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Man, everytime Bashiok farts we're gonna have a huge headline on the front page?
I feel starved.

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That's remotely nice to know..

Man, everytime Bashiok farts we're gonna have a huge headline on the front page?
I feel starved.

It's news. News and interesting articles go on the front page.

I don't think it will be too much of a problem either way. There will be a finite number of interactable environmental objects so once we can recognize them all they (monsters/jerks) won't be able to ambush us with them. Also, there must be a way to easily recognize them, otherwise, how would any one know to set them off?

That woudl be cool if mosnters used the envirment agaisnt you

It could be become similar to those fire shrines in Diablo 2, where some ass (me) would run up to them and activate them when his friends were on low life

Perhaps this is something that sounds cool but would be annoying as he said, i mean... do we really want monsters dropping chandeliers on us?

I don't know about game design but the extra calculations sound like lag in the making (for the monsters aiming at players with objects).

Don't know if it will work like that in game.
But having "smarter" monsters using the enviroment against you might be cool.
On the other way, some "brute" monsters might just go straight to you destroing everything in their path.
And always that "ogre" one that grabs a tree or a pillar to hit you.

Quote from "simon2909" »

Perhaps this is something that sounds cool but would be annoying as he said, i mean... do we really want monsters dropping chandeliers on us?

I don't know about game design but the extra calculations sound like lag in the making (for the monsters aiming at players with objects).

Man that's just being dumb. It's not that monsters will "throw" chandeliers on us but shit if your standing under a chandelier then your just asking for trouble or acting plain stupid. I think that if the player can use the environment then the monsters should logically be able to do the same. (If physically possible) Meaning I wouldn't picture a Zombie reaching the chandelier but if there was any type of magic using creature that aimed at you and accidentally hit it then it should fall or break. If a giant brute swung a huge club and hit a table it should splinter just as the barb's swing would make it do. In this way you really feel like its a breakable environment and a real battle. If giant creatures thrash and clobber and you have nothing but a breeze to indicate they did, I think it would detract immensely from the game's realism and feel.

I think a part of the game's epic feel should be the monsters, not only the hero. Yes, an epic hero is cool, but a cool hero fighting epic monsters (a la God of War) is even better. I hope blizzard won't be giving us another bunch of " Blunderbores". In case your not a D2 player, that was the highly anticipated gargantuan beast sporting a man's body as a club to beat the player down to pulp. Unfortunately turned more into a large Italian sausage that melted like butter as soon as you farted on it. The only indication that you were hit by one was the fact that your char would get slightly knocked back a few inches. It didn't do it justice by far....
:mad:

Now Blizzard actually has the technology and engine to make destructible environments. They should use it to make the monsters feel ...."Monstrous". It's as plain as that. Make the ground shake, make it splinter, break tables, walls, drop chandeliers. As long as I can break a sweat while I'm fighting then I'll know Blizz did a good job.

I can just imagine now playing co-op with my friend, untill he runs ahead and goes "SURPRISE!", and does some massive physical move that smashes a wall into me and kills me... (because as a noob i have low health :P)

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And about the chandeliers.. Couldn't you imagine a zombie running into a conveniently placed hook on the wall that was holding the thing up in the first place? Well thats what i was referring to anyway.

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Man that's just being dumb. It's not that monsters will "throw" chandeliers on us but shit if your standing under a chandelier then your just asking for trouble or acting plain stupid. I think that if the player can use the environment then the monsters should logically be able to do the same. (If physically possible) Meaning I wouldn't picture a Zombie reaching the chandelier but if there was any type of magic using creature that aimed at you and accidentally hit it then it should fall or break. If a giant brute swung a huge club and hit a table it should splinter just as the barb's swing would make it do. In this way you really feel like its a breakable environment and a real battle. If giant creatures thrash and clobber and you have nothing but a breeze to indicate they did, I think it would detract immensely from the game's realism and feel.

I think a part of the game's epic feel should be the monsters, not only the hero. Yes, an epic hero is cool, but a cool hero fighting epic monsters (a la God of War) is even better. I hope blizzard won't be giving us another bunch of " Blunderbores". In case your not a D2 player, that was the highly anticipated gargantuan beast sporting a man's body as a club to beat the player down to pulp. Unfortunately turned more into a large Italian sausage that melted like butter as soon as you farted on it. The only indication that you were hit by one was the fact that your char would get slightly knocked back a few inches. It didn't do it justice by far....
:mad:

Now Blizzard actually has the technology and engine to make destructible environments. They should use it to make the monsters feel ...."Monstrous". It's as plain as that. Make the ground shake, make it splinter, break tables, walls, drop chandeliers. As long as I can break a sweat while I'm fighting then I'll know Blizz did a good job.

I agree with this person 14372483% That would be amazing!!!

mattheo majik, well said :cool:

like i said before a long time ago... theres going to be armor that makes you immune to environmental damage.. and in hell mode theres going to be monsters immune to it as well:D

well this is only in my opinion no guaranteed facts....

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If they don't make this a part of the game it would be extremely lame. Falling walls kill zombies, but they go right through the player? Not good.

Yeah i totally agree, one thing that disturbed me in the demo was that they kinda walked right through some bricks. Though that was probably just a glitch, say if a wall fell on a player, will we have falling down animations?

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Yeah i totally agree, one thing that disturbed me in the demo was that they kinda walked right through some bricks.

Having him raise his feet a bit on the bricks requires pretty complex model position computations... I could live without it. It does look sloppy, but it's not an easy thing to integrate.

I was thinking more along the lines of the bricks moving away from you as you plow through them, but good point indeed.

it wud be so badass if your character could like pick up tables, chairs candles and like throw them at enemies LOL, that wud funnay..

I wonder... Is there Telekinesis as a skill in this one? I wonder if you can use it to do that. I think I actually read something like that somewhere... Dunno. But your character couldn't pick a thing up and swing it around since he/she has a weapon and/or a shield in his/her hands

You could almost imagine a skill that gravitates objects around you and hits monsters... almost.

this place has really slowed down