i hope so too dude. but russia is giving weapons to iran.
the US is not that bad yet, and maybe we can get rid of a lot of the political strife but it sure feels to me, living here and all, that i will be involved in a future civil war here on my soil sometime in the future.
well i know that the left are running this country to the ground. at least the ones here. a good example is a girl at my work. we used to talk politics but she couldnt handle it so i stopped. she hates me now, and i hate her. i dont hate her for her views, but for being so hateful towards me yet advocating peace and love. its total hypocracy.
on the prisoner topic i think that they should all be electricuted, the murderers and rapists and child abusers. instead we keep them in prisons and release them later on. they are scum, they are a disease. when they attack others they spread it. children who have been abused are more likely to abuse later on. what i meant with mercy is that instead of putting them out of their misery we keep them alive with the rest of the scum. what is there to live for?? what do you have to look forward to?? instead of doing this lets do whats best for society as well as for them. electricution or the syringe.
i am sorry if i put you in with the rest of the wacky left, but all i know is extreme left. people actually justify a man rigging themselves up and attacking populated areas. can you believe that?? i dont care how you justify it, it is wrong and i for one will stand up against it. its time for the rest of us that do care about freedom and justice to stand against the growing evil in the middle east.
WW3 is looming i think. russia, china, and iran are big partners. iran is set on killing israeli's, russia and china will back them up. will we keep our promise to israel?? i just dont know anymore. i think that the representatives we choose should grow some balls and do their jobs. we hire them to fix our problems here and in the world. society also needs to stop accepting low standards and raise itself up. we must all start to contribute to make the best of everything.
unfortunately i am at a point, be it because im too young to think longer, that the US will have a civil war in my lifetime. it will be between the left and the right. large government against limited. hopefully, in my opinion, the right will win. i dont believe in having the government taking care of me. i believe that you should take your life in your hands and make the best with it.
god im tired. im pretty much forcing myself to stay awake.
michael moore does what he thinks is best. he believes something so strongly that he is willing to tell everyone. but wackos do the same too. my problem is when he talks bad about the country he gets rich off of. of course you cant insult america, but you can say that africa is what it is because america is taking advantage of the mining industries. he works the sympathies of people and makes them angry against america, even those in the US.
dont get me wrong, we arent perfect. there will never be perfect. perfect is something to strive for though. we dont claim to be perfect. even china has a better education system than we do.
but there is a reason america is so great. there is a reason why millions upon millions have traveled here, have come to live here. there is a reason why people come from other countries and have such pride, such honor in merely saying "i live in america". its the american dream. people come here for a better future. to feed their families. to live better. to escape oppression.
this is the land of the free, home of the brave. land of opportunity. name one country that would not be impacted if we broke off trade with them.
now, take all that into consideration, all that we have done for the world starting with developing electricity. we have given so much already, we have been so giving and generous. then comes along a fat guy with a stupid cap and tells me, though not directly, that im evil for living here. according to him i live in a country run by corrupt officials, am a fat slob, and am stuck up. WTF?? how can he say that?? much more to other countries?? he is the kind of people that say that bush planned the whole thing. a part of the people who say that a plane never crashed into the pentagon. those who say the hole in pennsylvania was too small for a plane along with there not being any parts left.
this is why i hate the left. yes i said HATE. im sorry if you agree with them, but they are a bunch of liars. they take guns from people to make things safer, when the maliscious can easily get their hands on guns anyways.
they say "yes" here and there, "no" here and there, as long as they get the votes.
prisoners are not being executed anymore. instead they are forced to live the rest of their terrible lives in a small cell, poor food, and surrounded by a bunch of other criminals in the name of mercy.
they let child abusers out and about after a slap on the wrist. i dont know about you, but people who rape 3-14 year old kids pretty much give up their right to live. no child should go through that. yet they do. child abusers are like rabid dogs. you can never really fix them, they will always want to. there are exceptions, but in my eye i would rather kill 10 child abusers than to let them all leave in hope they will get better.
these are only some reasons. the child abuser thing is what infuriates me the most. liberals are on the side of child rapists?? they are on the side of criminals, killers?? i dont know about you, but i would rather move to a remote island alone than to live with people like these. they gamble with the safety of families, with the security of my future families. let them gamble with their own families. leave mine out of it.
this is why i have such a problem with the left. it is much deeper than michael moore, though he is a figure i would enjoy taking my frustrations out on by grabbing my sword and his head rolling on the floor seconds later.
