If you used abilities to abuse snapshot you got a buff.
So, I did want to confirm this ^.
I did some testing on the PTR (MP10 Nightmare Belial with tiny dps (around 1500))
Specfically i just started SW with no dps boosts and got a decent idea on SW damage, I then let SW drop, flashed blinding light and the dmg DID go up, BUT, as soon as BL fell off, so did the damage, so it's clear that the SW dmg is now fully dynamic to our active buffs.
May have not needed to be said, but I wanted to make it clear that snapshotting is completely dead.
Thats correct snapshot is dead ;). I am stating that if prior to this patch if you used snapshots without abusing with gearswap, you will receive an overall buff after the patch is live.
Snapshots dead, damage was buffed to compensate, we now have more free skill slots [for me probably only one mebbe more will have to see how it plays out]. Reflect damage should be less of a bitch if they don't start in reflect mode. Overall we got a buff.
While the loss of snapshotting may be a net negative result, it will really free up build options. You won't be forced to run with blinding flash or the heal anymore (though still a quite good skills)
Just remove temporary buffs from your skill repertoire like blind and stop using gearswap -> you can use Serenity or SSS in a TR build and still deal the same damage (if not more thanks to buffed TR itself). Only people seeing great decrease from this are those abusing the snapshot mechanic with really high attack speed via gear swap.
I think this needs clarification so I'll assist:
If you gear swapped to abuse snapshot you are fucked.
If you used abilities to abuse snapshot you got a buff.
(Just don't want someone to take your info out of context)
I honestly did not think they would fix the problem this way and remove the snapshot concept. What I would have preferred them to do is to prevent any gear swapping aside from weapons. (That gear has to be 'locked' by the player or you literally can't use abilities, exception being weapons). Removing snapshot as a concept simply dumbs the game down. The gear swap was the issue not the intricacy of snapshotting.
At least I did not steer any of you in the wrong direction and I made it very clear that I do not advocate gear swapping.
After the contest results are posted, I will update the main post guide accordingly. This update will largely involve removing snapshot information and adding things like Blazing light.
We still really did not get nerfed at all and I would say overall it is a buff even with snapshot removal.
Spec got a few buffs, nothing changes about how you play it in 1.0.7.
Rush on.
Looking at those "notes" I'm not sure if it'll be a buff actually, as they want to get rid of snapshotting. And with them buffing SW slightly, I'm fairly sure they'll want to get rid of it completely and not just the gear swapping.
Where was the blue post talking about getting rid of snapshotting.
Odds are they will go with the one posted below mine due to quantity/volume. However I feel mine is geared more towards quality being to the point, and unique, hopefully note is taken about that. But we will see, it was fun to make either way and had to be made based on the positive feedback here.
New picture for the guide's title. I'll likely be replacing this original post with my contest submission after the editing and additional information is complete.
You can read the new guide as it is edited in the contest thread, but as it is a contest thread for submission only...
Just to keep you guys in the loop, I have reformatted this guide, edited it, and toned down the language/sarcasm to appeal to a broader audience as I have submitted it in the contest.
I just didn't want you to worry that I lost my sense of humor, love of vulgarity, or vindictive nature after you've read it. I will be focusing on maintaining that guide until the end of the contest.
For me, Fire Storm works better, cyclone depends on chances too much, I have over 50% crit chance and yet it doesn't pop all the time. However when they pop, it's really good, can just leave them and you know for sure the mobs behind will be dead. I would say in average, both are very similar, but one and BIG advantage of fire storm is the animation, it's way cooler and fun compare to cyclone. And TR is all about having fun so Firestorm for me
Thanks for stopping by Invis. I actually got a lot of my information from watching your stream.
Free lesson in game mechanics on that one. Not a lot of people know that. So for the gear swapping aforementioned the Won Khim Lao as an example will make your physical attacks and by proxy Tempest Rush deal Lightning damage. Which will be increased by the special ability of the Won Khim Lao which states Lightning Skills Deal x% more damage [not to be confused with Add % to Lightning Damage]
I am a bit skeptic about this. Any confirmation or testing done?
There are multiple concepts in that excerpt. What is your actual question [as your current is incredibly vague]?
