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Quote from "Bhaal" »

Unless they have most of the new energy source systems worked out by now then i get a feeling that we wont see this in 2010. By worked out i mean they have atleast some or most of them functioning by now.

i think you've been out of the loop :(... we won't see d3 in 2010 at all. its going to be cataclysm and sc2.

We've stated that only the Witch Doctor is planned to use mana at this point in time

And who says they can't change this? Maybe they just haven't thought of something better.

Different systems for different chars, genious. IF they can make it work.

Hopefully they can figure out the item balancing issue that Bashiok mentioned in the same thread according to every character's energy type.

Bah, game still so far away I can't even be bothered to speculate on exactly how the Wizard's energy will work, although whoever said it may work like the DK in WoW may well be right. I was looking forward to good old fashioned mana, oh well.

And who says they can't change this? Maybe they just haven't thought of something better.

No one, I don't think :confused:

I agree that the wiz would feel better using mana and the WD using soul or whatever as their energy power, but since blizz said that the WD would be using mana, it leaves me excited to see what the wiz will use.

While working this graveyard shift at work I wrote down some simple ideas for what the wiz could use as their energy power. Basically, it's the DK rune system from WoW, but fitted for D3. Bear with me and my cheesy names.

They would have 1 or 2 'glyphs', depending on what would work better for the feel and pace of D3, at their disposal. 1 or 2 storm, arcane and conjure for each of their trees. Also, like the DK's rune system, they would have 'Mental Energy', at their disposal.

As they use a certain spell it would activate a glyph that would reward them with a certain ammount of Mental Energy. For a simplier spell such as an 'ice bolt' or a 'lighting bolt' (for lack of real spells) it would activate 1 of their glyphs and give them about 10 or so Mental Energy. Now, as spells become more complex and more powerful, the requirements to use them becomes more demanding. So, as you move to things like 'metoer' and 'chain lightning' it might cost 2 glyphs, like 1 storm and 1 conjure, and on top of the glyphs it could use Mental Energy. Even some spells could rely on just using only Mental Energy and have cooldowns on the spells to prevent excessive usage.

Just my thoughts, but I think that the DK's rune system would work well with the wiz for D3.

Or maybe even more of these types of glyphs, like five or so, and in addition to limiting what you can cast and when (and making you strategize) it could also increase damage, decrease enemy resistance, or increase cast rate or something if you cast a spell at a higher glyph level (in addition to allowing you to cast more complex spells).

I think the DK Rune system wouldn't be bad, though personally, you shouldn't have to "gain" your "Mental Power" (lets call it "MP" :P). Instead, MP should be the Wizard's version of mana.

I guess I just didn't like that part for the DK, but for that class, I guess its fine - however, for the Wizard, his basic power should be plentiful and available from the start of a fight.

Well, for certain one thing that I like about it not being based on Mana is that there may be a possibility that the Wizard won't have to horde potions or focus exclusively on gear which adds to Mana. That just seemed annoying in Diablo II, especially since the Sorceress didn't usually have a good melee back-up if she ran out of Mana, since it is in the nature of her builds and gear that benefits her skills to have melee-inept gear. As long as its sufficiently limited, a system which allows a Wizard to use spells at any time would be a good improvement, I think.

Quote from "Deathlot" »

The more I read the more I'm getting bored from Diablo III... I'll play it only to visit Ureh, Kehjistan, Aranoch and maybe Viz-Jun and Gea Kul and then press Delete...

and about the energy sources I don't really care they are making World of Diablocraft and you're gettin' exited o.O

Why does it bore you? Why do you not like variety in the game? How do you think this will negatively affect the game? What would your factual basis be?

....I agree that some things in the game are not quite fitting to the Diablo theme, but seriously, no matter how civilized I wanted to be here, you sound like nothing else but an anti-wow freak that must point out every little resemblance between the two games as flaws, and then bash Blizzard with these really weak arguments.

You should consider looking at the game another way.

Quote from "Deathlot" »

and about the energy sources I don't really care they are making World of Diablocraft and you're gettin' exited o.O

Even if that was the case, we can be excited and enjoy anything we want. I don't get why close minded people, already hating the game, would bother posting in a forum like this, especially if thats what you have to add.

[quote=SFJake;491205 I don't get why close minded people, already hating the game, would bother posting in a forum like this, especially if thats what you have to add.[/quote]
agreed

Quote from "SFJake" »

I don't get why close minded people, already hating the game, would bother posting in a forum like this, especially if thats what you have to add.

agreed

I think that you should have to gain your MP. With my system layout you have to come into a battle starting with simple spells and as you continue using them you build up more MP as your glyphs refresh. When you get enough MP you can unleash a complex, powerful spell on whatever you're killing.

You saying that they should have glyphs and always have the MP, you could come into battle using complex, powerful spells. Then, assuming your MP would be regenerating, you can continue using those spells. Basically there would be no point to have the glyphs as you would never need to use simple spells.

@Seth, since quoting seems to be a pain on my phone. There would be 2 glyphs per tree. 6 total. I don't know if you meant 5 total or 5 per tree. But giving you buffs on top of it just being you source of energy would be to over powered, I would think.

@Seth, since quoting seems to be a pain on my phone. There would be 2 glyphs per tree. 6 total. I don't know if you meant 5 total or 5 per tree. But giving you buffs on top of it just being you source of energy would be to over powered, I would think.

Oh, I just meant that there would be more because it would allow the system to be more dynamic than just unlocking spells. If all it did was slow my gameplay by forbidding me from casting what I want to cast than I don't fully agree with you. If it, say, increased FCR as higher ones were reached, then gameplay would be faster and I think it would be more viable.

It isn't that I misunderstood what you were saying, I said I was adding to it

It'd be more contextual if the witch doctor uses the 'souls' of his vanquished enemies as an energy source and the wizard uses natural elements in his/ her surrounding environment (for e.g. fire, wind, water or even 'untainted' soil).

The differentiated energy sources may indeed pose balance issues but it sure will contribute towards making D3 the best game in the anthology.

So barbarian fury system is similar to Huskar's berserkers blood idea from Warcraft III's custom map DoTA

Do you guys remember that stat "willpower"? I'm guessing it is either one of the new energy sources, or, more likely a stat that will scale with different energy sources the classes have. But who knows.

The Barbarian having fury makes sense.

Doesn't matter what the other classes use, so long as it makes sense

Quote from "Turmobil" »

They changed the orbs into a ring with three sections. It looks pretty badass.

Praise Bhaal for that!!