Quote from shaggy
It's really fucking ignorant to insinuate that people who don't want to play ladders can just continue on playing just the same.
What is this bullshit? Am I on the Official Forums all of a sudden? Come on man, I've read your posts; you're above this kind of garbage. And if you're going to be a neanderthal about it, at minimum don't call someone else "ignorant" and then misuse a word like "insinuate." I insinuated nothing; I directly stated that people who don't want to play on the ladder don't have to play on the ladder. You even quoted it! And it's a fact. Whatever the actual system turns out to be, there will be absolutely nothing forcing you to make a ladder character other than your own desire. Which is perfect, because that's the whole point - to use your desire for awesome items to get you involved in the ladder.
Anyway, your whole rant seems premised on the assumption that the ladder-only items are intended to be some kind of patch-type fix to what you (and some others) perceive as a problem with the existing itemzation of the game and are therefore entitled to as a matter of course. I don't see the ladder-only items as being an issue because I don't agree with that assumption. I think itemization, while imperfect, is pretty good, and I see ladder seasons and ladder-only items as a natural extension of that system.
The whole game is based on replaying the same content over and over while hunting for the specific items you want. Some find them quickly, some find them slowly, some never find them at all. Yes, I'm at the point where I d/e most legendaries I find, but I understand that's a function of the progress I've already made in the game. It's not the catastrophe you make it out to be, and even if it was, why would I want them to just add another few items that might be upgrades, and I'm back at the same point again after a few drops? That's not a long term solution.
They've already said, the WoW tier model where new content with new gear comes out every couple of months can't be sustained in D3 because there's no monthly fee to support the effort. So, ladder-only legendaries makes a lot of sense to me. If I want Torment-only gear, I have to play in Torment mode. If I want ladder-only gear, I have to play in Ladder-mode. Different sets of items, different rules, consistent logic: the better the items, the more replay it takes to get them.
Complaining that you want a unique class of items designed and implemented for a unique mode of play, without having to play in that mode, doesn't make any sense to me. If you think that current itemization leaves much to be desired, you're entitled to that and you'll have no trouble finding people to agree with you, but that has nothing to do with the ladder and ladder-only items.
Such a ham.Daisychopper so callously dismissed it as "can't please everybody!"