Hm, I can agree with that, Blizzard has really been lacking in the story telling aspect of their games for a while. But I mean, so far, I think that D3 is doing a much, much better job of it then they did in D2. In D2 you had to talk to everyone, and then gather all of that into some sort of a story, of course the cinematics between the acts were amazing, but I'm expecting something like them for D3, the Black soulstone video is probably one of them, or part of one, I'm really looking forward to it.
But I do agree, in terms of lore I really like the books, it's just too bad that so few are canon. I am working through the 3rd sin wars book at the moment, read two in the last two days so it's a pretty interesting story.
It is harder to analyze the deeper characters of the story. The three prime evils especially, however, now that I have read a few of the books, I'm realizing things that I really didn't get from just in game details. The personalities of the prime evils, as well as the other lesser evils, of the total 7, are greatly tied to their names. The Lord of Terror for instance, his actions speak very cose to this, and you can use this alone to deduce his thought process and the way he's likely to act. The same goes for all of them, it's the amount of detail that limits our ability to do so.
@Phrozen, totally, on my old WoW server there was a guild called Wheel of Time, but they were not very good so I never joined them lol. It's always fun though when you see other people with names from the story, it's always makes me smile.
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@Phrozen thanks, I love those books, all my characters in WoW are named after characters in WoT, and I'll probably keep that up in Diablo.
More on topic. He had a good point about Leoric mentioning the star, it would be expected that out of anyone Leoric, as the SK, would know best what it is that has truly fallen on the cathedral.
I agree that the psychology of a character is important in understanding their motives for things, and the reasons for them being there in the first place. We actually get a good amount of detail as to why he is now the SK, outside of what we already knew, the scene in the room where you pull his sword out of the ground, demonstrates this, and actually gives a bit of context to the enemies we are fighting, and his motives for being evil in death, besides the corruption he faced in life. Character development is essential in video games, almost more so then it is in books, because we get much more interaction with the characters of a video game. We fight with them or against them in some cases, and while a book may leave some things up to the imagination, in this specific case, we know a good deal about his history, and understanding that history is vital in understanding the current events. Ultimately though I think the SK is just a small player in all of this, and probably plays very little role in the story of D3, and serves more as to delay us just walking into the cathedral and down to the fallen star.
But this same sort of analyzing of characters and their motives, applies beyond this, and could be applied to the more vital characters in the story, such as Azmodean, Tyrael, and Diablo himself. But it's also not vital to do so to enjoy the story, even if it is more fun in my opinion, to each their own.
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To me, it all kind of made sense. I'm a writer by profession, and while it's a bit different writing books, I can understand the quick change in behavior. It was a necessity, as others have mentioned they couldn't go into a long drawn out conversation about it, and even when you talk to him about it after, he doesn't want to give up much more than he has, he's obviously upset, and unhappy about what happened, but knew it must be done. Personally I felt like I was the one that killed his wife, while he seemed to fight kind of half heartedly, not really going full force, but that could be a jaded view from playing that part of the beta so many times.
I had never thought of the crown, and why it would be needed to kill him. It's certainly an interesting question. And I can see us getting more detail. But it still makes sense. Traditionally ghosts are things that are holding onto this world, and items of personal value often can be a center for their energies. When you encoutner him before, he's in a more corpreal state, but when you put the crown on his head, he takes a physical form, instead of summoning other demons to do his bidding, I mean he could have struck down Cain all by himself but he chooses to use summons instead. So I think the crown is what was needed to defeat not only his body, but the part of his soul that was tethered to the world. But that's just logic attached to speculation, and I'm hoping that it's revealed more in the full game.
I found it very odd that the first real mini boss would say something like "You shall never defeat me." It seemed really cheesy, and not placed well. I mean think about it, we're obviously going to defeat him, he's the first damn boss. If Diablo, or one of the lesser demon lords said that, it's a little bit more believable that we could have a tough time defeating him, but my first thought when I heard that was, "Yeah right." And then smashed his face in (or rather shot him with darts til he died.)
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But I do agree, in terms of lore I really like the books, it's just too bad that so few are canon. I am working through the 3rd sin wars book at the moment, read two in the last two days so it's a pretty interesting story.
It is harder to analyze the deeper characters of the story. The three prime evils especially, however, now that I have read a few of the books, I'm realizing things that I really didn't get from just in game details. The personalities of the prime evils, as well as the other lesser evils, of the total 7, are greatly tied to their names. The Lord of Terror for instance, his actions speak very cose to this, and you can use this alone to deduce his thought process and the way he's likely to act. The same goes for all of them, it's the amount of detail that limits our ability to do so.
@Phrozen, totally, on my old WoW server there was a guild called Wheel of Time, but they were not very good so I never joined them lol. It's always fun though when you see other people with names from the story, it's always makes me smile.
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@Phrozen thanks, I love those books, all my characters in WoW are named after characters in WoT, and I'll probably keep that up in Diablo.
More on topic. He had a good point about Leoric mentioning the star, it would be expected that out of anyone Leoric, as the SK, would know best what it is that has truly fallen on the cathedral.
I agree that the psychology of a character is important in understanding their motives for things, and the reasons for them being there in the first place. We actually get a good amount of detail as to why he is now the SK, outside of what we already knew, the scene in the room where you pull his sword out of the ground, demonstrates this, and actually gives a bit of context to the enemies we are fighting, and his motives for being evil in death, besides the corruption he faced in life. Character development is essential in video games, almost more so then it is in books, because we get much more interaction with the characters of a video game. We fight with them or against them in some cases, and while a book may leave some things up to the imagination, in this specific case, we know a good deal about his history, and understanding that history is vital in understanding the current events. Ultimately though I think the SK is just a small player in all of this, and probably plays very little role in the story of D3, and serves more as to delay us just walking into the cathedral and down to the fallen star.
But this same sort of analyzing of characters and their motives, applies beyond this, and could be applied to the more vital characters in the story, such as Azmodean, Tyrael, and Diablo himself. But it's also not vital to do so to enjoy the story, even if it is more fun in my opinion, to each their own.
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I had never thought of the crown, and why it would be needed to kill him. It's certainly an interesting question. And I can see us getting more detail. But it still makes sense. Traditionally ghosts are things that are holding onto this world, and items of personal value often can be a center for their energies. When you encoutner him before, he's in a more corpreal state, but when you put the crown on his head, he takes a physical form, instead of summoning other demons to do his bidding, I mean he could have struck down Cain all by himself but he chooses to use summons instead. So I think the crown is what was needed to defeat not only his body, but the part of his soul that was tethered to the world. But that's just logic attached to speculation, and I'm hoping that it's revealed more in the full game.
I found it very odd that the first real mini boss would say something like "You shall never defeat me." It seemed really cheesy, and not placed well. I mean think about it, we're obviously going to defeat him, he's the first damn boss. If Diablo, or one of the lesser demon lords said that, it's a little bit more believable that we could have a tough time defeating him, but my first thought when I heard that was, "Yeah right." And then smashed his face in (or rather shot him with darts til he died.)
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