ohh wow... its normally Grey and flesh tone. when i saw the wallpaper pic i was surprised, i really thought the statue was colored with the gold and blue back light... goes show how much better it looks to me when its ... dare i say, coloured.
i honestly love diablo 1 more than I ever imagined i did, nostalgia of D2 did blind me, and with all the new updates i hear of D3, i thought it was nostalgia blinding again me as jay wilson firstly told us, but as soon as i turned D1 on, (after playing D2 since i first heard of D3) its truly a unique game, dark, visually beatiful from the grained still colourful ui, awesome gothic and dark look weapons sprite in your inventory and such an atmospheric game, with the most amazing music, recreating not just a fun game, but an expirence that you almost living in a nightmare, rather being reminded der, your just in a game.
that game wont ever be remade and nothing honestly will come close to it, but thats just my opinion solely cause blizzards delved so deep into reaching a mass demographic and become so big, that the minority that first fell in love with the series, first was inspired and touched by it, first supported the company through years of wait and first raised there business and dream of the ground, now only is second rate to mass numbers.
quantity over quality.
and if it continues,.... welll just look at comic books these days. and i think youll understand.
atm, i really dont care how D3 turns out. yeah ill still play it, and mostlikley have fun playing the game. but thats as deep as it will go. it will be just a fun game. where as the first two were my soul inspiration for gaming.
(and what actually got me into the game company i work for now.)
I was just read the interview UGO recently conducted with three of the designers behind Diablo III
and on the topic of battle.net they stated;
Quote:
"... No one will be forced to sign on to Battle.net to play Diablo III, but characters created offline will not be playable online in the interests of limiting any potential for cheating the system."
When they you cant play with your characters offline, online. I take it that's solely for battle net? or does that apply to tc/ip games aswell, ... cause damn that would suck if you don't really want to do anything with the community and just want to stick to playing with your gf and friends.
it got me curious, does anyone know if there will be tcp/ip anymore or if its all simply intertwined with battle.net to play private games?
LOTOR is known for beautiful landscapes. Tolkein painted a picture of the world he created, and it was beautiful. Very little of that world is actually dark.
What has been painted for us in Diablo has been a dark world filled with dark things. What we have seen in Diablo 3 is not dark, including a dungeon that is SUPPOSED TO BE DARK... according to Deckard Cain himself.
What we saw was not dark. Not at all. The entire Dungeon was glowing with a blueish-green glow.
Right, this is great. The thing he seems to be forgetting is that Diablo 2 took place outside more than it did inside. 4/5ths of the action was outside. Diablo 2 was STILL dark, not in actual darkness but in mood and feeling.
Diablo 3 does not depict that mood and feeling. This troubles me when they have been quoted as having said "We want dark to be a mood and not a color." Act 1 in Diablo 2 depicted dark as a mood without actually being dark.
Color? K. We get it. You guys like color. I like color. I prefer to play games like Super Mario Galaxy over Gears of War. I don't, however, like to play games that are colorful just to be colorful or dark just to be dark. The REASON that Diablo 1 and 2 were dark games (in mood) were because it fit. It genuinely fit.
The mood set for us in Diablo 3 is not dark. Not at all. If this is the very first thing we see when we enter the game, the mood will not be dark.
Diablo 1. First thing we see? A dead tree. We walk a bit and we see a dying man in a pool of blood.
Diablo 2. First thing we see? Dead grass, a rogue encampment. We walk out, first place we find? Den of Evil.
Diablo 3. First thing we see? A polished and new cathedral (doesn't make sense, doesn't match the concept art, doesn't fit the lore, doesn't match what Deckard Cain said about the place) that is glowing with a blueish-green glow. It isn't dark like Deckard Cain mentioned.
No arguments here. The textures are fine. Maybe a little more detail, but stuff like that comes with development time. Everyone understands this.
What we don't understand are:
Color and theme choices
Glowing dungeons
I'm SO glad they are focusing on the gameplay first. Although I'm firm in my belief that the game needs to be darker in mood from the VERY beginning, I'd much rather have a game that plays well than more mood.
One thing I don't think Blizzard understands is that they already have a series that is bright and vibrant. They have another series that is an inbetween (starcraft) and they have this series that is incredibly dark and morbid. To many of us, it appears as if they have lost sight of this and it's a shame.
