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You should be fine to drop some tankiness @ Ezelious,i can understand the want to play a thematic build as i personally do it with a fire build i'm very partial too. But you will probably hit a wall at around t3. i'd suggest making aughilds for bracers + chest and ashearas legs/boots which will give you some addition tankiness if you have the recipes and make it.

This would make it more comfortable for you to ease into strength gems. Also wrathful will give you some big heals using shield bash, so if you find that elites are the problem i'd switch renewal to it, because it's only really useful when you're fighting a big swarm of stuff.

Also really pleased at how this thread is going and how well it was received :). Thanks for taking the time to help each other out and bounce ideas around!

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"If you are playing holy you use shattering shield"

I'm just saying if you want high levels of AoE use shattering shield. That doesn't restrict you in anyway i personally play lighting spec but carry a holy set with jekangbord just for those situations. I didn't say "If you are playing holy you use shattering throw."....

Yes armor of the king regent stacks with golden scourage, i'd say it's not really worth it because if you are playing holy you have all the aoe you ever need with shattering throw. however if you lack aoe and are in lower torment say 1 or two you could probably make it work quite efficiently.

I'd say probably stick to your pledge.

Schaefer's with no strength or socket kinda hurts it. you can try out the proc to see if you like it because it does do a decent amount of damage with almost 100% up time.

Furnace is really damn good for higher torments, basically a weapon you use at the start of the fight because it deals current % damage definitely keep that thing handy. ( you probably don't notice the hits because they don't stand out or show up sometimes, i have one on my WD and it just gets lost in the DoT damage. )

Involiable Faith you need four people for it to really shine, i have one so i'll test right now if conc stacks and report back to you :).

- Can confirm it stacks, tested with my templar and w/o, double damage with his conc stacking with mine.

Can't believe i've never noticed that, thanks guys. 500 rifts then with 1 cow. the first level also had an event that said something a long the lines of "you had better milk it for all it's worth" and gave me like half a paragon level at paragon ~160

I have no idea how many rifts I've done but it has to be close to a 1000 or something and I've only ever seen the rift once, which i got on maybe my fifth rift on the second day of RoS.

There is also a cold immune mob, it's in one of those dungeons in the eternal battle field and a similar sort of demon. can't remember the name of it.

Don't bump your stream more then once a day, thanks.

Question on Jekkang: Slash to crit chance or block chance?

Go from Slash to crit chance or blessed shield damage, whatever you land on first really because re-rolling crusader shields is damn rough.

I'd say reroll the damage to holy, it can be hard to get so good luck.

Few pieces i'd recommend you focus on

Ring - Since your using quite a few different sets a royal ring of grandeur would be amazing for you build, 3 set Aughilds and Ashearas will help you be tanky enough to drop your guardian set.

Since the ring is quite hard to get i'd say your easiest upgrade that would make a huge impact is bracers. switching from guardians to Ashearas will net you a whopping 15% damage to elite and 15% reduced damage + you're missing 15-20% elemental damage there. That would be an easy change that would give you a huge increase to damage.

Neck is another focus, yours is nice for 3 stats but finding one with av damage or 15% lightning in addition to those stats can really help. I myself have had pretty bad luck with necks so i can understand how hard it can be to find one even better then the one you are currently using.

Switching from hold your ground to finery will also give a nice boost on damage if your finding it easy to survive.

There has been quite a large influx recently of crusaders asking for help with builds, items and critiquing their play styles so any new posts on the topic will be automatically merged here. easier to have all the gear related questions in one thread to reference back to.

Please try not to bump your stream more than once per day.

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I hope Blizzard wont change anything. I like both my Blessed Hammer Thunderstruck and Justice Crack both doing the same lihhtning damage.

some elements definitely need buffing so skills will change. They won't change the iconic skills defining builds, but they still change the skills around. for example in justice burst would stay but something sword of justice could easily change elements.

With skills getting some attention with elemental swaps i'd like to gauge your opinions on what should change.

Currently i'm happy with the way holy/lightning are currently, they both have multiple viable builds in all torment levels with a rune in practically all skills.

Fire - in an okayish state currently. definitely playable with jekangbord and cindercoat (also blazing sweep being broken surely doesn't help). I'd like to see a fist of the heavens rune with fire since who doesn't want to shoot massive fire bolts? also big potential for a condemn rune or bombardment, pretty surprised one doesn't exist for fire.

Cold - pretty abysmal state, 0 generators and just 2 spenders. i'd like to see a punish and smite rune for Cold for generators, and possibly a justice rune. for spenders shield bash calls out to me for frost, bashing something with a massive icy shield and slowing them down seems to suit the flavor for me. adding in some supporting help with some other utility spells and it could easily be a thing.

Quote from Mdubz

I can do T6 pretty easily with FoH Fissure and Justice Burst, and a metric ton of DMG. Toughness is only around 8mil. Being totally ranged and just kiting away with wrathful +100k to health globes, it's pretty hard to die.

That sounds incredibly inefficient. i play the same build but with 28m toughness solo on T5 and T6 in a group. the only time i ever risk dying to is a fast 5 blue pack with fire chains.

If that build somehow words for you with little toughness that's great. i just don't feel like a crusader unless i can do take it to the face.