*breathes deeply* ok another clarification. this is so tiring. i hate getting emotions out like that, it really makes for a bad environment.
i read something on the net earlier, it went something like this:
war has never solved anything except for: communism, nazism, slavery, and injustice.
i truly believe in this. i dont like war, but if it means that my kids can grow up free even without their dad, hey sign me up. democracy and freedom is a right to people i think. millions of americans have died to secure our right to them, i say we honor them. until the world is ridded of evil, we must defend our countries and fight it so that the fight doesnt come here. evil will never end, so we must always fight.
the founders of the greatest country ever on the face of the earth believed that people had a right to freedoms, to pursue happiness and all that fun stuff. we fought for our freedom from britain, against oppression and injustice. according to your reasoning america has always been evil. we took what was british right?? they had a right to hold us and treat us as bad as they wanted.
this is the reasoning you are applying to the middle east. that there are already evil governments there and to leave them alone. dont the people there deserve freedom?? being denied it for all this time?? i say that if you still dont agree to at least give it a shot. everything else gets a chance everywhere, why dont we give a chance to democracy?? lets be fair.
the reason we dont pull out of iraq yet is because it isnt stable. soldiers have died and we have spent money there. making sure its stable and can keep its own against attackers, whether they be terrorists or countries, is a smart idea dont you think?? you build a wall, but arent quite sure it will stay secure yet because of the cement. what do you do?? you keep the supports on. when the wall is ready, then you remove the supports. if we left tommorrow there would be a vacuum of power. that vacuum must be filled by the iraq citizens. the power they hold must be bigger and stronger than any other power that wishes to take over.
*breathes deeply* well i think that clarify's my reasoning in iraq a bit. it could use some touching up but i think that works well. now for the next....
well, i guess i did a bad job getting my points accross lol.
first of all
i believe he truly loves the country cause he mentions and makes public stuff that hurt and are really important, even though they make him less popular. Anyone that would say "oh, what a great country, everything's perfect etc etc" would become way more popular and thats a fact too.
as for the things that spoil the country...
o boy. isnt that what bush is doing?? doing things that we dont really like while risking popularity?? only thing is that he at least makes sense. on to the next one....
I'm not sure u even know anything about communism. Its ideas are based on equality. Romantic idea but barely applicable in any part of the world these days if u ask me. Its about the closest to the true Democracy as it can be (not the way the USSR did it, anyways that was more like a hidden dictatorship).
hmm, i know that communists dont like capitalism. its a "dream" as lennon said. just that though, a dream. there can never be a society where everyone shares and does things for others with the goodness of their hearts. dont call it a true democracy, because those who advocated communism stood against democracy. there has never been a communistic country, only those that have tried to accomplish it. it is an idea that crazy power hungry people try when a country is starving, like in the USSR. there was no government and here comes a communist. "hey," he says, "i can solve this country!! only catch is that you have to give me all the power for a bit." so he gets granted the power and he makes sure he keeps it to his death.
one more thing about this, and the left wing political leaders or influencial people, aka michael moore, are rich out of their minds. why dont they do something good with it?? talking doesnt do any good, action is what is needed.
even if u dont push them out of society, there are most likely many that do. I dont give a shit and no gay ever bothered me.
i dont mind gays. i have a couple of gay friends. the problem arises when they want everyone in the world to know they are gay. i dont go around with signs to show how heterosexual i am, i just carry on with my life. we dont ask, they dont tell. same with straight folk. we dont have to say we are straight or what lifestyle we kead. just do what you do. thats it.
aint that some sort of racism?
next part i'll split to explain better:
actually its sexism. according to people i talk with. i think that women should do the role intended for them by nature. to care for children. im not a macho man, and i dont expect a woman to jump at my every command but it is true that men are meant, by nature, to go hunt and bring the food home. women can, but they are to be treasured. they are the most important pieces to humanity, for without them we cant reproduce. it is in the man's contract to defend her and sheild her.
there are things we can do that they cant and vice-versa. lets keep to those roles.
