Firebird's Finery Hotfix Live

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Firebird's Finery Hotfix Live

Nevalistis released info about a hotfix for the Firebird's Finery bug that allowed players to use Brawling to keep the set's stacks from falling off. The fix is already, and she also explained why sometimes what determines whether these are fixed by patches or hotfixes.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We will be releasing a hotfix shortly to prevent an unintended interaction with Firebird's Finery and Brawling.

Some of you may be aware that when changing the live game, some changes are done as a hotfix and other fixes wait until a future patch. Sometimes the decision is clear, sometimes it’s more complicated. This particular change falls on the hotfix side of the fence. Aside from technical reasons (in which some require patches while others can be hotfixed), there are several factors we examine when we consider issuing a hotfix.

First, how much of an advantage does the bug give?

Second, how likely is it that someone will trigger this bug unintentionally? Is it common that someone will perform it by accident?

How likely is this bug to impact the performance of players on the leaderboard for the length of the Season?

Looking at all these factors for this particular case we've determined that there is very little chance for accidental use, and it's early enough that resolving this immediately won't result in stale or unbeatable leaderboards for the rest of the Season.

We advise against making use of this bug. As in the past, we will be taking a look on a case by case basis to determine if any action is necessary.

The following hotfix is now live:

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Fixed an issue where the benefits from Firebird's Finery could persist after leaving a Brawl (8/17) (source)

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Posted Aug 18, 2016
it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

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Posted Aug 18, 2016
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it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.

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Posted Aug 18, 2016
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it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.
Tell me about it man.. it's one of those moments where you say "I'm not even mad. That's amazing". I didn't even know anyone who actually use the Brawling section of the game.

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
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it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.
You should look at some glitches people use in other games for speed running. It's like "if I jump at this spot in this wall four times outside the first door then on level 3 I will now be able to slide through a block and save ten minutes" (Mario 64 and Super Mario World coming to mind.) How in the hell do people find things like this.

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
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it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.

Tell me about it man.. it's one of those moments where you say "I'm not even mad. That's amazing". I didn't even know anyone who actually use the Brawling section of the game.
asian players. They will find anything. They will test everything.

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
I am Asian and I've found nothing

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I am Asian and I've found nothing

are you sure you are asian? maybe not 100% haha j/k

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
Forgive me father, I have let my family down *seppukuuuu*

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
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Quote from cromartie »

it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.

tbh, testing is why some builds come up. Only going to diablofans and copying a build and mindlessly playing the game is ok. It's not my cup of tea.
There are several minor bugs or mechnanics that can be abused to your advantage. I don't call this cheating. In case of this topic right here, yeah it's too obvious that it's not intended and it gives a huge advantage.

I'm still wondering if I'm getting banned again for using the combustion rune on archon for my speedfarm build to proc the fire rasha stack (probably not since alot of wizard using the vyr/rasha speedfarm build this season). It's clearly a minor bug that even after giving feedback to Blizzard haven't changed this patch. So I'm using it. Is it cheating? I would say no. But you never know what Blizzard decides.

Last Season you were allowed to used a very impactful bug (firebug build), this Season you are not. I think it's pretty clear that the playerbase in general are clueless what they may or may not use.

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Posted Aug 19, 2016
some day they are just going to scrap firebirds altogether i swear. How many seasons has that set had issues? season 8 we will just expect it at this point and when its not bugged/broken we will complain!

Its the only set that has gone through so much changes, fixes, hotfixes its crazy. Its not even that complicated a mechanic, at least to the players, internally idk why they havent dug deeper to make it not have issues like it keeps having.

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it's amazing how the cheaters will stop at nothing....

The amazing part is that people find these things at all. To this day I've never ran across a bug that was game changing. I always end up with a "oh i died to this random thing that i had no control over, that's cool" or "wtf am i looking at, what just happened" lol the internet is a amazing place and the stuff people can come up with or find is mind boggling at times.

tbh, testing is why some builds come up. Only going to diablofans and copying a build and mindlessly playing the game is ok. It's not my cup of tea.
There are several minor bugs or mechnanics that can be abused to your advantage. I don't call this cheating. In case of this topic right here, yeah it's too obvious that it's not intended and it gives a huge advantage.

I'm still wondering if I'm getting banned again for using the combustion rune on archon for my speedfarm build to proc the fire rasha stack (probably not since alot of wizard using the vyr/rasha speedfarm build this season). It's clearly a minor bug that even after giving feedback to Blizzard haven't changed this patch. So I'm using it. Is it cheating? I would say no. But you never know what Blizzard decides.

Last Season you were allowed to used a very impactful bug (firebug build), this Season you are not. I think it's pretty clear that the playerbase in general are clueless what they may or may not use.

I think it's a thin line between a "clever use of game mechanics" and "cheating" using a split set to gain an advantage to me wouldn't be cheating, several classes have the ability to wear parts of more than one set to gain a weird bonus. Now if you were able to use that set and speed clear gr100 then maybeeeee it would raise an eyebrow or two.

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Posted Aug 21, 2016
I have talked about the combusion bug on archon that grants a tal stack (even if you stack lightning, cold or arcane % what should give all archon abilities the responsive elemental dmg while using vyr 2 piece).

The ability to combine 4/6 sets is pretty much intended I would say

The class doesnt matter. They should obviously know that this is possible

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