WoW is action MMORPG btw. The action is pretty fast, especially when u play certain classes (rogue/warrior anyone?)
The way our newcomer ArchVile described Diablo made me feel like its an easymode game u can play and finish without watching what ur actually doing (hold ur left mouse button and every mob u fight gets dead, you win, hurray). I always tried to find alternative ways to kill in Diablo (2). Not just "press one button and win". I dont like "iwin buttons", thats why i really like the way WoW goes. Figure out the strategy, focus and u'll get the kill. What every guy in here always forgets is that in WoW ur supposed to play with others, which makes the pace of the kills/progress way faster. Even if it was as easy as some of u guys want it (cause u want it easier, not faster - thats total crap) it would be too easy to bother playing with.
I have never played WoW and never had the urge to.... good to see my instincts were right on this one. It's also sad to see a company such as blizzard that has so many talents but the talents are now limited to one game and one game only.. WoW, I loved the diablo world as well as starcraft and warcraft (strategy of course). Really looking forward for diablo 3 to come out. They should go ahead and just scratch out that expansion for WoW, as matter of fact they might as well just go ahead and abort that whole project
the reason why I hate WoW is because of how slow the action is.
What are you talking about? WoW is one of the most fast paced MMORPGs on the market! You're just too ignorant to notice. Either that or you're making up some reason to bitch about it. Please name a faster MMO if you think you're so right.
one of the best things about diablo was the kind of randomness of fighting. you would hold down on the left mouse button and hack away, and it was random, meaning the bad guy would hit you, maybe twice, then you, then you, etc.
I fail to see the difference. Diablo 2 is only hack-n-slash. That's all you do. I'm not saying D2 is bad because they do that, because I am a huge fan of D2. But WoW has a lot more to do than that. You just don't look beyond one basic idea of the game which can be applied to 95 percent of games.
but WoW is just...hit....he hits you.....hit.....he hits you...hit...you get the point. ITS SO SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're retarded. Please go put you're helmet on before you lose anymore brain cells. And how do I get a point that doesn't even exist? Are you trying to deny the fact that the majority of D2 has to do with hitting and being hit?
It's also sad to see a company such as blizzard that has so many talents but the talents are now limited to one game and one game only..
You're an idiot too. WoW has made Blizzard skyrocket in stock market value and in employee size. Because of WoW, they now have the cash and workforce to manage multiple video game projects. Last I checked the news, which was a while ago, an article said that Blizzard had only a few hundred employees. After the success of WoW, Blizzard was then able to hire over 5000 people. If that's not enough to make Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft: Ghost, and the Burning Crusade, then the employee workload is questionably low.
beuatiful and wonderful points muttonchops. ive never played wow, but couldnt anyways with my crap computer and my inability to pay for it but i support it just as much as you do because of your point about it making blizzard filthy stinkin rich. also like you i agree that blizzard now has the power and people to make the games for all the franchises.
You're an idiot too. WoW has made Blizzard skyrocket in stock market value and in employee size. Because of WoW, they now have the cash and workforce to manage multiple video game projects. Last I checked the news, which was a while ago, an article said that Blizzard had only a few hundred employees. After the success of WoW, Blizzard was then able to hire over 5000 people. If that's not enough to make Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft: Ghost, and the Burning Crusade, then the employee workload is questionably low.
I know WoW has made blizzard mucho money, thats great for the company but with so many employees, you would think they would have the resources to make more games besides WoW for instance a gamer goes into the store that has played all previous titles released from blizzard he wants to play something different than WoW like out of the diablo world or starcraft world, ooops! sorry bud your only selection is WoW. Don't get me wrong but WoW might be fun for a while or indefinately for that matter but like you said 5000 employees... seems like that would be plenty of people to make more than just one game or make an expansion for that matter don't you think?
really good point but seeing as they lost most of their diablo makers its a tight deal. think about it. you would rather have a lot of emphasis on WoW while its still big, then move on. that way you give what a lot of people want, and get plenty in return. blizzard has stated that it is lazer pointed on something right now, diablo 3?? remember that you just cant make a game, especially diablo, without a grand plan. there has to be a really big timeline and a lot of events in between. also fitting the games in there is a struggle. i like that they are more dependent on warcraft because warcraft was their first big break. because of warcraft they were able to expand onto diablo and with those two they were able to expand to warcraft 2 and 3, diablo 2 and expansion, and then starcraft and expansion. wouldnt it be fair to give some to those that were there first, the warcraft followers??