Aint that bit natural? Its only advertised that men that are getting laid with many women (as many as possible) and make alot money are the ones really successfull. Ofc i dont agree but if thats what people are looking for i'll let them do it. Its part of the freedom every country is supposed to offer, right?
its true they can be like that. but if you wish to claim higher moral ground, or if you wish to make society better, i think you should not give in to animalistic insticts. we are not animals, but if you wish to act like one, its your right.
I dont get why it should be relevant.
1st u dont have to be christian, its supposed to be constitutional to choose any religion you want.
2nd even if u are Church shouldnt limit you in any possible way. Its supposed to free your spirit, not restrict you in any way i think.
its true that its something you wish to do. it is free spirit. but there is a code by which religions go by. when people go around saying they're this or that but do not follow the code, do they deserve that title?? its like the marines. they are trained and drilled and toned into disciplined out of their own free will. but if i go around saying im a marine it is unfair to the marine who earned it.
does this mean u dont get laid till after marriage?
Well, we dont live on the 15th century, i think. Sex is a very important part of marriage (at least for about the first 30-40 years :P) and people should make sure they're compatible in that before they get married, i think. But again anyone should be allowed to choose what he does and not "have" to do it.
i know its not the 15th century. sex is a very important part of marriage. but, people should be married before they have sex. not because they "have" to. but because it makes for a better family, better everything. sex is rampant throughout the world. when irresponsible loser men decide they dont want to have a kid, they walk out. then women are left alone to take care of the kid. marriage makes couples think hard about what they want. it again, makes for a better society.
im tired so ill finish the rest tommorrow lol. thanks again for a good conversation. i think we have very similar opinions but somehow on the other side of the spectrum. to add to your point about yelling and attacking people, it actually makes people defensive, and in so makes him more stubborn. good conversation like this lets everyone see some good opinions without having to deal with yelling and expressions of anger in more violent ways.
moore's hate towards this country doesnt come accross in his videos. they cant. if they do no one will buy or see it. outside the videos he does these things though. i am a true conservative and i refuse that you feel you know more about my country and its evils when i live here. if there are problems in this country they are:
Socialism as well as its advocates (closet communists)
Too many people with no balls. if we are going to say something, stick to it.
Too many gays marching my streets and demanding my attention, only to tell me to treat them the same as i treat other people.
Too many women trying to become men,
Too many men obsessed with getting laid. if you declare yourself some sort of christian, stick to it. im not religious and even im waiting for marriage.
Too many kids not taught to respect their elders. it seems everytime i here about university graduations i hear about graduates disrespecting the republican who attends.
Too many jerks trying to to run our country through the television. you never see republicans on there, just bleeding heart liberals. we never hear about the good that has come from the middle east, and the good that is still coming.
dude i respect you and your opinion. i am also grateful that we can have an intellectual conversation without insults or stupid remarks from other people. an honest debate is what this is and it is not often that i have these. mostly because people on your side are screaming over me, and the girls are near wacking me accross the face.
more than just Australia would love anyone that killed Bush, dude ^^All of Middle-East and even half the US would love that one.
