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His info is old. That was the explanation given a long time ago for things like disintegrate not critting. Also his statement wasn't that it is a random number of ticks per second but that he wasn't sure what it was so he made up a number.. (50).

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xspeedballx#1991

The scamming isn't on the third party site solely. I agree to sell you something? I give it to you, you don't pay me, or find a way out of it. The transaction happened in game. Guess where the complaints will go? Guess how much yelling there will be if Blizzard doesn't help? Guess what.. Blizzard will actually want to help. To save time and money they created a secure way to prevent this scamming.

I don't think people that disagree with mature language rules have to be habitual cursers. I think some of them are people actively being selfish and not thinking about people who don't think like themselves. This is not a new behavior, and definitely not only on this topic. I think some are hoping the game they are playing is different than it is. I also think some honestly don't realize the audience of people they have hearing the language they are using.

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You know, I'm done with it. Some of you fan boys are too brainwashed to even carry on a valid discussion about this subject.

I would argue that you might be too enraged to have a valid discussion. I am not seeing much in this thread that looks or resembles fanboyism. Mostly just explaining how it is also why it is. You seem to want to explain why it shouldn't be. That is great. However, you are doing so by ignoring what people are telling you is the reality.

I would also remind you that the mature language filter covers far more than just traditional cussing.

Edit: Argh, double post, I apologize.

Of course they are warned. That is a standard ESRB warning that content coming from other people's fingers/mouths cannot be controlled. It doesn't mean there are not rules.

1) Blizzard is not in trouble if someone under the age of 17 is playing the game, only if they sold them the game.
2) It's not about whether someone has been exposed to be a little bit of profanity, it is whether someone should expect it. A rule exists about not swearing using hate speech and various other vulgarities. So a person going into that environment would have the expectation that it would be clear of those things.

Damn is a generally more acceptable curse for use. In fact rating systems I do not believe even mark that against the ratings for mild usage.

Of course they do. In fact I would guess these are probably some of the more thoroughly read forums. Mostly because they are slower moving but no less passionate.

The game is not Adults only. The game does officially allow Teens to play. You can argue all you want that most teens have seen, know, and say bad words. However it is not yours or anyone else's right to expose them to those words, or concepts(words are more than words after all). You also assume that everyone over the age of 18 that plays WoW/D3 also plays games and watches movies with sex and swearing. That's a fairly narrow viewpoint.

By and large private communication is not moderated. So if you are in a guild of adults and want to swear, you can, and you can turn the filter off to see it.

Mature Language filter exists for people to filter out language that they prefer not to see when people decide to break the rules and use it any way. If you disagree with the rule, you are perfectly free to go elsewhere that does not have that rule. You are also free to argue for why the rule should not exist. You are even free to break the rule, and then get punished for it.

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Instead of worrying that some other handle on the internet is getting attention, contribute to the conversation. Add and expand on the ideas. Make them better. Be happy the idea has attention.

The problem is that a well-presented "bad" idea can't be trumped by a badly presented better idea. Example: politics... it's not about what you say, but how you say it.

Besides, if you present ready-made patch notes you don't leave much room for conversation. "Hey, here's my idea: X, Y, and Z. What do you think?" gives people more opportunities for feedback than "Hey, I have a dream and here's my awesome shiny Photoshop of it." What are you gonna say? "Well, you know, the pixels are nice, but please stop dreaming?"

I think his points are valid. And I also understand if someone is upset if his work was plagiarized (didn't check though). It's definitely not new, so all the +1's are for the Photoshops.

I agree. Marketing is what it is. Whining about it and saying "but but but MY POST TOO!!!"(not saying that is how Lizardo came across necessarily) just makes it worse though. Now you are adding nothing to the conversation, devaluing your opinions in the eyes of true believers(the people who bought the marketing the moment they opened the post), devalued your opinions to skeptics as well.