Hellfire is easily available on the more shifty peer to peer sites, but I would not recommened torrenting this title for the following reasons:
1. Blizzard is a cool enough company that makes cool games and deserve our support.
2. Blizzard watches torrent sites and unless you know how to hide they complain to your ISP that you have pirated a title of theirs. A buddy I know got a warning from Comcast that he had torrented Starcraft. He was a dumb*$$ and should have just bought the thing as it was in a bin for like $9 at We-Will-Destroy-You-Puny-Indy-Retailer-Mart.
3. Hellfire sucks and is not worth stealing much less buying.
The moral of all this is that torrenting should only be used to rip of Metallica songs even if you don't like Metallica as Lars Ulrich is a fool who is pissed that he is going bald so he takes out his frustration of having a small package out on his fans. Oh and never outsource Diablo work, even something as small as a little add-on pack. Although the guy in the cow constume was funny.
But Blizzard is a sweet company who has yet to let us down and deserve all our support! :thumbsup:
Can you even buy a legit copy of Hellfire anymore? I had borrowed a friends CD back in the day and that's why I know what it was like, but I have not seen the thing for sale in years.
lmao,
yeah i didnt know sierra made hellfire... actually it makes alot of sense now... although... i cant really play diablo without it, (praises to be able to run in town)
just an update, i had a change of heart, im in melbourne, AU couldnt bloody find this battlechest anywhere aswell. hopefully theres one near an eb at my place.
Wow, are you being an ignorant douchebag on purpose or is this an elaborate joke and I've just missed the bulletin?
My parents have never filtered what I've played or watched, and I've turned out fine. Going to say my parents have fucked me up because they aren't control freaks? I get brilliant grades, I'm smart, got a job, have loads of friends and build and upgrade pc's in my spare time. Yes, I fail at life. Must have been all that time playing Diablo II.
thats good for you mate.
how old are you?
cause, im refereing to the kids under 14 that dont know how to have fun without ruining someone elses expirience, sorry if i didn't clear it,
i mean, go to a random school and give them a online game were you can kill each other and look at the average 14 yr old play, leave it with them for months watch them get far in it.
then tell me how many of them do you think are mature. lol
you sound like you got a good life, great job, but guess what, theres more immature kids out there that probably haven't even been given the care that you have. its just up to whoever rasing them can take a risk or not, and ive got nothing against filtering mature stuff for my kids if i choose to by it for them, so again, maybe you'd let your 12 yr olds run around on diablo on lvl 90 killing noobs, good for you. its just as a gamer grown up you try to stop that for everyones sake. instead of letting it happen over and over cause you don't give a crap.
Yes, because my parents should just put me into care. They let me play games on the internet, what bad, bad parents.
I hope you are never a parent yourself, I feel sorry for your future children.
no, or then again maybe they should, i dont know ya.
parents fuck up kids, not kids. they get over exposed, to scumbags in life, which again is not really a bad thing, just on there own it could lead to many issues.
hell id let my kids play as much games as they want lol, but ill be there to explain to them whats moral whats not and still let them enjoy themselves, not letting him go fucking about growing up to be a sadistic person who fails at life, hoping he can take it out against the online worlds.
internet gameplay is not for kids in general and will never be to any decent parent, lol, but sadly that statment is only a false utopia in my head according to most people here, (aka kids) thanks to crap parenting of the world.
stick to offline if your a MATURE gamer, and with real life mates, its more fun. lets the kids muck around like kids with strangers.
i have to say d1 for story.
what i liked about d1 is that it leads you to use your imagination and builds you up from the start to fear whatever is under the chruch, just like necronergal mentioned with ogden. its one thing that was done well cause there was so much mystery about the whole world and your character, and that you couldnt help but want to help these people. i hope they implement the same in D3 as a perfect mix between both d2 game play and d1 story and mystery and ,horrorific atmosphere. cause there both so similar but very different at the same time.
I was first worried Diablo would look very colorful, before the trailers or any news were released, only because it stirs up dull memory's of Titan Quest and Wow for me,
(and face it blizzard, you left us for 6 years now? with D2. Any Diablo fan couldn't help but try TQ).
and yeah, my first impression of the gameplay trailer was that it feels like an upgraded version of TQ. where as diablo really did stand out for there high contrast(easily fixed you your monitor settings aswell i guess) but also the and gothic style and dark colours.
