See, the issue is not that we don't want you to have fun PvPing. Hell, I will most definitely participate in Arena once it is released. The issue is that we don't want to be FORCED to PvP when we want to just PvM. Diablo 3 has a completely different system for handling games (no game lists, just public and private).
What is the difference between open-PvP and the Arena system? Well, you cannot just go hostile and attack someone...which is actually a good thing. You cannot go duel someone in the middle of a progression run, making the two other people quit...oh wait..that's also a good thing. You cannot make up your own rules for PvP matches...ok...I give you that one.
Guess what?! I got a suggestion for a solution, private Arena matches...you make your own PvP game, invite players, make up your own rules and fight it out. Simple, fits in the current design, and offers the flexibility most want with open-PvP. Gives you the opportunity to battle with others that want to battle like you, and lets us that don't...not. These private Arena's could allow for spectators to let people stream and commentate battles, without Blizzard giving the impression that they are pushing eSports. By doing that, it lets them off the hook and lets people turn the game into an eSport on their own if they like (without completely balanced classes of course).
See, I'm not against PvP. What I am against is people trying to shoehorn Diablo 2 into a new game (Diablo 3). Blizzard chose to make the focus of Diablo 3 be PvM. They learned from the issues they had with allowing PvP to drive PvM design from WoW...essentially PvP ruined a lot of the PvM experience because having the awesome abilities or chance on hits meant they were too good or too bad for PvP. It is good that they've taken the direction they have as it lets them make the game feel a lot more epic, making abilities smash through enemies as you work your way through the story. They didn't neglect PvP in this new design, but they did decide to make it a more casual experience.
Blizzard doesn't expect you to buy Diablo 3 for PvP, they expect you to buy it to play through the story and grind for gear. That's what Diablo has always been about and its still the case here. If you like the new PvP system they offer, awesome...I'm sure I will. If you don't, enjoy the story and be done...it'll still be worth your money. If you don't think it's worth your money because it doesn't have epic PvP...then don't buy it. Whatever option you choose, don't try to shoehorn a very old tacked on PvP system into a game that already has its own PvP system.
Yeah each person gets their own loot that no one else can see.
I will be interested to see if they add content like this in to D3. I would love to see it because it like uber trist added more for me to do to keep me playing all this time haha.
Or you can request a system where no one can force someone else to participate if they dont want to. But all these solutions from pvp-centric people seem to revolve around we PvMers are ruining your fun by not wanting it. But so we dont spoil your fun we should just suck it up when it happens "once in a while" I dont think I am being the hypocrite here.
This is the type of thing that can go both ways, PvPing just to grief someone I'm with you, wasn't something I enjoyed. Killing a lowbie is just pointless to me, but what isn't pointless is killing someone for a rare spawn like Diablo clone. I see nothing wrong with fighting to the death for such a thing. Make it so you cant hostile lower levels then you, say....60's can only hostile 55-60. Some points we agree on, others I see it as its a free for all game, I should be able to fight you for the loot if I so choose. That anni is rare and it could be that one in a million perfect one, I want it I'll kill you for it.
And within the system that currently exists I don't think that is a totally unreasonable way to look at it. But obviously wont be an issue when we all have our own loot in D3 :-P
Or you can request a system where no one can force someone else to participate if they dont want to. But all these solutions from pvp-centric people seem to revolve around we PvMers are ruining your fun by not wanting it. But so we dont spoil your fun we should just suck it up when it happens "once in a while" I dont think I am being the hypocrite here.
Oh this makes so much sense instead of me not wanting to have to pvp if I dont want to I should just suck it up and do it anyway. Thank you so much for clarifying this for me
Because you know...those of us who don't want to be griefed are clearly just undergeared bitches...
Well the biggest issue I think most people have with the idea of hostility as it stood in D2 was that people would basically harass people who didn't want to participate to the point where they would make u quit ur own game out of frustration.
I see a lot of people on here who think that it wouldn't be abused if they brought it back and that game makers should be the only ones with the option. Well that also would mean that d-bag players could host a game claiming it was an MF run or w/e and then flag and kill people who come in. Same problem just a different delivery. There is no way in hell that blizzard is going to implement a hostile system back in to the game. If they did then the arena system wouldn't need to be there.
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I will be interested to see if they add content like this in to D3. I would love to see it because it like uber trist added more for me to do to keep me playing all this time haha.
And within the system that currently exists I don't think that is a totally unreasonable way to look at it. But obviously wont be an issue when we all have our own loot in D3 :-P
Because you know...those of us who don't want to be griefed are clearly just undergeared bitches...
I see a lot of people on here who think that it wouldn't be abused if they brought it back and that game makers should be the only ones with the option. Well that also would mean that d-bag players could host a game claiming it was an MF run or w/e and then flag and kill people who come in. Same problem just a different delivery. There is no way in hell that blizzard is going to implement a hostile system back in to the game. If they did then the arena system wouldn't need to be there.