dont get me wrong, i love diablo. diablo is my most favorite game ever, despite the graphics. i have invested MANY hours into it. but be sure to remember these words, diablo is next. we are next in line for an upgrade. that thing that blizzard is lazer focused on, i have good reason to believe that its diablo 3. because of the employees in blizzard, there are many:
making new monsters, thinking of ideas, thinking of new franchises, marketing, incorporating monsters into games, character types, character incorporation into game, game design, game programming, story, video desingners, artists, writers for scripts, and so on.
there are hundreds of jobs that are needed for a game, not to mention the whole gameplay!!! i would rather it be 5000 people working on this and make it the kickass game of the decade instead of another game of the year. i am willing to wait for a year to see what they have under their sleeve and shock everyone. i have great faith in blizzard that they will deliver, and we all have great reason to have this faith in the gaming superpower.
I know WoW has made blizzard mucho money, thats great for the company but with so many employees, you would think they would have the resources to make more games besides WoW for instance a gamer goes into the store that has played all previous titles released from blizzard he wants to play something different than WoW like out of the diablo world or starcraft world, ooops! sorry bud your only selection is WoW. Don't get me wrong but WoW might be fun for a while or indefinately for that matter but like you said 5000 employees... seems like that would be plenty of people to make more than just one game or make an expansion for that matter don't you think?
Carloseus made a point that basically shuts you down. You gotta hit the fad while it's big.
you would think they would have the resources to make more games besides WoW for instance a gamer goes into the store that has played all previous titles released from blizzard he wants to play something different than WoW like out of the diablo world or starcraft world, ooops! sorry bud your only selection is WoW.
One, the anticipation of a new game tends to draw more of a crowd. Two, Blizzard values quality over quantity. That has been proven by the fact that every single one of Blizzard's game has been a best-seller.
you continue to incite hate and malice for the believers of Silversurfnstudism. you have also broken a rule:
"5. Thou shalt not post shit and nosense in the threads, thou shall post only quality info" -Elfen Lied.
not only this, you have also posted a comment completely unsupported by fact. why is it for fags?? how?? you are being a complete idiot on this one. from here ill let Muttonchops and FingolfenGR eradicate you. i will not even wish you good luck because you shall not be spared mercy anyways and you do not deserve it.
anyway, about Karlas posts... Prolly you didnt read the posts i made earlier. MMORPGs are like that. You cant expect everything to be soloable. Yes, it requires waiting to get people for a 5 man instance. Yes it requires organization for the 40 man raids (that reset only once a week - not twice). But there arent all instances as hard. Molten Core is a joke. Blackwing Lair is ok. Temple of Ahn Qiraj is one step harder and Naxxramas is just insane. The best items are for the ones that give more effort to the game, not for everyone. Its what a MMO is all about. You're telling me WoW is boring. How is it boring when u always have something to do? Sorry, but it doesnt make any sense. As one of the loading screen tips say "If you're in a queue for a Battleground, you dont have to stand by the battleground to remain in the queue". To find people in your instance groups that stay till the end is your job, not the games. There's something called "friends list" that you can use to add people u know they stay to the end.
in 40 man raids, does it really matter that your there?
ofc it matters. Every class has its role. If you dont play your class well then you shouldnt play in end-game.
how it made me long for Diablo again, the most fun game ever.
it made u long a game that only has 1 thing to do. Kill mobs. You can do that in WoW too. Make a mage, spec for aoe, go and kill stuff. Nothing more than that. Oh, wait you want to get the best items of the game while playing by pressing 1 button without doing anything hard. Sorry, for that WoW isnt good, really.
they prob have no idea just how damn boring the game is because they are so hopelessly hooked.
Self-righteous and presumptuous, much? I think so. This is you:
What i really hated the most about WOW was the fact you have to set your life around it as instances only reset twice a week and you need to gather a party of 40 people to play them, if you dont do this you will never get the best items in the game.. sorry for this outburst but FUCK THAT.
That's what guilds are for. There is nothing about the game that requires you to center your life around it. You're only assuming that because you're too dim-witted to think of other possibilities. You know...like when you talk to your guilds about scheduling raids...you offer a time when you will be available. If you don't like it, then great, don't do it. There are other things to do besides raiding, you fucking retard.