About Carloseus... watch Fahrenheit 9/11. If you still say what you said then i dare say ur not human (in the spiritual way at least). And go check the really poor neighborhoods before talking about poverty. And most black people have to join the army to get funds for their college. Spare us with that too.
o man. you had enough credit when you started to make a point but cmon!! you guys first say we should be considerate of humanity, we dont want war, suffering, death. yet now you say you would shank George Bush!! Oh Sweet Irony!!
you say i should watch Farenheit 9-11. i did. i ran to the bathroom and barfed like i never will again. the lies!! watch Farenhype 9-11. its a small film but you should find it. the reason why you've never heard about it is because the media doesnt like it. my second point on this video is that it is made by a fatass who himself is filthy rich. he lives here, eats here, and makes his money here. then he goes over to Europe and tells them that Americans are uneducated overweight idiots. HIM!!!! of all the people he depicts that the most!! if he cares so much about the world why doesnt he give all that money of his away to other countries who do need it?? you know why?? because he wants to stuff himself with mc donalds for the rest of his life!!
third of all, i come from the "poor neighborhood". i am hispanic, my parents mexican. i lived in Huron, California. go down there someday and you'll see how ghetto it is. 14-45 year old hookers walking the street by nightfall, people trying to get by with working in the fields, most illegal. my parents one day decided they wanted out. we were up to our eyeballs with debt. we moved to Riverdale, California and there it was better. we made just enough money with his job to move to Avondale, Arizona. he was a trucker. here he quit his job after a year of it and is now a car salesman. trust me i know poverty. when i was smaller my grandpa would bring us food and clothes because we were hungry and my dad couldnt afford it.
thats a bit of my basic history. back to our topic: people around us were on drugs, they were alcoholics. yes there were some good folk but most were on welfare if they could apply for it. an aunt of mine is on welfare. she works as a waitress and is a hooker on the side, makes more than enough money. she still gets welfare. she is the example of people i lived around. the kids were just as bad. the stood in line at the cafeteria for free food on government aid while they wore 100 dollar shoes. dont tell me to not be so drastic. because in a country of free opportunity like mine you can become what you want to be.
sounds to me like you listen and give too much credit to people like jesse jackson, the black rights leader. he spends more time trying to alienate blacks then telling everyone to just treat them normally. take this piece of history to mind:
"And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." ---Martin Luther King Jr.
where his children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. that is the most powerful line. do not treat people differently because of what they look like, but by their actions. people who choose to stay poor dont have good character. what they do though, some do join the military to go to college as you said. millions more go to a life of crime, "gangsta's". why should i help someone who will one day want to put a gun in my face and tell me to give him his money??
the answer to this question is simple. no its not right. but countries have done so for thousands of years. doesnt mean we do it. about your comment about rich getting richer and poor getting poorer, that is absolute bullcrap. especially here in the US. the poverty level is now what middle class was before. middle class now have computers, cable, and many other luxuries. the rich are the ones getting screwed. they bring jobs to the country, help the economy, and how are they thanked?? we tax the crap out of them. they give more to taxes than middle and poorer class combined.
no the problem is not in the rich having an advantage and being in a faction against us all for money. its in the poor class not wanting to get out of their situation. how much talent is lost to the hype to be "gansta"?? ive known many a black person of my age that had more capacity, raw talent for things. instead of using it they choose to wear panty-hose's on their heads and dress in pants 50 times their size.
another problem is that every one wants to have the best of everything. thats understandable. i do too. however you see kids walking around in $150 shoes, too much silver and gold on their ears and around their necks, and still getting government aid for their food at school. WTF???!!!!!! why should i pay for their stupidities??
im sorry dude but i have a big problem with the socialistic style of government. nothing gets done. instead we throw money at things. start thinking conservatively and you take away those luxuries the "poor" have. it is not my responsibility to take care of an entire family just because they choose to not work and spend it on drugs and booze instead. much less the entire "poor" population of the US or any country for that matter.
