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Closed Beta Players - "One of the Chosen" Feat of Strength
It looks like people who were invited into the closed beta will be getting a feat of strength along with a unique sigil after logging in for the first time.
Originally Posted by Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
(In celebration of a successful beta test, all players who were invited to participate in the Diablo III closed beta will receive the commemorative Feat of Strength, "One of the Chosen." For eligible players, this feat will appear automatically in the Feat of Strength list after logging in for the first time as well as unlock a unique sigil that can be used on character banners.
In order to be eligible for "One of the Chosen," you must have had a Diablo III closed beta license attached to your Battle.net account (it isn't necessary to have downloaded or logged into the beta itself). Please note that players who participated only in the Open Beta Weekend, but were not invited to the closed beta, will not receive this Feat of Strength.
In order to be eligible for "One of the Chosen," you must have had a Diablo III closed beta license attached to your Battle.net account (it isn't necessary to have downloaded or logged into the beta itself). Please note that players who participated only in the Open Beta Weekend, but were not invited to the closed beta, will not receive this Feat of Strength.
Wait what? How are people that find joy in collecting all the sigils, and find joy in having all those little things (even if you don't care about them) elitists?
Im sorry but you're turning the argument in a 180 direction that has nothing to do with the topic trying to make it look like something its not.
once in game, its all about random. So what if only 1% of the people have rare X. Those other 99% of people, CAN still get it through farming or heck, even the RMAH. the option is there.
Blizzard has never done anything like this before in a beta, and I 100% feel for every person that is now left out of something they really wanted to collect. No matter how much work they put into something there was never a way for them to get it, that kind of sucks for them.
Just because you may not understand why they want it. Or you may not agree with why they want it, does not matter. They have their reasons, it and matters to them.
They could have advertised it like, "Opt in for a chance to get in the beta. Those that get in will receive a sigil and Feat of Strength for participating, so be sure to visit our various fansites and participate in their contests to increase your chances of getting in! Good luck everyone!"
I think things could have been handled better is all. Had we known about this from the very beginning instead of them springing it on everyone less than a week before launch, individuals may feel differently about how things turned out. Maybe? I dunno.
It is still a sigil that not everyone will get to unlock. There were plenty of non-luck ways of getting into the Beta. From twitter, from fan sites, from attending pax east and signing up at the Blizzard booth. You are arbitrarily drawing a line in the sand just because it comes from the Beta rather then another source.
That is illogical and shows how elistist they think they are. Just because they think they are some super fan the deserve every single reward ever given.
Having Class sigils not unlockable after the 8th is just as unfair as having Closed Beta sigils as a reward. Why? Because it excludes people because they didn't meet the requirements. Why does being a hardcore fan make you deserving of everything?
Do you even read your own posts? You said the Hardcore fans are deserving of every reward because they are hardcore fans. That is textbook elitism.
And how could they really want to collect it, if they never knew it existed? If they never even had the chance to collect it?
Not at all, even with all the keys out there. There was still a VERY limited number compared to how many people wanted in the beta. The class unlock sigils have no end in how many people can get them. If they were following the game, then they got them.
I know for a fact I did not say they were deserving of every reward. It was being locked out of something even though they were as much as a fan as anyone here (saying we are all hardcore fans) is what I was referring to.
Also, I agree noone a month from now that is new will have any idea what these are, and thats fine. The issue is people DO know what these are right now.
Right there "you didn't get it in time" . Meaning they had control, They could have rushed and beat the others to it. It was their own fault.
(You could use that same argument I guess with Keys I guess, but people tried their butts off for those.)
A lot of people slacked on CE's and lost out. But they had the chance is the point.
The class Sigils end on the 8th. Anyone after the 8th no matter how big of a fan they are will not be able to get them. How is that fair? You keep changing the parameters for what is fair. First it was because people are excluded. Then it become Hardcore fans are excluded. And now the sole factor in when it is right to excluded people from rewards is "If they followed the game before it launched".
Why is it okay for the line to be drawn at "Following the game before launch" but not at "was in the beta" or any other number of requirements for rewards that Blizzard will have over the years of Dialbo 3's life. Why do hardcore fans or any fan that followed the game before launch mean more then new fans? Or people that missed the week you could unlock them all?
Not everyone has access to a computer 24/7 and might miss out on the sigil's despite following the game for years or being a hardcore fan.
And they had a chance at Beta keys. Both in a lottery from Blizzard and Fan sites. And in non-lottery forms from Blizzard and several fan sites. You are creating a double standard for beta vs CE rewards.
Because people can control if they were following the game before launch. A lot of people couldn't control if they got into the beta. Even after trying multiple contest.
LOL what? You know you don't have to agree with me, I don't care. There is nothing wrong with debating.
However, to everyone following the game, beta invites were outside of their personal power to influence. To the fans of the game, you fell into 2 categories. Those with beta invites and those without. You could help tilt the scales in your favor ever so slightly by participating in fansite contests and events, but ultimately the beta handouts were completely random and out of the fan's hands.
That's the difference between the 2. In one category, fans had direct control over whether they get their reward or not. In the other category, fans had very little to no control whatsoever.
So now its control? Why should all fans get every reward? Why should someone that wants to get something be able to get it? You keep changing the logic you are using and applying it to different cases of the same situation. If the fan deserves the Beta sigil now, why don't they deserve to get the Inferno sigil just because they are a fan?
Exclusive rewards by their very nature mean exclusive. CE, Mark of Valor, and Beta are all the same exact situations of exclusive rewards that exclude some people. They exclude people in different ways but they all have the chance of excluding fans. The problem is that you are creating entirely arbitrary rules for what is proper and what is not. Even when those rules conflict with themselves.
Aight, aight. I get it. Someone be RIGHT on da internets, n' it ain't dem. Props dawg, props.
It's a good topic. B+
But why is someone entilted to something just because they are a Fan? Why aren't they entilted to CE rewards? They didn't have direct control over how many copies Blizzard Allocated for their country or local store. Pre-ordering earlier could have got them one, but same thing with Beta and winning a fansite contest.
This all comes down to elitism and entitlement. Why can't their be exclusive rewards? Why must everyone get everything just because?
That had nothing to do with them being fans tho. Change fans to "people" and the point is still there
[Im replying to your other post still, give me a min]
It's not that they should be entitled because they are a fan. That's not the point. It's rather that people should be able to have direct influence over the in game rewards they receive. I can respect fans that don't care about and choose to not go after the rewards. However, the few that want said rewards but have no means of obtaining them regardless of how much they may want them, that's what bothers me and that's what I'm debating.
They had direct control. They had to choose to opt-in and choose to enter contests. Just because not every wins doesn't mean they don't have control. It also doesn't mean that everyone has to win when not every can win in order to be fair. The thing is though that not every person has the right to those rewards so it doesn't matter how much they might want them. They don't have a right to them just because they are fans.
A lottery is fair because it gives the same chances to everyone that enters. A lottery doesn't become unfair just because it gives a reward out to people that win but not to everyone that entered. Could Blizzard have given it out to everyone? Sure. Could they have done open beta too? Sure. Is it unfair, or is anyone cheated out of a reward? Nope.
How can you honestly sit there and type that? There's hundreds of thousands of people that wanted into the closed beta that didn't get in. No matter how much they tried, regardless of the competitions they participated in, no matter what they could have done, it was out of their hands. They did not have 'direct' control and barely even had a means of influencing the randomization.