I play for fun damnit
Glad to hear it. I'd hate for it to become a chore for anyone. That defeats the purpose of video games.
not to mention its so boring and people are afraid to aggro one another because they are afraid of a guild kick, everyone is so very nice to each other all the while, sometimes i'm in a bad mood and i want to take it out of people in game, you just can't do that with WOW. It's so very very gay.
How are people so afraid to aggro eachother? You have no idea what you're talking about. And what kind of guild kicks you for participating in PvP. Sounds like a guild you shouldn't be in. And I don't know where you get the idea that all the people are so nice. There is a good bit of bitches in that game, which I would understand if they were ruining your experience in the game, but it seems you're saying the opposite.
becoming dead if you aggro more than 2 monsters
That usually happens when you suck at playing the game.
waiting for stuff like faires to appear every FEW MONTHS
It's every month you dolt. And the faires are simply extra to get fun stuff. You can survive without it, and I'll be damned if you can't. So stop your bitching.
more waiting in line for battle fields (yes there's a lot of waiting in this game)
Most of that was taken care of by the cross-server PvP, but when you can't get in, you can do other things, whether it's in the game or in real life.
It doesnt get much better when your in battle, in 40 man raids, does it really matter that your there?
It tends to, yes. You're just too dense to realize it.
in 5 man raids, someone always has to leave half way and it takes ages to get a game going,
Congratulations, it happens. IN EVERY SINGLE ONLINE GAME. Go beat off to Diablo 2, in which the same thing can happen. So your point falls flat.
wait there more.... It really should win some kind of MOST BORING GAME EVER award.
Good thing you're not assigning awards. Cuz the majority disagrees with you.
muttonchops i absolutely love the way you obliterate and destroy these people and their stupid hate for warcraft. you are able to show their density and absolute ignorance with logic as well as a major opinion. i look forward to your verbal slayings.
wanna join SLAYERS?? you can be the one who owns all the noobs with words instead of fists, or is that opus dei?? idk but it would serve any guild to have one with a sharp mind and wit (yes they are different) in their side because when all else fails, the mind prevails.
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The way our newcomer ArchVile described Diablo made me feel like its an easymode game u can play and finish without watching what ur actually doing (hold ur left mouse button and every mob u fight gets dead, you win, hurray). I always tried to find alternative ways to kill in Diablo (2). Not just "press one button and win". I dont like "iwin buttons", thats why i really like the way WoW goes. Figure out the strategy, focus and u'll get the kill. What every guy in here always forgets is that in WoW ur supposed to play with others, which makes the pace of the kills/progress way faster. Even if it was as easy as some of u guys want it (cause u want it easier, not faster - thats total crap) it would be too easy to bother playing with.
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I fail to see the difference. Diablo 2 is only hack-n-slash. That's all you do. I'm not saying D2 is bad because they do that, because I am a huge fan of D2. But WoW has a lot more to do than that. You just don't look beyond one basic idea of the game which can be applied to 95 percent of games.
You're retarded. Please go put you're helmet on before you lose anymore brain cells. And how do I get a point that doesn't even exist? Are you trying to deny the fact that the majority of D2 has to do with hitting and being hit?
You're an idiot too. WoW has made Blizzard skyrocket in stock market value and in employee size. Because of WoW, they now have the cash and workforce to manage multiple video game projects. Last I checked the news, which was a while ago, an article said that Blizzard had only a few hundred employees. After the success of WoW, Blizzard was then able to hire over 5000 people. If that's not enough to make Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft: Ghost, and the Burning Crusade, then the employee workload is questionably low.
GM WARRIOR FTW!!!
WTF??? Are you talking about dude??? that makes no sense!