lol. the kill them all is not a reference to everyone around you. it means everyone that is your enemy. if you remember right then you would remember we have many allies. people blowing themselves up, beheading captives in camera, oppressing women, promoting evil, hating good (democracy) is not a valid argument dude. i
believe that even sweden also benefits from our business yes?? we bring capitalism where we go and so far its been working. look at china. they are little by little unshackling themselves of communism and will gradually become a democracy. in the middle east though we dont have that time nor are we on the other side of the table from a reasonable leader. these people in iran are trying to make a nuclear weapon which spells devastation to israel and a problem to us all, not just the USA.
lol. im glad you are so grateful. we give you food, ways to make money, and you just call us criminals. fine. i accept that. you were born with freedom, you have always had the business of the united states. you are on the exact opposite side of the "oppressed countries" we target. you dont and probably will never know what it feels like to have that taken from you. they have never been given it.
in truth, we are there for money. we abolish the oppressive government there and establish better ones like ours there. then the soldiers we have lost will be honored for freeing countries, and we will get returns on our investment there. give a region the ways to make money and they will make it. trade with them and doing so will get you both money.
money isnt everything, i know. its family, love, freindships that are. but also, you are in a lot better position to be happy if you have money. for example:
(A) you have a wife/husband, three excellent kids, great friends, but you dont make so much money. because of this you must spend more time at work and your wife as well. in this way you dont have time to celebrate this time with those you love.
(B) you have a wife/husband, three excellent kids, great friends, and you make a good paycheck every month. because of this you have more time to play, have fun, and raise your kids. your wife is happy, your friends come over every so often and you all laugh in the backyard while the kids play and you celebrate some holiday. you have more than enough time to enjoy the good things in life with more money.
your pocket is the extent of your happiness.
i put in the scenario for those of you that would say that money is evil and that the US is evil for pursuing it.
thanks fudlow. you at least have some sense. i shower whatever light is in me onto you. you are from now on my left hand man. (remember that im left handed)
the US is not that bad yet, and maybe we can get rid of a lot of the political strife but it sure feels to me, living here and all, that i will be involved in a future civil war here on my soil sometime in the future.
on the prisoner topic i think that they should all be electricuted, the murderers and rapists and child abusers. instead we keep them in prisons and release them later on. they are scum, they are a disease. when they attack others they spread it. children who have been abused are more likely to abuse later on. what i meant with mercy is that instead of putting them out of their misery we keep them alive with the rest of the scum. what is there to live for?? what do you have to look forward to?? instead of doing this lets do whats best for society as well as for them. electricution or the syringe.
i am sorry if i put you in with the rest of the wacky left, but all i know is extreme left. people actually justify a man rigging themselves up and attacking populated areas. can you believe that?? i dont care how you justify it, it is wrong and i for one will stand up against it. its time for the rest of us that do care about freedom and justice to stand against the growing evil in the middle east.
WW3 is looming i think. russia, china, and iran are big partners. iran is set on killing israeli's, russia and china will back them up. will we keep our promise to israel?? i just dont know anymore. i think that the representatives we choose should grow some balls and do their jobs. we hire them to fix our problems here and in the world. society also needs to stop accepting low standards and raise itself up. we must all start to contribute to make the best of everything.
unfortunately i am at a point, be it because im too young to think longer, that the US will have a civil war in my lifetime. it will be between the left and the right. large government against limited. hopefully, in my opinion, the right will win. i dont believe in having the government taking care of me. i believe that you should take your life in your hands and make the best with it.
god im tired. im pretty much forcing myself to stay awake.
dont get me wrong, we arent perfect. there will never be perfect. perfect is something to strive for though. we dont claim to be perfect. even china has a better education system than we do.
but there is a reason america is so great. there is a reason why millions upon millions have traveled here, have come to live here. there is a reason why people come from other countries and have such pride, such honor in merely saying "i live in america". its the american dream. people come here for a better future. to feed their families. to live better. to escape oppression.
this is the land of the free, home of the brave. land of opportunity. name one country that would not be impacted if we broke off trade with them.
