36-37k hp is fine. my advice go try it out. if u pick up ur gems this will only cost u to craft them. just make radiant squares. if you can survive good if not then replace 1 for vit and go from there
again this is so cheap and cost effective since u will be keeping all ur gems anyway and the gems only cost a few k to take it out
gems
thats 200 more str straight up just with radiant square
other than than consider 1 more piece IK with AR (chest since u want to keep your belt)
When i farm mp3 I have 700 AR unbuffed and it helps me not in danger of dying. now I have 500 AR since I have better weapon and gear but since the AR is lower I have to watch my health bar more closely because those heavy hitters and molten stack will hurt
other than that I would just keep farming mp1 till I can make big purchases
I run mp1 now with mf gear and 90k dps. so much faster and I get much more legendaries this week because I run more efficiently
This is my toon. I got some lucky drops (especially the amu, which i won't sell for now ^^ ) and i am sitting on ~60,000,000 to spend.
I am currently primarly doing A3 runs on MP2 but i'd like to migrate to farming Keys and Ubers.
I know that i need definitely more defensive stats, but i have no clue where to get them, since i am very relucant to reduce my DPS for more defense.
So anybody up for recommendations on which pieces to replace that wouldn't reduce my dps but would boost my defense?
Preferably affordable recommendations ^^
you need to upgrade your way of thinking first
"i dont want to sacrifice dps" mindset will never get u anywhere
at higher mp u want to be able to survive first then we worry abt dps
there was a barb with 100k dps and all these nice legendaries
but he has 22k hp and basically the same EHP. cant do anything above mp1 and you wonder why
thats what u get for your mindset
if you want to farm mp5 and above then start getting defensive stat, the dps will come easier later with better weapons, gems and jewelry, but as long as you have the base downright you will be good.
rather than buy things to upgrade for dps now and u have to change it again later. your DPS will drop thats for sure. and i will probably avoid buying small upgrades / sidegrades. continue to farm while just patiently looking for good piece to buy
for high end barb VIT is the hardest to come by because mempo, IK pieces are high in STR and low or no vit at all. thats why random vit roll on IK pieces are so expensive. STR are super easy to come by when you are upgrading but not VIT. usually places u hunt for these are rings amulets and shoulder.
your yellow ring its rubbish. add in 40 avg damage there and u should be good and this will cost 200-300k. spend around 1m u get better ones with more stats (str vit socket life% loh AR). choose what you feel you need.
chest pants are decent for mp2 but it could be better since vit can roll up to 300.
hard to beat IK chest even a bad one, so try to find one with good base vit 75-80vit and good str 150str. best IK chest will have 150-180vit but we cant afford that now.
IK boots is instant upgrade for you for 3m, the 3 piece bonus set will gives u instant 10-15k extra EHP and it is a cheaper option, firewalkers with will give you more stats but more expensive, its your choice, make sure the firewalker has good AR and vit and good str. ice climbers are outside your budget even a cheaper one with MS is 100m+
depth digger is nice for low mp runs while higher mp maybe u want to get something else, some ppl use blackthorne for loh, some ppl go inna for movespeed and attack speed or you can go for massive VIT str 2 socket high AR rare pants
belt str could be higher too since belt roll str to 300. life% is nice too here
I like it that you are asking how to gear your self instead of "i have XXmil what to upgrade threads"
Lets faced it hardly anyone use self found gear, i mean it is super rare to find the exact drop you needed. Having said that I use a few self found gear (maybe from my other character) because I am a cheapo >.< I kept buying junks tho like 750k maximus!! for my enchantress when my gear was 200-300k a piece at that time. I can afford few IK pieces right now too but i feel it is not the way to go. i am more inclined to drop all for a good lacuni or ice boots even though I can get 2-3 piece of IK set (maybe a high roll main stat with shitty random)
now looking at your stats I can tell straight away where your problem is. your strength as someone mentioned is way too low. You should be aiming 2000+ strength. your lifesteal is not needed YET with 50k dps, I am on 88k dps and I try to run mp3 on 6% LS but life on hit still feels better for me. I have IK belt and lamentation already for lifesteal but i feel my 150k belt perform more the same way at this time maybe because it has more defensive stats the damage is less spiky (physical res that stacks with other armor) I think I ended with 800 AR 900 physical resist when I found my balance for mp3 run (not fast not slow, but i just farm mp1 because its faster).