I respect blizzards challenge to make it just as atmospheric as the old ones, even with the vibrant color palate direction. but yeah, it feels to similar for yet another one of there awesome titles sorta clashing with diablos own unique feel. One other thing is Diablo, from what ive seen around in game forums, was always huge for the fans that could never get into the whole child friendly atmosphere feel to the games, mainly influenced by the colours, lol wow or the new SC art style aswell, which recently came under scrutiny from long time fans.
however... i would be disappointed if it ended up looking like gears of war in all honesty.
so If i could choose an alternative for feedbacks sake, it would be just to tone it down abit, just for atmosphere, and stick with very gothic designs for architecture and environments.
One other thing that D2 fans forget, is how significant the real horror was in the first one compared to the second oner. and i know i cant fairly judge this part from the vids ive seen. but best example to begin with, is the butcher.
I remember why he was so freaky, and it wasnt cause he leapt out at me going fresh meat (although it gave me quite a freak out the first time) but it was the aftermath, when you see his room, what he left behind, almost a peek into his warped existence, in all that darkness and with that eeiry music, which from then on made me go F^&k now this is one hell of a game, and left paranoid to explore all the dungeons.
in conclusion, im 100% sure it will be the most fun diablo, but i don't think i can get the same dark atmosphere diablo 1 was perfected for if its full of colors. and what i fear is it will be generically epic.
Its what made diablo feel unique, compared to sacred or TQ, and its why i enjoyed the D series the most, all the horror aspects, mixed with how fun it was and a sweet the story was, even the characters who you could see were deeply disturbed and almost struggling to be brave, in and by there surroundings, instead of just generic balls blazing in the dungeon.
it felt awesome going into god only knows what monstrous dungeon, with that paranoid feeling that something could be in the shadows that you missed forcing ya self to be brave and take on whatever demon lurked there.
in all honesty, im surpirsed your comparison turned out feeling good still. i have to agree, diablo is not a mish mash of colour rather themed by a colour.
it sets atmosphere, and you really need it in a diablo or it turns into titan quest....
with the whole pay huge amounts of money over years just! to get rid of kids, seriously you guys are fooling your selfs, i played wow, aoc, lineage same shit, pay to play or not kids have parents, and they stil lget on, and! its not just kids that are immature,
its like you hope humanity is as mature as you guys and your firends but sorry to break it to ya, theres always pricks online, and its just a waste of money.
for a game like diablo which isnt even an mmo, honestly. just play with mates instead of random online people. its was more fun.
that game wont ever be remade and nothing honestly will come close to it, but thats just my opinion solely cause blizzards delved so deep into reaching a mass demographic and become so big, that the minority that first fell in love with the series, first was inspired and touched by it, first supported the company through years of wait and first raised there business and dream of the ground, now only is second rate to mass numbers.
quantity over quality.
and if it continues,.... welll just look at comic books these days. and i think youll understand.
atm, i really dont care how D3 turns out. yeah ill still play it, and mostlikley have fun playing the game. but thats as deep as it will go. it will be just a fun game. where as the first two were my soul inspiration for gaming.
(and what actually got me into the game company i work for now.)
Good luck Blizzard.
wow... looks like the D3 petition got to someone
oops didnt see there was already a thread about this, my bad.
and on the topic of battle.net they stated;
Quote:
"... No one will be forced to sign on to Battle.net to play Diablo III, but characters created offline will not be playable online in the interests of limiting any potential for cheating the system."
When they you cant play with your characters offline, online. I take it that's solely for battle net? or does that apply to tc/ip games aswell, ... cause damn that would suck if you don't really want to do anything with the community and just want to stick to playing with your gf and friends.
it got me curious, does anyone know if there will be tcp/ip anymore or if its all simply intertwined with battle.net to play private games?
