Did I say that Marius was a rogue? No.
The Rogues also happen to guard the path that leads to the East. Marius might have needed to pass through the monastery. And I am sure although he was male he would have been granted passage.
Recall that Warriv (and other caravan owners) used this route to journey to Lut Gholein or other trade cities.
"I'm glad to know that once again caravans are free to travel through the Western Pass." - Jerhyn
Rogue Monastery != Eastern Gate and
Eastern Gate == Monastery Gate
The entire caravans with its camels and vagons couldn’t pass through a Monastery. Rogue Monastery is a place in the Eastern (Monastery) Gate's vicinity, and that gate was controlling by the Sisterhood. There is no reason for the Rogues to allow outside people to hang about their ancestral monastery.
It was Diablo who summoned her, (how can you come up with rogues having to summon her, now that's a laugh, you seem to be loosing your grace).
Your speculations are founded on the speculations of Deckard Cain who didn’t witness summonning of Andariel. You yourself know the Prime Evils was exiled by Lesser Evils, So Diablo is a master of Andariel no more. So Diablo couldn’t even hope that Lesser Evils would agree to help them. Obviously, Andariel and Duriel was tired of internal conflicts of ignorant Belial and Azmodan and realized that they should help Prime Evils to return. Andariel and Duriel have fought the Three because they were indignant of stopping of the Great Conflict, no more. Of course, all Rogues hardly have a great discussion in order to decide to summon a demoness. But there is no obstacles for doing it either one/two rogues, or by Andariel herself without any help of the mortals. Were the Rogues summoned demoness or not it is not important. In adition, By assuming you own words, Hero of Tristram have lost himself after summoning Andariel.
I can’t say that your speculations are not logical, and you also can’t say that MY speculations are not logical. Also you can’t say that logical speculations are truthfull, but you can say that logical speculations may (have a chance to) be truthfull. Your logical speculations can’t solve that great contradictions in the plot, but it can give a lot of meaningless and small contradictions to MY speculations. On the contrary, my logical speculations can solve the great contradictions in the plot and it is easier to decline some small flaws in my 'theory' in order to solve the great contradictions. And all your great and considerable arguments I have already disproved and you didn’t comment it.
Your speculations present Marius as a brave and stubborn die-hearted passed through a great and/or dangerous obstacles in his way (sea, jungles, entering and escaping Durance of Hatred and etc.). Of course, you didn’t say that Marius is a brave and volitional man, but WHAT you didn’t say (or intentionally avoided) is a logical conclusions I made from your speculations. So stop posting such an indignant words as “WHERE?! WHERE I said…” or “Did I say…” What you didn’t say is the contradictions in your speculation you can’t explain.
By saying “May I guess, my stubborness is a quality you don't have, isn't it?” I mean that you are also stubborn, according to your fanatical desire to disprove my point of view, my speculations with a help of your way of logical speculations and conclusions.
By saying “These are the words of who are loosing” I mean that you should calm yourself and stop offending me. A presence of your negative emotions in your posts and your insulting confirm that you fear smth., and feel uncertainty. These are the actions of a hesitating person.
By saying “I'm enjoying of your hot temper.” I mean that I guessed your uncertainty because of a presence of your negative emotions in your posts. In such a way you can’t keep any constructive discussion.
You’re trying to pick a mote out from my eye while there is a huge log in you eye. Since now I will refrain from further commenting your supercilious and emotional posts and will wait for the comments of other people to your and my points of view. So, use a moment, you may post your offensive words and other ways of manipulations in this discussion and even then I will not comment it.
Hey Doom, just one thing buddie, you can call the guy an idiot if you wish, I understand this is a heated debate, but don't blast on him for his English skills. It's QUITE obvious it's not his first language, yet he's doing a decent job of getting his point across. Stuff like calling you a boy, he probably doesn't realize the context of what it means, he just knows boy = male. So keep the debate based on the arguments of what is plausible rather than ad-hominem (personal) attacks. I'd also like to point out that there are likely inconsistencies within the storyline. Marius is dead, and Blizzard probably just used him as a way of both telling the story and having him give up the soulstone to Baal at the end. Their future lore for D3 and beyond is likely not hinging too much on the cogency and coherence of Marius' journey as the Wanderer's partner.
But it's a very interesting debate. I really had no idea why he followed the Wanderer, and it appears there's no real explanation.
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Rogue Monastery != Eastern Gate and
Eastern Gate == Monastery Gate
The entire caravans with its camels and vagons couldn’t pass through a Monastery. Rogue Monastery is a place in the Eastern (Monastery) Gate's vicinity, and that gate was controlling by the Sisterhood. There is no reason for the Rogues to allow outside people to hang about their ancestral monastery.
Your speculations are founded on the speculations of Deckard Cain who didn’t witness summonning of Andariel. You yourself know the Prime Evils was exiled by Lesser Evils, So Diablo is a master of Andariel no more. So Diablo couldn’t even hope that Lesser Evils would agree to help them. Obviously, Andariel and Duriel was tired of internal conflicts of ignorant Belial and Azmodan and realized that they should help Prime Evils to return. Andariel and Duriel have fought the Three because they were indignant of stopping of the Great Conflict, no more. Of course, all Rogues hardly have a great discussion in order to decide to summon a demoness. But there is no obstacles for doing it either one/two rogues, or by Andariel herself without any help of the mortals. Were the Rogues summoned demoness or not it is not important. In adition, By assuming you own words, Hero of Tristram have lost himself after summoning Andariel.
I can’t say that your speculations are not logical, and you also can’t say that MY speculations are not logical. Also you can’t say that logical speculations are truthfull, but you can say that logical speculations may (have a chance to) be truthfull. Your logical speculations can’t solve that great contradictions in the plot, but it can give a lot of meaningless and small contradictions to MY speculations. On the contrary, my logical speculations can solve the great contradictions in the plot and it is easier to decline some small flaws in my 'theory' in order to solve the great contradictions. And all your great and considerable arguments I have already disproved and you didn’t comment it.
Your speculations present Marius as a brave and stubborn die-hearted passed through a great and/or dangerous obstacles in his way (sea, jungles, entering and escaping Durance of Hatred and etc.). Of course, you didn’t say that Marius is a brave and volitional man, but WHAT you didn’t say (or intentionally avoided) is a logical conclusions I made from your speculations. So stop posting such an indignant words as “WHERE?! WHERE I said…” or “Did I say…” What you didn’t say is the contradictions in your speculation you can’t explain.
By saying “May I guess, my stubborness is a quality you don't have, isn't it?” I mean that you are also stubborn, according to your fanatical desire to disprove my point of view, my speculations with a help of your way of logical speculations and conclusions.
By saying “These are the words of who are loosing” I mean that you should calm yourself and stop offending me. A presence of your negative emotions in your posts and your insulting confirm that you fear smth., and feel uncertainty. These are the actions of a hesitating person.
By saying “I'm enjoying of your hot temper.” I mean that I guessed your uncertainty because of a presence of your negative emotions in your posts. In such a way you can’t keep any constructive discussion.
You’re trying to pick a mote out from my eye while there is a huge log in you eye. Since now I will refrain from further commenting your supercilious and emotional posts and will wait for the comments of other people to your and my points of view. So, use a moment, you may post your offensive words and other ways of manipulations in this discussion and even then I will not comment it.
But it's a very interesting debate. I really had no idea why he followed the Wanderer, and it appears there's no real explanation.