6/6/2012 3:32:48 PM
In regards to Auriel, we don't really know the circumstances of her capture, only that she was. We don't know how many scores of demons attacked her. We do know from the Wrath video though that she does have some capable combat ability.Posted in: Lore & Storyline
6/2/2012 1:47:23 AM
Yeah, pretty much the above. Though, you could retcon them into mortal angels, like Tyael became.Posted in: Lore & Storyline
5/27/2012 9:25:19 AM
My real question is, now that Tyreal is mortal, what happens to Justice, or Wisdom, should he die?Posted in: Lore & Storyline
From what I can gather and speculate, before when he wou;ld "die" he would eventually reform and reemerge fromt he Crystal Arch. With the removal of his wings, he separated his spirit (for lack of a better descriptor) fromt he CA and made it so that if he dies now, he will not reform and reemerge, thus rendering him mortal.
It seems like a pretty big deal that Justice, and now Wisdom, may be lost to the Heavens should he die. Pretty big risks to take. Will there be a new aspect of Justice? Does this new aspect come when Tyrael dies, or did he start to form the moment Tyrael separated himself fromt eh CA? How did Tyrael become the aspect of Wisdom (and I mean more so beyond the fact that when you look at it, he wasn't very wise at all)? They make it pretty clear that the archangles are really physical representations of what they represent, and in some way affect that concepts ability to exist and be felt (particularly by other angels). So how then could could Tyrael completely change what he was? It would make sense if at the end of the game instead of staying mortal, he had to become re-attuned to the CA to join the Council again, only this time he attuned to Wisdom rather than Justice; but instead we're left with what is him ostensibly just deciding to be Wisdom.
I find the entire Tyrael plot line to be the worst plot line, and biggest flaw, in Diablo 3. It isn't conceptually that abysmal, but its delivery is downright awful. I really hope these gaps in logic and story are explained and fleshed out in coming expansions. Doesn't have to be much, just some dialogue threads.
5/27/2012 9:11:35 AM
The plot point of Adria marking the souls of the 7 great evils to the black soulstone was a bit ham-fisted. The plot points aren't really that bad, but it seems crucial ones are extremely poorly developed. WHat I find most disappointing about this is that with all the dialogue options you have with NPCs (which I loved, btw), they could have easily allowed for some explanations to some of the more rather muddy plot lines.Posted in: Lore & Storyline
5/23/2012 1:12:09 AM
He didn't become human, just mortal. Its [frustratingly] unexplained why he looks human (seriously, one dialogue thread is all that needed), but he wasn't human. He was simply a mortal angel. When people are refering to him as "one of us," it is far more likely that they just mean mortal.Posted in: Lore & Storyline
Were he actually Nephalem, it would have been clearly stated as such. In fact, he is still referred to as an angel several times and when you reach heaven Imperius referrers to YOU as nephalem, and separates Tyrael from these statements.
5/18/2012 1:01:27 PM
I thought the story was alright, but some part were really lacking.Posted in: Lore & Storyline
The Tyreal becoming a mortal archangel plotline was really weak and unnecessary IMO. It raises far too many questions. What does it mean for an archangel to be mortal? What happens when he dies; does Justice cease to exist? Will a "replacement" archangel be born from the arch? I think it would have been better for him to have been cast out, and then be restored by the end. While still on the subject, how can he just change his alignment from Justice to Wisdom? That seemed way out of left field and added even more to a confusing plot point.
I also was disappointed that the idea of heaven being really no better than Hell (in regards to human survival) wasn't elaborated on more. It was just a few scenes of Imperius being aggressive, but no more.
I really hope that the some of these points are expanded upon and explained in the expansion(s). I'll actually be extremely disappointed if its not.
Beyond those aspects, I think the story was fine. Nothing shocking, but still as good as I expected.
10/27/2011 11:36:27 PM
Heres a theory that I've been thinking of:Posted in: Lore & Storyline
What if the Black Soulstone is the Black Abyss?
Angels were born from the remnants of Anu (presumably the divided, diamond warrior version), so perhaps the black soulstone is the remnants of Tathamet. The Black Abyss is said to be where demons come from and where they go when they die. If the Black Abyss is where demons come from, perhaps it is the demonic equivalent (of sorts) to the Crystal Arch.
Thus, when all the Great Evils died, they went to The Black Abyss within the Black Soulstone; which now holds all their power.
Obviously there are a lot of leaps and guesses in this, and a few flaws (like the new creation story claiming that the Great Evils came from the heads of Tathamet, not The Black Abyss).
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