Undocumented 1.13b Patch Notes

By Sixen Feb 24, 2010
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Once again, there are undocumented patch notes which are semi important. The Charge-lock and Leap-lock bugs have been common issues for years now.

Official Blizzard Quote:

Two changes did not make it into the 1.13b patch notes:

- Fixed an issue where the Paladin's Charge ability would become locked out if Holy Shield faded while charging.
- Fixed an issue where the Barbarian's Leap ability could become locked out if they were hit while leaping.

In addition, the Rune Drop rates have been increased by 4x again. The 1.13a drop rates were increased as follows:

Mal/ Ist: 1.45x
Gul/ Vex: 1.78x
Ohm/ Lo: 2.3x
Sur/ Ber: 2.98x
Jah/ Cham/ Zod: 4.0x

With 1.13b, all rune drop rates were increased by 4x their original. Meaning all lower, mid, and high runes. The new increases for the high runes are as follows:

Mal/ Ist: 5.8x
Gul/ Vex: 7.12x
Ohm/ Lo: 9.2x
Sur/ Ber: 11.92x
Jah/ Cham/ Zod: 16.0x
All other runes have received a 4x increase.

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mahamoti
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Posted Feb 24, 2010
With such insane drop rates I'm almost tempted to whip up a new char and try out ye olde D2 again...

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
So they fixed Charge lock...but they didn't fix Charge glitch. So now pallys are even more free to Clag it up, great.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
But of course

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
If they just made it so it was more visible, or atleast make the hammers visible then it wouldn't be that big of an issue, but when you got some kid just charging around and spamming invis hammers hoping 1 hits you it is kinda annoying.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
wow

I liked the increase in the rune drop rates. Maybe it's possible now to make RW in SP.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
Quote from "italofoca" »
wow

I liked the increase in the rune drop rates. Maybe it's possible now to make RW in SP.

Yeah that would be great. How much of a difference is this increase actually going to be? Since the original Zod drops were near impossible, this change might still make them really really rare...

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
If they keep changes like this coming ill regain faith in there legacy team!!!

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
Quote from "vladdracul" »
So they fixed Charge lock...but they didn't fix Charge glitch. So now pallys are even more free to Clag it up, great.

Charge Glitch? Do tell.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
Can someone do the math on what the current droprate for the high runes is with these changes?

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
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Charge Glitch? Do tell.

Put Vigor on right click skill, put charge on left click skill, hold shift and charge with vigor activated and you guy will move so fast that they will appear and dissapear in different parts of the map, essentially they are moving so fast you can't see them till they stop moving. While they are doing this they spam hammers between stops and pray one hits you. They even have a third party program that does this all with 1 button.
As far as I was concerned charge lock helped stop these builds because they would have to rejoin to fix their charge, but now they have no consequence to doing it.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
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Can someone do the math on what the current droprate for the high runes is with these changes?

Still ridiculously small for Zod and the likes I wager. Previously you have a 1 in 82721 of getting a Zod whenever the Zod treasureclass was picked, so now it's... 1 in 20.680

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Just take this:

Mal/Ist: 5.8x
Gul/Vex: 7.12x
Ohm/Lo: 9.2x
Sur/Ber: 11.92x
Jah/Cham/Zod: 16.0x
Then take the old results and multiply them by these results I think this should do the trick. Or am I wrong?

yeah, i don't know the original droprates and figured someone who did know them would get the results quicker than me searching for the droprate on each then doing the math. the math isnt the hard part, the finding the droprates is what would take some time.
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Posted Feb 24, 2010
good news
more hr drop rates haha
any chance the barb concentration dmg increase?

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
YAY! More runes! Might be tempted to actually think about rune hunting and getting something more than a Jah rune this time around. The only runeword I ever really used was the Amazon's runeword, I think it was Peace, and never thought about getting other words going because of the crap drop rates, obviously.

@vladdracul - I can confirm this for people who HAVEN'T seen this trick. I've done it on SP and with about 40% faster movement speed on gear my pally looks like he can beat most rocket cars in a race, it's that fast. Without speed increases, besides Vigor at its first level, the game can actually track the Pally's movement. Increases of any kind make it so Paladin's virtually have their own teleport. That's why when I play D2, I always have 2 pallies - one that's Vengeance/Zeal and one that's Charge/Vigor/Hammer.

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Quote from "CrazyCapnMorgan" »

@vladdracul - I can confirm this for people who HAVEN'T seen this trick. I've done it on SP and with about 40% faster movement speed on gear my pally looks like he can beat most rocket cars in a race, it's that fast. Without speed increases, besides Vigor at its first level, the game can actually track the Pally's movement. Increases of any kind make it so Paladin's virtually have their own teleport. That's why when I play D2, I always have 2 pallies - one that's Vengeance/Zeal and one that's Charge/Vigor/Hammer.

Yep, pretty much. I really don't have a quarrel with them moving that fast, but they shouldn't be able to spam attacks at the same time, or atleast their attacks shouldn't turn invisible too.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
Maybe it's me or mabye it's something to do with my comp, but when I used Magic Hammer in conjuction with those skills, my Hammers were never invisible. Though, I've not played on-line D2 so, just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. My solution to this - maximum speed cap. Make it so at some point, all characters, regardless of speed increases, travel at a certain max speed and fix Charges to a point where they travel at a certain speed.

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Posted Feb 24, 2010
Well you can see your own hammers on your screen. Other people cannot though.

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Quote from "DesmondTiny" »
Well you can see your own hammers on your screen. Other people cannot though.

Yep, correct!

Quote from "CrazyCapnMorgan" »
Maybe it's me or mabye it's something to do with my comp, but when I used Magic Hammer in conjuction with those skills, my Hammers were never invisible. Though, I've not played on-line D2 so, just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. My solution to this - maximum speed cap. Make it so at some point, all characters, regardless of speed increases, travel at a certain max speed and fix Charges to a point where they travel at a certain speed.

The whole point of the charge glitch (aka desynching) is that you know where your own position is. But you are going so fast that other people can't keep up, so they are essentially attacking the position that they perceive, but you are long gone by then. =P

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The drop rates I listed ARE the new drop rates. The quotes were from the 1.13a announcement, those were from 1.13a. The ones without the quotes, where it says, "the new drop rates are as follows" come before the new drop rates, :X.

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Quote from "traderjoes" »
The whole point of the charge glitch (aka desynching) is that you know where your own position is. But you are going so fast that other people can't keep up, so they are essentially attacking the position that they perceive, but you are long gone by then. =P

Well then, I'm thankful I don't play on-line. Unfortunately, the monsters and demons don't seem to have that problem.

But at least I got my fried chicken...

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