Whether a post presents room for discussion or not, a discussion can happen with or without the blessing of the OP. Pretty much how things happen. It is up to the posters to choose to improve upon it. Then the now thinktanked idea can be re-presented. The old one will be forgotten and someone else gets the "credit". For whatever that credit is worth.

It is perfectly possible for a rational mind to ignore the sheep +1'ing for pretty pictures and to discuss the contents, as infuriating as it can be to actively participate in a thread where rationality of many has been turned off.

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Just bothers me that lots of people are calling this guy a genius for his ideas when they aren't original. I posted this idea on the official forums over a month ago and got no comments, and again the same idea on these forums a few days ago and only got a couple comments. Yet this guy posts a couple pictures with the same idea and people call him brilliant.

It is a good idea, and blizzard should listen to these ideas. But if he wanted to continue the conversation he should have helped elaborate on the original idea from my thread rather then making a new one with the same idea.

Why your thread? You assume he saw your thread. Who cares if people call him a genius? Because he is not? Because you had the same idea? Would you complain if your thread was popular and people called you a genius?

Every passionate fan has had an idea created and ignored only to have someone else create a flashier thread, or a more eye catching title and suddenly getting attention. Being a fan isn't a contest. I am excited if good ideas get attention. I am also disappointed when bad ideas get attention, and that drives me to start posting my own ideas.

Instead of worrying that some other handle on the internet is getting attention, contribute to the conversation. Add and expand on the ideas. Make them better. Be happy the idea has attention.

No reason to accuse someone of taking your idea. Also no reason not to expand on someone else's idea with more detail and design. There is no competition here, or prize to win. Just a bunch of passionate fans wanting to express our vision of the future enhancements to the game. I am quite confident numerous people came to the same conclusion about what they want to see even sometimes with the similar or same terminology.

But you know, if it makes you feel better, it is acknowledged that you posted a similar idea first.(on this forum, cannot verify others, or within the millions of people who play this games' heads).

Getting rid of the RMAH will solve nothing. Also Blizzard generally doesn't just remove a feature, until they have de-emphasized it enough. If RMAH goes away people will utilize player-auctions more heavily for gold and item buying needs. All you are doing now is sweeping your disgust under a rug. You can pretend the world is better and people aren't buying and selling stuff because there is no direct path to it.

The reality is the most expensive stuff is not bought or sold on RMAH. Gold is only bought on RMAH currently by people who honestly think the gold price floored at 25 cents per million.

What the RMAH DOES(or did) do is reduce the amount of accusations of scamming and actual scamming so that Blizzard can commit more resources to other activities. The internet is a vastly different beast than it was when D2 was at it's peak. The volume of items being traded is tremendously higher. Blizzard would have to have a whole department of FTE's working on scamming requests/restores/punishment. Ultimately it removes Blizzard's accountability for scamming by providing a secure process to prevent it. They are not going remove their own safety net whether you think that is unethical or not.

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Blizzard does not often just implement something just because a competitor did. Also when they do, they tend to put their own style and refinement to it.

Are we talking about the same Blizzard here?
They are kinda famous for taking what others did, and just do it a little better.

Which s a great thing.

Of course they only copy things they like (or things that are demanded a lot by the players), and I somewhat doubt they like PoEs racing system.

You did just say exactly what I said. You know that right?

When I say "just implement something because a competitor did" and you say "Of course they only copy things they like" we are on the same track.

When I say "Also when they do, they tend to put their own style and refinement to it." and you say "taking what others did, and just do it a little better." we are also on the same track.

Just because it is not always clear, I am not actually snarking you here, but I wanted to make sure my message was coming across clear. Blizzard, like every other major developer uses successful design concepts from other games. Blizzard also often(but not always) makes them better. Occassionally they pioneer a concept across an industry as well. They do not however just add the mechanic of the month to there game just because some other game has it.

This is done for multiple reasons, most common likely(conjecture) being that the design of the mechanic does not immediately fit the design of the game they have.