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Quote from Zero(pS)

The stuff datamined months ago from when the F&F beta started already had all these "ladder" references. They obviously want to have it and want it to work, they just didn't know how exactly.

It's hard to do it, because some people want the "fresh start" with characters all level 1 and renewed economy (though we don't have an economy anymore), some just want a type of "race" without having to play with non-geared low level characters, some want Paragon levels and experience to be reset...

And then you have problems with the rewards... some want specific rewards, exclusive ladder legendaries, some want higher drop ratio for ladders, some want cosmetics and ladder achievements, some don't want any of that crap because they don't want to be left out of content because they don't want to compete...

Everyone talks about ladders as if it was so obvious to implement them, and how... but they don't take into account the other types of players. From a dev standpoint, it's a nightmare finding a good middle ground.

Quote from El Jefe

completely agree that the official forums will be nuts. sort of unavoidable if players haven't been paying attention to ptr/beta changes I guess, itemization is just so different. until ROS hits and we can outlevel current gear, things like a skorn that roll insane CHD, which can't roll anywhere near current levels in loot 2.0, will destroy the new gear that drops. break out the e-tissues.

Quote from Maka

@Cardinal: hop on the PTR and start crafting, and stop when you run out of one mat. I'm willing to bet the mat that'll run out won't be the rare mat. And that, to me, would be /discussion.

Quote from Cobearz

Come on now seriously they asked..we asked...we wanted it..they gave it..people negative about something we asked for?

Quote from gurg0 » its upgrade but only 8% more space

12chars: 60slots each
3 stash tabs 70 slots each

total 930 slots
now we got 1 more tab +70
that is less than 10%more

Quote from Maffia » Well they are improving some of it, you will be able to choose which portal opens in RoS.

Quote from Zero(pS)

I also don't like their approach with skills so far: "just always buff damage, until it's OP". It's a lazy approach to skill balance. Instead of actually looking "what is the player trying to achieve with this skill" and "why isn't it working?", they simply either remove a mechanic or overbuff the skill. That's kinda amateurish -.-

With all due respect, Zero, especially when it came to the Wizard, just buffing damage is about the last thing they did.

They did it with a lot of the Witch Doctor's DoT skills, because most of the WD's lure is huge amounts of Damage over Time, and most of the existing DoT build options for the WD were pretty pitiful. Now, at least, not only does the WD have a strong amount of powerful spell build options (my WD on the PTR can FINALLY hang with an all Spirit build, with no Primary spell, very happy about that), the WD can also have elemental synergies as well, which makes them great pairings with Wizards, but hardly OP.

So yes, they did "remove a mechanic" in Critical Mass, but they ended up adding so many better options in terms of mitigation...Dominance and Galvanizing Ward now producing shields (something the Monk is also great at doing...keeping up my PTR Monk's Mantra of Healing shield is a great way to restore life without having to depend on Breath of Heaven or Serenity), changing Blur to a flat damage reduction instead of just "melee damage," and I'm pretty sure some of the Primary spells have shields attached as well.

I'm not sure if the major components of the Demon Hunter or Barbarian have changed as drastically, but those classes at least have become WAY more diverse as a result of their skill rebalancing for the patch.

Quote from Jack00

Say i tried joining a hardcore channel, it was #9434 or something. Only thing is I was alone in it. How do I join another hardcore channel ??

I tried to look in the commands. There was one labled "/chan " - joins channel. So I tried "/chan hardcore #9433" and other variants but it didn't work. So how can you join a different channel of the same category ????

On the PTR (and assuming, in the beta), when you leave a room and wait maybe a few seconds to a minute, then join the channel again, you'll be in a different numbered room. So if you're in General#22005, leave the room, wait a little bit, then rejoin General Chat, you might be in General#20054 instead. Which I love, because on the live game, you can leave and rejoin the channel infinitely and you'll still be in the same numbered room until you...

Quote from ShoMi

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Hopefully this feature stays with the patch and they update the chat interface to push this live. It's a small QoL thing, but sometimes you just end up in a crummy room, and you don't want to turn off Chat or leave Chat entirely, you just want different people to Chat with. Especially in D3, like I said, kind of a small QoL thing, but I enjoy that a lot more about D3 than D2. Diablo 2, far as I know, doesn't let you stay in a chat channel when you're in game. You can keep whispering to people, but the chat box was enormous and filled up the top of the screen really fast.

D3's chat lets you play in a game while chatting in General channel, and the box doesn't take up too much of the screen.

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Quote from CardinalMDM

By leveling out loot generation, and spreading it out across the game, running certain spots over and over isn't really the way people will go about getting loot and XP anymore. And I'd rather play a game like that, that has me jumping around the game and compels me to go all over the place, than have the devs suddenly tell me that drop rates on bosses have been quadrupled or some such bull.

QFT.

As I mentioned in another thread already, I really don't get why some people feel it's an absolute necessity to identify the one difficulty, the one zone, the one class, the one spec, the one gear set, to maximize efficiency. Go full DPS WW barb MP10 Crypt farming in full group only, or you're a stupid inefficient noob. Sigh...

D3V has given us "some" choice and variety, at least since 1.08's mob density fix, and with the new itemization, re-balancing of classes, removal of OP builds, the introduction of bounties and rifts no one should ever feel like being pushed into this one-size-fits-all way to play D3. Maybe that's why people say there is no "end-game", because if things go well, RoS will never be like D2 ("kill Baal over and over and over and over"). I get the feeling some people don't want this freedom, they want robot-like monotony with many locked-in features.

