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    posted a message on 2.3: Vyr's / Chantodo's Set Mechanics FAQs
    Quote from Kallizk»

    Quote from Rogoth01»

    Quote from TilloNaut»

    Yeah true dat, it only cleared a Gr 69 with non perfect gear and under 800 paragon+ under 70 gems, but tal still takes a dump on it I guess. Why are people always claiming things so matter of fact-confidently, when they just are not even able to know those things at a certain point in time?!





    you do realise you posted in a thread that is over a month old, and at the time it was posted it was assumed it wouldn't compete with tals due to how damage modifiers work, in that archon damage, and chantodo's set bonus damage is all additive, and is additive with self/party buffs also making it vastly inferior to tals in that regard, furthermore some of the information in the OP is now obslete and incorrect, therefore either needs updating or taking it very liberally with a view to being a rough guide on some basic mechanics and nothing more, in future think before posting, because so far all you are doing is making yourself look like a tit.



    his post seemed accurate, if anything he made YOU look like an ass, or better yet you did that yourself...
    OT: with the changes that went into the PTR last week archon seems to be in a good spot,
    Did some testing (no fishing and no pylons to adulterate) with ancient gear all around with a couple of wiz setups:
    Full tal'rasha cleared up to 56 np, after that u need some luck,

    Del'rasha cleared 56 np has less dmg potential than full tal with F+R and CoE but makes it up in survivability

    Full vyr with all the over 9000 items it needs cleared 56 the easiest of them all
    and finally i even tested firebird with F+R and managed to also do a 56, was the hardest of them all.


    Now granted 56 is not top tier, but after that point pylons + rift density etc etc play a major role in your sucess and i wanted to test with the minimum influences possible, to me all sets are kinda nice until 60, after that point the rift mechanics themselves favor some sets over others.

    TLDR: Vyr is fine.

    due to the way he worded his response, it appeared to me to be sarcastic, and actually trying to mock BDF, therefore, i did the same by stating that 350x20=7500 but i guess you failed in understanding sarcasm, should i have put a load of emoticons or something to make it super duper uber clear?


    the nerf to the belt has left vyr-archon in a bad spot, the fact you think it is good is laughable, 56 is not even close to top tier, previous PTR version i was clearling 63-64 which based on each tier being an order of magnitude 12 higher than the previous tier, you were handling a tier that was ~84-96 times EASIER than what i was doing, furthermore the main source of damage in archon form is the set bonus from chantodo's, not archon itself, and in this regard tals is the best wizard set by such a big margin it doesn't even bear mentioning, it is like trying to compare a light aircraft (firebird), a jumbo jet (vyr), the starship enterprise (tals). Get my point yet or do i need to make it even simpler?

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    Curious, what are your SoH bolts hitting for with ~100 stacks?

    before the belt nerf, easily each bolt hitting for ~130m at an average 85-90 stacks and it fires off 20-30 individual bolts, so you can imagine the damage output adds up fairly quickly.

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    posted a message on 2.3: Vyr's / Chantodo's Set Mechanics FAQs
    Quote from North»

    Wouldn't the Wave of Destruction hit for 7350% weapon damage since every stacks adds 350% to the original Wave?

    350% + 350% * 20 = 7350%


    But I still have a hard time seeing how this will outperform TR, Archon has a blatant weakness and it also requires you to be in close range in order to utilize its full potential.

    it is actually 7500% weapon damage at 20 stacks, 350X20=7500 as to your issue with the viability, it is "fine" to stay in melee range after they changed the 4p with the season exclusive belt power, and that you gain defense from the set bonus now, and with the swami in the cube (which is pretty much mandatory as your "armour" slot item), you will be fine for the ~20 seconds you are out of archon form for and with obsidian ring of the zodiac in the cube (again one of those where you will likely not be using anything else for this slot) that downtime is cut even shorter.

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    posted a message on 2.3: Vyr's / Chantodo's Set Mechanics FAQs
    Quote from TilloNaut»

    Yeah true dat, it only cleared a Gr 69 with non perfect gear and under 800 paragon+ under 70 gems, but tal still takes a dump on it I guess. Why are people always claiming things so matter of fact-confidently, when they just are not even able to know those things at a certain point in time?!

    you do realise you posted in a thread that is over a month old, and at the time it was posted it was assumed it wouldn't compete with tals due to how damage modifiers work, in that archon damage, and chantodo's set bonus damage is all additive, and is additive with self/party buffs also making it vastly inferior to tals in that regard, furthermore some of the information in the OP is now obslete and incorrect, therefore either needs updating or taking it very liberally with a view to being a rough guide on some basic mechanics and nothing more, in future think before posting, because so far all you are doing is making yourself look like a tit.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    Quote from TilloNaut»

    At least the two highest GR clears on ptr (a 69 and a 67 when I last checked) did their runs with shard of hate and lightning archon. Seems to have worked for them. No furnace cubed has got that high by now.



    Interesting. I'll have to try and see if I can find an ICD sometime. I read it has a very short one (like 1/3 second or so), but even if that's true it doesn't matter since you'd rarely be above 3 aps.

    Quote from shinei»

    Does archon slow time take the effect from the slow time effects of Delsere set. I can see some fun times coming my way if they do.