Look at my monk dynas#2970
I had to swap gloves for non ias ones + pick up radius. I have 150k dps unbuffed and I do alkaizer run in 9-10min. It is not perma tempest rush because sometimes i have to stop and hit 3-4 times to get my spirit back but it is usually when my SSS doesnt kill an alite pack so anyway i'm forced to stop TR. I'm thinking of recording video but i still think someone will be faster than me.
BTW I don't like soj because it's expensive and i lack of dps while using it and then i have to turn around to kill trash more often.
Stone of Jordan alleviates all of your issues, damage and spirit regen. Whether you enjoy the item or not it just fits. Get one even without the Sweeping Winds bonus if you are concerned about gold. Your SSS is probably not killing the elite pack because you don't have 20+ % bonus to elites.
I'm trying this out (and btw getting 4.75 s/regen is hard while keeping up dps), but I'm noticing I'm having to run back and forth in mobs. I'm curious what damage level do you need to do a one pass on most mobs for this to really be fast?
Ill need your bnet profile to actually help you. You wont be able to just run through fat mobs once, but most things should be dead in a pass or wiggling pass. You just have to adjust things as you understand the build more. As an example I deviated from the shell build I gave as I felt that Firestorm was giving me faster runs than having too much run speed and having to pass multiple times.
PS: I have cleaned up the guide a bit and rearranged a few things due to the positive response. I will add a section expending on what other item bonuses interact with the damage snapshot for those that wish to gear swap, but it is no where near the top of my priority list at the moment.
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Thats correct snapshot is dead ;). I am stating that if prior to this patch if you used snapshots without abusing with gearswap, you will receive an overall buff after the patch is live.
Snapshots dead, damage was buffed to compensate, we now have more free skill slots [for me probably only one mebbe more will have to see how it plays out]. Reflect damage should be less of a bitch if they don't start in reflect mode. Overall we got a buff.
PS: Thanks for the answer on amulet pricing
I was gauging pricing on amulets, how much was yours for reference?
I think this needs clarification so I'll assist:
If you gear swapped to abuse snapshot you are fucked.
If you used abilities to abuse snapshot you got a buff.
(Just don't want someone to take your info out of context)
At least I did not steer any of you in the wrong direction and I made it very clear that I do not advocate gear swapping.
After the contest results are posted, I will update the main post guide accordingly. This update will largely involve removing snapshot information and adding things like Blazing light.
We still really did not get nerfed at all and I would say overall it is a buff even with snapshot removal.
Where was the blue post talking about getting rid of snapshotting.
Rush on.
Yea my entry is listed here: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/81155-monk-helpful-hints-of-sanctuary-guide-contest/#entry1099655
Odds are they will go with the one posted below mine due to quantity/volume. However I feel mine is geared more towards quality being to the point, and unique, hopefully note is taken about that. But we will see, it was fun to make either way and had to be made based on the positive feedback here.
Thanks Johnny, thats actually in the new version of the guide, but I can't update this thread until after the contest
You can read the new guide as it is edited in the contest thread, but as it is a contest thread for submission only...
DO NOT REPLY ON THAT THREAD!!!
What a cute little trollllll, here are some Corn Flakes.
I just didn't want you to worry that I lost my sense of humor, love of vulgarity, or vindictive nature after you've read it. I will be focusing on maintaining that guide until the end of the contest.
Thanks for stopping by Invis. I actually got a lot of my information from watching your stream.
There are multiple concepts in that excerpt. What is your actual question [as your current is incredibly vague]?
Stone of Jordan alleviates all of your issues, damage and spirit regen. Whether you enjoy the item or not it just fits. Get one even without the Sweeping Winds bonus if you are concerned about gold. Your SSS is probably not killing the elite pack because you don't have 20+ % bonus to elites.
Ill need your bnet profile to actually help you. You wont be able to just run through fat mobs once, but most things should be dead in a pass or wiggling pass. You just have to adjust things as you understand the build more. As an example I deviated from the shell build I gave as I felt that Firestorm was giving me faster runs than having too much run speed and having to pass multiple times.
PS: I have cleaned up the guide a bit and rearranged a few things due to the positive response. I will add a section expending on what other item bonuses interact with the damage snapshot for those that wish to gear swap, but it is no where near the top of my priority list at the moment.