now, take all that into consideration, all that we have done for the world starting with developing electricity. we have given so much already, we have been so giving and generous. then comes along a fat guy with a stupid cap and tells me, though not directly, that im evil for living here. according to him i live in a country run by corrupt officials, am a fat slob, and am stuck up. WTF?? how can he say that?? much more to other countries?? he is the kind of people that say that bush planned the whole thing. a part of the people who say that a plane never crashed into the pentagon. those who say the hole in pennsylvania was too small for a plane along with there not being any parts left.
this is why i hate the left. yes i said HATE. im sorry if you agree with them, but they are a bunch of liars. they take guns from people to make things safer, when the maliscious can easily get their hands on guns anyways.
they say "yes" here and there, "no" here and there, as long as they get the votes.
prisoners are not being executed anymore. instead they are forced to live the rest of their terrible lives in a small cell, poor food, and surrounded by a bunch of other criminals in the name of mercy.
they let child abusers out and about after a slap on the wrist. i dont know about you, but people who rape 3-14 year old kids pretty much give up their right to live. no child should go through that. yet they do. child abusers are like rabid dogs. you can never really fix them, they will always want to. there are exceptions, but in my eye i would rather kill 10 child abusers than to let them all leave in hope they will get better.
these are only some reasons. the child abuser thing is what infuriates me the most. liberals are on the side of child rapists?? they are on the side of criminals, killers?? i dont know about you, but i would rather move to a remote island alone than to live with people like these. they gamble with the safety of families, with the security of my future families. let them gamble with their own families. leave mine out of it.
this is why i have such a problem with the left. it is much deeper than michael moore, though he is a figure i would enjoy taking my frustrations out on by grabbing my sword and his head rolling on the floor seconds later.
*breathes deeply* ok another clarification. this is so tiring. i hate getting emotions out like that, it really makes for a bad environment.
i read something on the net earlier, it went something like this:
war has never solved anything except for: communism, nazism, slavery, and injustice.
i truly believe in this. i dont like war, but if it means that my kids can grow up free even without their dad, hey sign me up. democracy and freedom is a right to people i think. millions of americans have died to secure our right to them, i say we honor them. until the world is ridded of evil, we must defend our countries and fight it so that the fight doesnt come here. evil will never end, so we must always fight.
the founders of the greatest country ever on the face of the earth believed that people had a right to freedoms, to pursue happiness and all that fun stuff. we fought for our freedom from britain, against oppression and injustice. according to your reasoning america has always been evil. we took what was british right?? they had a right to hold us and treat us as bad as they wanted.
this is the reasoning you are applying to the middle east. that there are already evil governments there and to leave them alone. dont the people there deserve freedom?? being denied it for all this time?? i say that if you still dont agree to at least give it a shot. everything else gets a chance everywhere, why dont we give a chance to democracy?? lets be fair.
the reason we dont pull out of iraq yet is because it isnt stable. soldiers have died and we have spent money there. making sure its stable and can keep its own against attackers, whether they be terrorists or countries, is a smart idea dont you think?? you build a wall, but arent quite sure it will stay secure yet because of the cement. what do you do?? you keep the supports on. when the wall is ready, then you remove the supports. if we left tommorrow there would be a vacuum of power. that vacuum must be filled by the iraq citizens. the power they hold must be bigger and stronger than any other power that wishes to take over.
*breathes deeply* well i think that clarify's my reasoning in iraq a bit. it could use some touching up but i think that works well. now for the next....
first of all
o boy. isnt that what bush is doing?? doing things that we dont really like while risking popularity?? only thing is that he at least makes sense. on to the next one....
hmm, i know that communists dont like capitalism. its a "dream" as lennon said. just that though, a dream. there can never be a society where everyone shares and does things for others with the goodness of their hearts. dont call it a true democracy, because those who advocated communism stood against democracy. there has never been a communistic country, only those that have tried to accomplish it. it is an idea that crazy power hungry people try when a country is starving, like in the USSR. there was no government and here comes a communist. "hey," he says, "i can solve this country!! only catch is that you have to give me all the power for a bit." so he gets granted the power and he makes sure he keeps it to his death.