In case I didn't say this, Bagstone, I think part of the problem is that people have been so used to various routines from D2 that anything that goes against that model is seen as "bad." Plus, since so much "fun" was had from that kind of model, which involved repeatedly bulldozing the same zones and enemies, no one ever thought to question why such a model was unhealthy or flawed.

Love 'em or hate 'em, the D3 devs are some brave souls. They're taking a community of people spoiled on the mountains of loot they were getting from repeatedly facerolling bosses, and saying, "you have to work for your reward. No more handouts." I grew up rather spoiled by my parents, so I suppose in a subconscious attempt to make up for that, I at least like to work for imaginary loot in a game.

And ya know, I like the last line you say there the best, because it really highlights how contradictory people in this community can sometimes be. I'd be willing to bet there are some people still wondering why bosses aren't dropping better loot...yet, most of those people are also the folks who are saying there isn't enough content. So they want bosses to drop the best loot, but in the process, those bosses will become farming spots, and the amount of content will become less.

In regard to efficiency, my best guess is simple...Ladders. Many D3 players were active Ladder players in D2, and in Ladders, efficiency is a key factor. Honestly, in a Ladder scenario, or in Races like Path of Exile has, I totally understand "efficiency." However, when not in a Ladder or Race scenario, efficiency shouldn't be a factor.

I probably won't partake, but I do hope Ladders show up in D3 ASAP, for the sake of those who want to compete. It's a good PvPvE stepping stone, and lets the people looking for a reason for efficiency have a purpose. Meanwhile, folks who want to kick back and enjoy the slow progression to godliness can enjoy the game the way they want it as well.

I was just making a comment that enchanting is expensive and wasting gold on obsolete items now seems such a waste unless you bought gold or were a AH baron.

Hey guys, I was just checking out /r/diablo and someone posted this; it looks like there's a random merchant that sells Legendary and Set plans sometimes. Here's the original post:

http://i.imgur.com/GxQU1yP.jpg

I was doing bounties and leveling my monk and stumbled upon Dane Bright, the shirtless child merchant who loves to collect orange and green books it seems

He can be found in the Northern Highlands, not sure how rare he is. I found him in the southern corner but a little searching showed he can be in other parts of the Northern Highlands as well. If you find him, go do a couple of bounties and then visit him again, he keeps rolling new plans to sell. Happy hunting!

UPDATE: As per /u/Raticus79's post below, Dane currently only shows up for people in the RoS beta, and will always show up somewhere in the Northern Highlands zone while playing adventure mode. As others have mentioned he is most likely just a temporary measure at speeding up the acquisition of plans. Sorry to derail the hype a bit for you PTR bros

Original link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/1wjpoo/meet_dane_bright_he_sells_set_and_legendary_plans/

People are saying he'll be beta-only, so people can test out more legendaries and sets, but that seems like a really strange way to go about doing so.

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Quote from Vomica

Yeah, not to take apart your observations, but with all due respect, it seems a bit overcomplicated a solution. But then again, my idea might not be all that sound to begin with, so...it might need an overcomplicated solution to fix it, and in which case, may just be easier left out. I'm willing to admit that, :-)

I think that if you don't help complete a bounty, you shouldn't get credit for it. In fact, it'd be fun to join a game and race to see who can complete the most bounties. But more importantly, I believe at some point it becomes the player's responsibility to just not abuse the game mechanics, and the devs just have to let players play how they want.

As I said in another thread, split-farming reminds me of Blood Runs and Baal Runs from D2 - easily the most efficient way to level your character, completely against the spirit of the game. Especially if you weren't one of the two or three OP sorcs carrying the whole group. I did my fair share of them, but I also spent plenty of time and got plenty of enjoyment out of playing through naturally. At no point did I feel obligated to do them because they were optimal.

There are grey areas - I think removing the AH was the right choice even though I could just play self-found because the drop rate really was abysmal; I think BoA is the right call as well even though I could just abstain from trading because I am really tired of third-party site spam (though I guess they will still sell gold and mats). People will disagree on those.

But I think the split-farming thing is a non-issue. If your characters are powerful enough that you can split up and complete separate bounties alone in a 4 player game, then mazel tov. And if you can't hack it, there's the door - go do something else until you can. Or maybe you have friends willing to carry you during split-farming, similar to Uber-carries. Or maybe the third party sites will start selling split-farming sessions. It'll always be something.

Personally, I don't see much point in joining a multiplayer game if you aren't going to be doing the same things working towards a common goal.

Seems like trying to make this work would be a waste of concentration on things that should take precedence.

They doubled the drop rates, but reduced the chance of getting a legendary from gambling. We all knew this was coming as there's been a TON of backlash about the fundamental difference between finding an item and going to a vendor and clicking on their wares for a while.

Even if the ultimate legendary acquisition rate (drops + gambling) remain roughly the same, I can guarantee that most people are going to find the game more enjoyable because they're going to be finding a lot more of their legendaries on the ground versus from the gambler. This also has a HUGE impact on people who do not buy RoS (since it doesn't seem they will get gambling, although that could change).

Ultimately, given BoA, this is exactly the mentality I wanted to see from the development team, and has somewhat renewed my faith in them. If I'm finding roughly one legendary per hour then I think it's safe to say that no item should ever feel "unobtainable" and that the carrot on a stick is functioning. Of course testing is necessary, but this is a very good step to making the "item hunt" actually feel like an item hunt and not a blood shard hunt.

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And it goes a long way to making those builds that are "locked" because you don't have the proper items feel obtainable too. At the end of the day the legendary acquisition from gambling needs to be low enough that it's just a bonus, and not the mainstay of gearing. If you get one legendary every 2-3 days from gambling, that rate is probably low enough that gambling won't feel mandatory, but large enough that it would be supplemental to farming IF you chose to do that.