Excellent post man,
its exactly how i feel.
lmao,
yeah i didnt know sierra made hellfire... actually it makes alot of sense now... although... i cant really play diablo without it, (praises to be able to run in town)
just an update, i had a change of heart, im in melbourne, AU couldnt bloody find this battlechest anywhere aswell. hopefully theres one near an eb at my place.
thats good for you mate.
how old are you?
cause, im refereing to the kids under 14 that dont know how to have fun without ruining someone elses expirience, sorry if i didn't clear it,
i mean, go to a random school and give them a online game were you can kill each other and look at the average 14 yr old play, leave it with them for months watch them get far in it.
then tell me how many of them do you think are mature. lol
you sound like you got a good life, great job, but guess what, theres more immature kids out there that probably haven't even been given the care that you have. its just up to whoever rasing them can take a risk or not, and ive got nothing against filtering mature stuff for my kids if i choose to by it for them, so again, maybe you'd let your 12 yr olds run around on diablo on lvl 90 killing noobs, good for you. its just as a gamer grown up you try to stop that for everyones sake. instead of letting it happen over and over cause you don't give a crap.
no, or then again maybe they should, i dont know ya.
parents fuck up kids, not kids. they get over exposed, to scumbags in life, which again is not really a bad thing, just on there own it could lead to many issues.
hell id let my kids play as much games as they want lol, but ill be there to explain to them whats moral whats not and still let them enjoy themselves, not letting him go fucking about growing up to be a sadistic person who fails at life, hoping he can take it out against the online worlds.
stick to offline if your a MATURE gamer, and with real life mates, its more fun. lets the kids muck around like kids with strangers.
what i liked about d1 is that it leads you to use your imagination and builds you up from the start to fear whatever is under the chruch, just like necronergal mentioned with ogden. its one thing that was done well cause there was so much mystery about the whole world and your character, and that you couldnt help but want to help these people. i hope they implement the same in D3 as a perfect mix between both d2 game play and d1 story and mystery and ,horrorific atmosphere. cause there both so similar but very different at the same time.
(and face it blizzard, you left us for 6 years now? with D2. Any Diablo fan couldn't help but try TQ).
and yeah, my first impression of the gameplay trailer was that it feels like an upgraded version of TQ. where as diablo really did stand out for there high contrast(easily fixed you your monitor settings aswell i guess) but also the and gothic style and dark colours.
I respect blizzards challenge to make it just as atmospheric as the old ones, even with the vibrant color palate direction. but yeah, it feels to similar for yet another one of there awesome titles sorta clashing with diablos own unique feel. One other thing is Diablo, from what ive seen around in game forums, was always huge for the fans that could never get into the whole child friendly atmosphere feel to the games, mainly influenced by the colours, lol wow or the new SC art style aswell, which recently came under scrutiny from long time fans.
however... i would be disappointed if it ended up looking like gears of war in all honesty.
so If i could choose an alternative for feedbacks sake, it would be just to tone it down abit, just for atmosphere, and stick with very gothic designs for architecture and environments.
One other thing that D2 fans forget, is how significant the real horror was in the first one compared to the second oner. and i know i cant fairly judge this part from the vids ive seen. but best example to begin with, is the butcher.
I remember why he was so freaky, and it wasnt cause he leapt out at me going fresh meat (although it gave me quite a freak out the first time) but it was the aftermath, when you see his room, what he left behind, almost a peek into his warped existence, in all that darkness and with that eeiry music, which from then on made me go F^&k now this is one hell of a game, and left paranoid to explore all the dungeons.
in conclusion, im 100% sure it will be the most fun diablo, but i don't think i can get the same dark atmosphere diablo 1 was perfected for if its full of colors. and what i fear is it will be generically epic.
Its what made diablo feel unique, compared to sacred or TQ, and its why i enjoyed the D series the most, all the horror aspects, mixed with how fun it was and a sweet the story was, even the characters who you could see were deeply disturbed and almost struggling to be brave, in and by there surroundings, instead of just generic balls blazing in the dungeon.
it felt awesome going into god only knows what monstrous dungeon, with that paranoid feeling that something could be in the shadows that you missed forcing ya self to be brave and take on whatever demon lurked there.
keep the fear alive in the dark blizz
altogether, Great job so far, keep up the work.
it sets atmosphere, and you really need it in a diablo or it turns into titan quest....
its like you hope humanity is as mature as you guys and your firends but sorry to break it to ya, theres always pricks online, and its just a waste of money.
for a game like diablo which isnt even an mmo, honestly. just play with mates instead of random online people. its was more fun.