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Well this was disappointing.

No increased uptime because micro management is "fun" and you can just waste a mediocre rune and passive for very little reward

Perma invul is gone (which is a good thing) but the only planned change to blood set is longer charge duration. Its still a lot of tradeoff for very little payout.

No 7 or more set pieces and i'm imagining none of the set pieces are moving to non-traditional slots because dipping into a 2-4piece is for every other class not this one.

The team didn't go into 2-3-4 person rifts because knowing the meta is too much effort.

And the plague set has very little to do with disease but because Websters Thesaurus was down they could not think of a synonym for death and bone was already taken.

This is like the 3rd Necro QA. Althought it was probably meatier then the proceeding two...it was still very disappointing.

does it bother anyone that blizzard is more often than not seemingly incapable to make changes to their own game? it seems they have lost the power of their tools or don't have anyone with knowledge of stuff made by replaced / left people. examples:

• Rewards for set dungeons will be two pennants. The Necromancer won't interact with old achievements for set dungeons. So you won't have to complete Necromancer dungeons for the wings. why not? in WoW, you had an achievement where you needed to get X chars to level XX. after the following expansion, it was the new max level. incentive for updating the achievement: do it before the necro hits, after that we change it. i see no problem there.

• There will be no Iron Golem from D2. Would have been a big challenge, and taken player interaction away from gameplay, and would have been on items instead. Just didn't feel like a good fit. what isn't a good fit here? where is the big challenge for a major AAA studio? what is taken away from the gameplay? how about you gather legendaries like you always do, receive a massive twohander and have an UI like the cube. you have a list of all the weapons / armor / shields / basically everything you allow to be molded with the golem, you have three slots (weapons are arms and push the damage of the golem, his torso is armor and that nice piece of primal ancient armor you just got may bolster the defense of you golem and the third slot may be some new item or a fetish you can wield for yourself or just dangle it onto your golem) and slotted items may or may not trigger associated legendary powers. that way you can customize your golem for solo, group, rift or greater rift, you can influence the power of the golem and maybe it can reflect the slotted items (items, not "learnt" items like in the cube) on the model. is that something i would like if i had a necro? yes, why not?

• While it would be interesting to revive your allies, there are no current plans to implement it. because blizzard never thought about that as an option. WoW did let a death knight revive someone as a ghoul and scrapped that later because the people couldn't handle it very well. let a necro revive his party members as a random undead and let them wreak havoc for a minute with increased stats, damage and a replaced toolbar before returning to their normal characters. it could very well function as a damage buff with the prerequisite of dying first. as for hardcore players: while a necro with the skill ready is present during your death in a rift, you are allowed to be revived since it is in the boundaries of the necro fantasy. could be tweaked to prevent abuse, but this should work.

• Necromancer sets won't have seven or more pieces. Sets are meant to feel powerful on their own, and when you combine then, they just blur together. i've said it here time and time again: sets suck. you are nothing without a set and upon receiving a full set (i.e. with haedrig's help) you just craft a good enough weapon and finally can do something on your own. and to my first thought about blizzard not having the control over their own game: do some other slots as set slots, jeez. you should be able to do it and you should be able to think how to make it work in the game without breaking it!

• The team didn't go into designing the Necromancer with 2-3-4 person rifts in mind. They just went with what you would expect to find from the Necromancer. Curses, pets, blood, and bone! They want it to be flexible. so i am dead weight? oh, and a lot of people expected, you know, poison.

and what about the pricing? still nothing on that, huh? they really, really try to avoid that because they WILL want 15$+ for the pack. everything above 20 will cause a big shitstorm. oh man, they can't really win with this character, can they?

Still no mention of price. The guesses seem to get higher as the release draws closer. Sooo, to curb expectations on the consumer I shall offer a freshly printed 5$.

Price is most likely going to be $20. $15 as part of some promotion.

I am just after the extra space for char and stash, would purchase multiple times if I could.

Think they will increase the max stash tabs to 12 if you buy the pack?

You'll get 2 additional stash tabs with the pack. If you already have 10, then yes, you should be at 12.

Their lack of imagination with Iron Golem is troubling. They could have had a raised Iron Golem gain the ability of a legendary used on it, could have had set items lower that set need by 1 for the necromancer, and it could have given us an outlet for all the legendaries we find.

They Golem wouldn't need to be redesigned, raise one in a GR and it only lasts for that GR, everything could be the same skill wise.

Question - if you use the thing that gives your pets your thorns (can't remember what it was, a passive?) does that scale with the pet set so they all get super powerful thorns?