    Not sure, but Archon setup is very gear intensive and there's no room for Delsere's.

    i have been playing purely archon on my s4 wizard on the PTR and using both furnace and SoH in the cube, and while the furance is nice against RG's, shard of hate is just a million times better than anything remotely usable by wizards outside of "maybe" serpent sparker if you are running a hydra based setup outside of archon form (which is pretty hilarious with the huge AS bonus), also, with the season exclusive belt i am regularly hitting lowest stack count ~75-80, highest stack count ~165-180 and with the top end, my APS is reaching close to 4APS, but even with that i am not *noticing* any major performance issues with regard to SoH.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)
    Quote from shinei»

    Does archon slow time take the effect from the slow time effects of Delsere set. I can see some fun times coming my way if they do.

    as i explained in general chat on the PTR the other day, the slow time effect from archon is a rune choice, it is not the same as the actual skill "slow time" which is why there is this confusion because blizzard were too lazy to rename the effect for the archon form version to clarify this, but no, it will never interact with delsere's magnum opus (until such a time as blizz decides it does), and even if it did, there is literally no way to combine 6p vyrs with 4p delsere's in any combination that makes sense, so i wouldn't worry about it anyway to be honest.

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    posted a message on Paragon 10000!

    have logged on my account more than 4000 hours played total since D3 first came out (~2500 hours on wizard alone), i missed almost 9 months of RoS because i spent most of 2014 in hospital (i played first few months after RoS launch and started again back in january this year) i have reached p760 and given up, i was consistently high ranked on the solo wizard GR leaderboard, but that has gone by the board since i have no way to compete with the botters who are p1500+, i have just started a new job and have almost no interest in the game anymore as a result of this lack of progression due to the fact i can't compete anymoreo n solo GR leaderboards, which is mainly where i was focussed, so this issue needs to be addressed asap.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    that post you linked is from when SoH was changed originally back when RoS launched, they have changed it since back in janurary this year (can't find the post about it right now though), so i assumed they had changed how it works internally also, however as i mentioned, it was only as far as i was aware, if i am wrong then fair enough, but it needs fully testing and checking out.

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    posted a message on bluish, demon-like, engorged, knife-wielding followers?

    they are called "fallen lunatics" and they are spawned by the ring "nagelring" if you listen to the lore book by abd al-hazir he describes they origins and their nature, you can also read about them on the diablo wiki page if you so wish.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    SoH may still be good, but it does have an ICD (I believe 1/3 second? so above 3aps it's capped?)

    as far as i am aware, it has no ICD, and no "proc" requirement, it goes off every time you cast something, so with the sheer amount of attack speed being gained through the set bonus, it is possible to chain cast the "proc" effect (which imho should be reworded since it was changed from a proc power to an on cast power) and come away with some rather epic damage numbers from the power affix alone on shard of hate.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    maybe even shard of hate sine that had the "proc" coefficient removed in 2.1.2, so it is now viable as a cube power to use along side whatever weapon you are using, however it does limit you to using cold/lightning as your highest element type on bracers/weapon slot etc.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Wizard - Vyr's Archon Set Explained (Video)

    Quote from Rogoth01»

    as i commented on the youtube video, hydra will be a mainstay of any archon based build after the revamp, due to how AS affects hydra now and just how ridiculous you can get the AS bonus since they made it a baseline set bonus instead of the belt exclusive, with the belt being changed to how it is currently, i can see it being used in the cube, find a GG swami and use RORG in the cube, in order to have both effects active and being able to use something like witching hour or string of ears for even more attack/defense as needs be.



    I'm not sure, as you'd have to give up a dps slot to fit in Hydra. Seems like Blizzard may be resetting cooldown faster than other spells for some reason. Damage in Archon > damage outside by a landslide, so why spend any more time than necessary out of Archon?

    even with evocation passive+diamond in helm you will still need a good amount of CDR on other slots that can roll it (like gloves/shoulders) where you will have to give up on a defensive stat to get it, which on higher Grift tiers (thinking primarily for solo play here) is getting harder and harder to justify, so you will be spending a good 20-30 seconds minimum outside archon form anyway, and in that time window, using a serpent sparker in cube you can get 4 hydra's worth of damage out in the downtime between archon cooldowns, and when i was testing pre ptr patch wipe, my hydra ticks were in the region of 120M on crits, and with the absolutely insane attack speed, i could barely see one number end and the next beginning, my highest attack speed at one point was 164% so yeah, hydra, at least i feel, is going to be a huge thing for when archon is dropped, obviously while in arhon form it doesn't matter, but i am just going off what i have tested so far, things may change with the revamp to belt/set bonus and whatnot, so will just have to see how things go, but yeah, trying to make archon permanent is going to be the main thing.

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    posted a message on tavern talk what will be asking and discussing and when

    will they once again ignore any question about the wizard class and still have no clue what the class actually needs by way of looking completely incompetent when asked a basic class question like they did the last time.

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Item Discussion - Chantodo's Resolve (Video)
    Quote from Jelloslock»

    Just know when it will go away: on paragon level, on looting, on zoning, on potion. Its not hard to play around when you know its gonna go away.

    try "working around it" in a 68 solo rift

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    posted a message on PTR 2.3 Item Discussion - Chantodo's Resolve (Video)

    while iti s a mandatory weapon set for archon, until blizz fix the bugs with it (stacks being constantly reset) it is a waste of time using just now on PTR.

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