one more thing about this, and the left wing political leaders or influencial people, aka michael moore, are rich out of their minds. why dont they do something good with it?? talking doesnt do any good, action is what is needed.
i dont mind gays. i have a couple of gay friends. the problem arises when they want everyone in the world to know they are gay. i dont go around with signs to show how heterosexual i am, i just carry on with my life. we dont ask, they dont tell. same with straight folk. we dont have to say we are straight or what lifestyle we kead. just do what you do. thats it.
actually its sexism. according to people i talk with. i think that women should do the role intended for them by nature. to care for children. im not a macho man, and i dont expect a woman to jump at my every command but it is true that men are meant, by nature, to go hunt and bring the food home. women can, but they are to be treasured. they are the most important pieces to humanity, for without them we cant reproduce. it is in the man's contract to defend her and sheild her.
there are things we can do that they cant and vice-versa. lets keep to those roles.
its true they can be like that. but if you wish to claim higher moral ground, or if you wish to make society better, i think you should not give in to animalistic insticts. we are not animals, but if you wish to act like one, its your right.
its true that its something you wish to do. it is free spirit. but there is a code by which religions go by. when people go around saying they're this or that but do not follow the code, do they deserve that title?? its like the marines. they are trained and drilled and toned into disciplined out of their own free will. but if i go around saying im a marine it is unfair to the marine who earned it.
i know its not the 15th century. sex is a very important part of marriage. but, people should be married before they have sex. not because they "have" to. but because it makes for a better family, better everything. sex is rampant throughout the world. when irresponsible loser men decide they dont want to have a kid, they walk out. then women are left alone to take care of the kid. marriage makes couples think hard about what they want. it again, makes for a better society.
im tired so ill finish the rest tommorrow lol. thanks again for a good conversation. i think we have very similar opinions but somehow on the other side of the spectrum. to add to your point about yelling and attacking people, it actually makes people defensive, and in so makes him more stubborn. good conversation like this lets everyone see some good opinions without having to deal with yelling and expressions of anger in more violent ways.
Socialism as well as its advocates (closet communists)
Too many people with no balls. if we are going to say something, stick to it.
Too many gays marching my streets and demanding my attention, only to tell me to treat them the same as i treat other people.
Too many women trying to become men,
Too many men obsessed with getting laid. if you declare yourself some sort of christian, stick to it. im not religious and even im waiting for marriage.
Too many kids not taught to respect their elders. it seems everytime i here about university graduations i hear about graduates disrespecting the republican who attends.
Too many jerks trying to to run our country through the television. you never see republicans on there, just bleeding heart liberals. we never hear about the good that has come from the middle east, and the good that is still coming.
dude i respect you and your opinion. i am also grateful that we can have an intellectual conversation without insults or stupid remarks from other people. an honest debate is what this is and it is not often that i have these. mostly because people on your side are screaming over me, and the girls are near wacking me accross the face.
o man. you had enough credit when you started to make a point but cmon!! you guys first say we should be considerate of humanity, we dont want war, suffering, death. yet now you say you would shank George Bush!! Oh Sweet Irony!!
you say i should watch Farenheit 9-11. i did. i ran to the bathroom and barfed like i never will again. the lies!! watch Farenhype 9-11. its a small film but you should find it. the reason why you've never heard about it is because the media doesnt like it. my second point on this video is that it is made by a fatass who himself is filthy rich. he lives here, eats here, and makes his money here. then he goes over to Europe and tells them that Americans are uneducated overweight idiots. HIM!!!! of all the people he depicts that the most!! if he cares so much about the world why doesnt he give all that money of his away to other countries who do need it?? you know why?? because he wants to stuff himself with mc donalds for the rest of his life!!