I still think all those long cooldown short duration skills that the necro has look very boring in a fast paced game, and I'm a bit shocked that they think that % damage "is the same as a big damage skill" or didn't see the broken ass invulnerability coming.

I'll buy it and try it out so job done by the devs I guess, but Blizz has lost a ton of goodwill for their future games with how little they've invested into developing Diablo.

Since there's likely a high number of players who own both World of Warcraft and Diablo 3, I'm willing to bet the farm that the Necro pack will cost $15 since you can now trade your wowtokens for 15 BlizzardBucks.

As for the Necromancer? The potential was there but there's only so much you can do with a busted game and a skeleton development crew at this point. Not only is it taking waaaay too long but it also feels like they're somehow cutting corners along the way.

I still didn´t had the chance to try play the PTR yet :/

Long ago I suggested some items that would grant an additional slot in Kanai's cube, like a Severed WD head that allowed you to equip one more "Helm" based power, pants or belts for Demon Hunters wich granted an additional "Quiver" slot or a Barb items that allowed him to "switch" weapon effects when using Weapon Throw. It would had been perfect for an Iron Golem mechanic, equip the legendary items you wanted and voila....or granting your weapon wielding pets legendary weapons effects and such (but only on hit effects like Thunderfury).

I'm more angry however at the lack of Fire spells. The 4 element of physical creation for rathma were earth (blightish?), Metal (bone?), Flesh (blood!) and Fire...which has nothing. We could had had brittle but sharp bone spells, choking ash, blood cauterization, detonating corpse gasses...

Or the lack of Bone Wall...a passive, impearmeable wall to contrast with WOD...rune effects could had been Bone Prison (instead of the passive), consuming chunks of the ball to empower bone spells (kinda like the one in the release trailer), or have your Command Skeletons man it or fuse with it to add active damage to it.

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• While it would be interesting to revive your allies, there are no current plans to implement it. because blizzard never thought about that as an option. WoW did let a death knight revive someone as a ghoul and scrapped that later because the people couldn't handle it very well. let a necro revive his party members as a random undead and let them wreak havoc for a minute with increased stats, damage and a replaced toolbar before returning to their normal characters. it could very well function as a damage buff with the prerequisite of dying first. as for hardcore players: while a necro with the skill ready is present during your death in a rift, you are allowed to be revived since it is in the boundaries of the necro fantasy. could be tweaked to prevent abuse, but this should work.

Chat thought, and I agreed, this was the dumbest (not already answered) question ever. Aside from the obvious balance issues. it's not a whole lot of fun to not be able to control your character...because the necromancer has revived it.

the whole hype and QA bullshit of the necro is a waste of time. It just comes down to which set does the most damage and may as well remove the other 80% of the necro's skills from the game. I haven't even looked at the necro skills, I have no idea what the class does, and yet I'll just go to the set notes and see "increases X damage by 1600%". great, now I know how to play the fucking class.

fuck this game

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Quote from head0r»

• While it would be interesting to revive your allies, there are no current plans to implement it. because blizzard never thought about that as an option. WoW did let a death knight revive someone as a ghoul and scrapped that later because the people couldn't handle it very well. let a necro revive his party members as a random undead and let them wreak havoc for a minute with increased stats, damage and a replaced toolbar before returning to their normal characters. it could very well function as a damage buff with the prerequisite of dying first. as for hardcore players: while a necro with the skill ready is present during your death in a rift, you are allowed to be revived since it is in the boundaries of the necro fantasy. could be tweaked to prevent abuse, but this should work.

Chat thought, and I agreed, this was the dumbest (not already answered) question ever. Aside from the obvious balance issues. it's not a whole lot of fun to not be able to control your character...because the necromancer has revived it.

you read what i wrote, right? you die, you get revived and get a damage buff. you don't mindlessly run after your master, you get another skillbar like the archon.

Heh, the most interesting for me is the price, which they do not want share too soon. I'm affraid that if they say about pennants, pets, frames, spaces on every opportunity they will want to charge more than expected for the product. The truth is that all additional stuff is worth literally nothing, it is just there... the only thing that most people want to try is Necro itself. I look forward to check gameplay if the price is good. I assume we will know everything at the end of June when S11 will likely start.

PS: hope the price will be $15 tops. But after all this additional content hard on 30$ is more likely...

I wonder whats gonna happen with players that haven't got 10 tabs yet. For example if a player has 6 tabs + 2 necro = 8 tabs. Does that player gonna be able to reach 12 tabs later ,or it going to stuck on 10 .. ?