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I know WoW has made blizzard mucho money, thats great for the company but with so many employees, you would think they would have the resources to make more games besides WoW for instance a gamer goes into the store that has played all previous titles released from blizzard he wants to play something different than WoW like out of the diablo world or starcraft world, ooops! sorry bud your only selection is WoW. Don't get me wrong but WoW might be fun for a while or indefinately for that matter but like you said 5000 employees... seems like that would be plenty of people to make more than just one game or make an expansion for that matter don't you think?
dont get me wrong, i love diablo. diablo is my most favorite game ever, despite the graphics. i have invested MANY hours into it. but be sure to remember these words, diablo is next. we are next in line for an upgrade. that thing that blizzard is lazer focused on, i have good reason to believe that its diablo 3. because of the employees in blizzard, there are many:
making new monsters, thinking of ideas, thinking of new franchises, marketing, incorporating monsters into games, character types, character incorporation into game, game design, game programming, story, video desingners, artists, writers for scripts, and so on.
there are hundreds of jobs that are needed for a game, not to mention the whole gameplay!!! i would rather it be 5000 people working on this and make it the kickass game of the decade instead of another game of the year. i am willing to wait for a year to see what they have under their sleeve and shock everyone. i have great faith in blizzard that they will deliver, and we all have great reason to have this faith in the gaming superpower.
Carloseus made a point that basically shuts you down. You gotta hit the fad while it's big.
One, the anticipation of a new game tends to draw more of a crowd. Two, Blizzard values quality over quantity. That has been proven by the fact that every single one of Blizzard's game has been a best-seller.
....of warcraft.
"5. Thou shalt not post shit and nosense in the threads, thou shall post only quality info" -Elfen Lied.
not only this, you have also posted a comment completely unsupported by fact. why is it for fags?? how?? you are being a complete idiot on this one. from here ill let Muttonchops and FingolfenGR eradicate you. i will not even wish you good luck because you shall not be spared mercy anyways and you do not deserve it.
....of warcraft.
i exclude gnomes and dwarves and ur right
anyway, about Karlas posts... Prolly you didnt read the posts i made earlier. MMORPGs are like that. You cant expect everything to be soloable. Yes, it requires waiting to get people for a 5 man instance. Yes it requires organization for the 40 man raids (that reset only once a week - not twice). But there arent all instances as hard. Molten Core is a joke. Blackwing Lair is ok. Temple of Ahn Qiraj is one step harder and Naxxramas is just insane. The best items are for the ones that give more effort to the game, not for everyone. Its what a MMO is all about. You're telling me WoW is boring. How is it boring when u always have something to do? Sorry, but it doesnt make any sense. As one of the loading screen tips say "If you're in a queue for a Battleground, you dont have to stand by the battleground to remain in the queue". To find people in your instance groups that stay till the end is your job, not the games. There's something called "friends list" that you can use to add people u know they stay to the end.
ofc it matters. Every class has its role. If you dont play your class well then you shouldnt play in end-game.
it made u long a game that only has 1 thing to do. Kill mobs. You can do that in WoW too. Make a mage, spec for aoe, go and kill stuff. Nothing more than that. Oh, wait you want to get the best items of the game while playing by pressing 1 button without doing anything hard. Sorry, for that WoW isnt good, really.
By that logic, WoW=perfect for you.
Self-righteous and presumptuous, much? I think so. This is you:
That's what guilds are for. There is nothing about the game that requires you to center your life around it. You're only assuming that because you're too dim-witted to think of other possibilities. You know...like when you talk to your guilds about scheduling raids...you offer a time when you will be available. If you don't like it, then great, don't do it. There are other things to do besides raiding, you fucking retard.
Glad to hear it. I'd hate for it to become a chore for anyone. That defeats the purpose of video games.
How are people so afraid to aggro eachother? You have no idea what you're talking about. And what kind of guild kicks you for participating in PvP. Sounds like a guild you shouldn't be in. And I don't know where you get the idea that all the people are so nice. There is a good bit of bitches in that game, which I would understand if they were ruining your experience in the game, but it seems you're saying the opposite.
That usually happens when you suck at playing the game.
It's every month you dolt. And the faires are simply extra to get fun stuff. You can survive without it, and I'll be damned if you can't. So stop your bitching.
Most of that was taken care of by the cross-server PvP, but when you can't get in, you can do other things, whether it's in the game or in real life.
It tends to, yes. You're just too dense to realize it.
Congratulations, it happens. IN EVERY SINGLE ONLINE GAME. Go beat off to Diablo 2, in which the same thing can happen. So your point falls flat.
Good thing you're not assigning awards. Cuz the majority disagrees with you.
wanna join SLAYERS?? you can be the one who owns all the noobs with words instead of fists, or is that opus dei?? idk but it would serve any guild to have one with a sharp mind and wit (yes they are different) in their side because when all else fails, the mind prevails.