help me with items

  • #1
    ive read the thread about cm/ww build and i have a couple more questions due to my budget (27 mil).
    1) for weapon do i need chantodo? or find a dagger? do i need l/s?
    i do already know that if i get chantodo wepaong i need to get o/h as well and if i get a dagger i need triumvariate.
    2) i cant decide about the helm. between tal rasha (for crit, o/s) stormcrow (cant find one with crit + o/s) or mempo. obvioulsy i cant afford mempo with crit.
    3) should i get inna's temperence pants or use that sole for all res/int/vit?

    im def getting witching hour, i already have tal chest peice (9 ias), goin with zuni boots or ice climbers. but i read about the nat set and may look into that if i fall short with cc.

    o and has blizz said anything about a nef coming? thanks!!!!
  • #2
    1) You don't need Chantodo's. A dagger with IAS will do for the start. If you want to get to higher APS and can afford the offhand, Chantodo's is a very nice choice, but with your budget I don't think you'll get a decent weapon + OH (at least not on EU servers).

    Do you mean life steal with l/s? No, you don't need LS, but LoH. Go for pants/amulet/Storm Crow, wherever it fits best with regard to current gear and budget. Don't get LoH on weapon, the slot is better used for a socket (DPS) or IAS (better stunlock).

    2) I personally go fine even MP10 with a Mempo. This is the one slot where I skip crit. However, if you lack LoH and/or APoC, Storm Crow is a good choice. Tal Rasha is also not that bad, though in my opinion it's horribly overpriced and I personally prefer Mempo or Andariel's because the IAS is something that you want to stick to in the long run on that slot.

    3) Inna's pants cost you waaaaaay too much EHP. The #1 pants for every CMWW wizard is Blackthorne's: gives you a shitload of EHP, LoH, and a possible neat setbonus. If you're asking about LoH, buy a Blackthorne pants. Especially since you go for a WH, you lose a lot of potential EHP on the belt slot in favor of IAS.

    If you get Zuni boots, Chantodo's weapon kind of makes no sense (Zuni's damage bonus does only give a small percentage of bonus DPS because Chantodo's weapon has fire damage). I would go for the Natalya set, skip CC on helm and go for a Mempo, and Blackthorne's pants. You can get all this for not too much money and still have something left to upgrade other slots if you want to.

    Don't worry about the nerf. Yes, Blizzard will definitely at some point do something about CMWW, because let's face it - it's ridiculous that you can go turn extremely difficult uber fights on MP10 into EZmode just for a few million with one specific skill set. However, they won't completely disable the way of how CMWW works. They'll make the necessary changes, nothing else.
  • #3
    Completely agree with Bagstone.

    On a side note, Storm Crow only rolls with 1 random affix, so you can either get Crit, a socket, or something like all resist. The APoC and LoH are all base, as is the 90-100 for each stat, the bonus damage vs elites, and the 7-8% lightning damage.

    I prefer starting with a high IAS dagger + APoC triumvirate and aim for the 2.5 APS breakpoint since that should give higher dps than using Chanto combo. Combine it with a Storm Crow for the 2nd APoC piece. As said above, you can get sufficient crit on the rest of your gear and neglect it on your helm if you want extra EHP or XP. Also, the black dagger will increase the dps gains from your storm crow, compared to the chanto set, and also makes Zuni boots more appealing. I eventually switched to Nats boots+ring though, for the high damage mitigation and the IAS/Crit of the ring+2pc bonus. I have no idea how much they cost on the EU AH though.
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  • #4
    I havent checked the eu recently for triumvirate but last time i did even the mediocre ~200 avg dmg with apoc where like 10mil. :o You can get a decent chanto main and offhand for the same amount of gold required for a dagger/triumvirate which is preferable imo.
  • #5
    Quote from Bagstone

    If you get Zuni boots, Chantodo's weapon kind of makes no sense (Zuni's damage bonus does only give a small percentage of bonus DPS because Chantodo's weapon has fire damage). I would go for the Natalya set, skip CC on helm and go for a Mempo, and Blackthorne's pants. You can get all this for not too much money and still have something left to upgrade other slots if you want to.

    Even mediocre nats boots and a ring are 30% of his budget. I guess a bit more since eu servers are expensive compared to us. A decent rare ring with +5% crit, 7ias and int with res or vit is like 2mil. Decent boots arent much more expensive...Its way cheaper to get more res on the whole set and using crit chance rune on energy armor then buying 2pc nats with int rolls.

    Regarding the blackthorn pants. Yes they are nice BUT you need to spend alot of gold for good rolled blackthorns to beat cheap rare pants. Blackthorns are so popular since its an easy piece of gear to get loh from. And much cheaper then searchig for a good amulet with loh on top...
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