third of all, i come from the "poor neighborhood". i am hispanic, my parents mexican. i lived in Huron, California. go down there someday and you'll see how ghetto it is. 14-45 year old hookers walking the street by nightfall, people trying to get by with working in the fields, most illegal. my parents one day decided they wanted out. we were up to our eyeballs with debt. we moved to Riverdale, California and there it was better. we made just enough money with his job to move to Avondale, Arizona. he was a trucker. here he quit his job after a year of it and is now a car salesman. trust me i know poverty. when i was smaller my grandpa would bring us food and clothes because we were hungry and my dad couldnt afford it.
thats a bit of my basic history. back to our topic: people around us were on drugs, they were alcoholics. yes there were some good folk but most were on welfare if they could apply for it. an aunt of mine is on welfare. she works as a waitress and is a hooker on the side, makes more than enough money. she still gets welfare. she is the example of people i lived around. the kids were just as bad. the stood in line at the cafeteria for free food on government aid while they wore 100 dollar shoes. dont tell me to not be so drastic. because in a country of free opportunity like mine you can become what you want to be.
sounds to me like you listen and give too much credit to people like jesse jackson, the black rights leader. he spends more time trying to alienate blacks then telling everyone to just treat them normally. take this piece of history to mind:
"And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
where his children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. that is the most powerful line. do not treat people differently because of what they look like, but by their actions. people who choose to stay poor dont have good character. what they do though, some do join the military to go to college as you said. millions more go to a life of crime, "gangsta's". why should i help someone who will one day want to put a gun in my face and tell me to give him his money??
try to top that.
no the problem is not in the rich having an advantage and being in a faction against us all for money. its in the poor class not wanting to get out of their situation. how much talent is lost to the hype to be "gansta"?? ive known many a black person of my age that had more capacity, raw talent for things. instead of using it they choose to wear panty-hose's on their heads and dress in pants 50 times their size.
another problem is that every one wants to have the best of everything. thats understandable. i do too. however you see kids walking around in $150 shoes, too much silver and gold on their ears and around their necks, and still getting government aid for their food at school. WTF???!!!!!! why should i pay for their stupidities??
im sorry dude but i have a big problem with the socialistic style of government. nothing gets done. instead we throw money at things. start thinking conservatively and you take away those luxuries the "poor" have. it is not my responsibility to take care of an entire family just because they choose to not work and spend it on drugs and booze instead. much less the entire "poor" population of the US or any country for that matter.
believe that even sweden also benefits from our business yes?? we bring capitalism where we go and so far its been working. look at china. they are little by little unshackling themselves of communism and will gradually become a democracy. in the middle east though we dont have that time nor are we on the other side of the table from a reasonable leader. these people in iran are trying to make a nuclear weapon which spells devastation to israel and a problem to us all, not just the USA.
lol. im glad you are so grateful. we give you food, ways to make money, and you just call us criminals. fine. i accept that. you were born with freedom, you have always had the business of the united states. you are on the exact opposite side of the "oppressed countries" we target. you dont and probably will never know what it feels like to have that taken from you. they have never been given it.
in truth, we are there for money. we abolish the oppressive government there and establish better ones like ours there. then the soldiers we have lost will be honored for freeing countries, and we will get returns on our investment there. give a region the ways to make money and they will make it. trade with them and doing so will get you both money.
money isnt everything, i know. its family, love, freindships that are. but also, you are in a lot better position to be happy if you have money. for example:
(A) you have a wife/husband, three excellent kids, great friends, but you dont make so much money. because of this you must spend more time at work and your wife as well. in this way you dont have time to celebrate this time with those you love.
(B) you have a wife/husband, three excellent kids, great friends, and you make a good paycheck every month. because of this you have more time to play, have fun, and raise your kids. your wife is happy, your friends come over every so often and you all laugh in the backyard while the kids play and you celebrate some holiday. you have more than enough time to enjoy the good things in life with more money.
your pocket is the extent of your happiness.
i put in the scenario for those of you that would say that money is evil and that the US is evil for pursuing it.
wow dude. one of the major rules to be taken seriously is to post reasons for saying something. you do a good job doing that.