part of upgrading is to understand each items and how they come in together in the end not just individually, say u have very high str shoulder but no vit what do u do? well u can try get vit on every other piece or get massive one on chest or pants. u need to know what max rolls for each slot for each stat (300 int dex for glove 300 str for belt and shoulder, 300vit for chest and pants, etc). what special stat can spawn on what slot (lifesteal on mighty belts, crit on helm bracer and gloves, attack speed, life% etc).
next you need to know legendaries and their stats, movement speed on bracer like lacuni prowlers, attack speed on andariel visage helm, those can't be found on normal items. And the legendary stats, many legendaries have low or high roll of main stat so you see why there is an IK belt for 100k and there are others over a mil. it is not cost effective to buy low rolls legendaries or high rolls legendaries with bad random roll but sometimes we can't help it with budget limitation, it is so much easier to pick what you want on yellow gears instead with legendaries. you need to learn which legendary is not helpful for which class. vile ward is a very good shoulder no doubt, high main stat, high all resist, armor. now why are they so good is they can roll the main stat over 200 so everyone loves them (like promise of glory can roll over 200 stat which is not possible on yellow bracer) but str goes to 300 on shoulder so vile ward is not really ideal for barb. I try to find a 2-4m vileward for upgrade and i cant find one to replace my 200k shoulder!! that shows a 200k shoulder can be similar (slightly less stat) with a nice legendary. a vit roll vile ward is expensive too!! but a 2-3m rare shoulder i can get 230ishstr 100 vit which i want since I am going for 2 piece IK, IK pieces lacks of natural VIT so u have to plan to get it from different places and getting a vile ward is going to make my life even harder (i think vile ward rolls max 100 vit too) or maybe i go for 100 str since i have too much str anyway and went 180 vit and a pick up radius, armor, high resist, plus an extra resist or something. knowing my vit is on a place that at a comfortable level i have doubts going for IK set as I know my health would drop. this is why ice climbers and fire walkers are soooo good for barb ice climbers with such a high native main stat roll plus a socket plus 3 random roll (pray to your diablo gods that if u ever found one that it has MV as random drop and the others to complement your the main stat, even if u found an int one u can sell for sooo much) fire walkers has movement speed but no all resist. one with all res is expensive so if u plan to use this u need to pick up all resist somewhere else.
I avoided legendaries and set with my initial 2m budget and it has work pretty for me, the only legendary i use is andariel visage early on with gold find roll, cost me 50k gold, the dps increase it offers for 50k gold helm is INSANE, but those extra damage from fire hurts on higher MPs so i would not recommend it for mp run above two or three, i have 800 all res too. Yes you need to identify where to upgrade your pieces and you need to plan. And really 2m gear a piece is nothing, I can only find small upgrades with 2m budget a piece, what i want is 3-5m a piece at they are far from the best gear! My plan is to keep farming and wait for jackpot drop and buy 10m+ pieces.
Lets take my cheapo barb for example
profile/Luna-1865/hero/4164484
pardon the few mf pieces but my other budget belt is of similar stats with more str but less all resist. my other boots has 130 str lower AR 50 vit and 12 movespeed.
hopefully can help you understand the mind set about upgrading by explaining my process of upgrading now. Cheapo barb has bad main hand! Well I was lucky 2 days ago i found a white damage mighty weapon 950 dps with 100+str and a socket. I tried it didn't quite like it i mow down mobs faster with my mace maybe because of the 10% crit passive maybe the 150 extra str I am not too sure. what I like though with that fury generation is sooo easy with it, when you have too many dps and running too low mp levels you will have a problem with fury so using mighty weapon it is much easier for me on mp1 but its not that I cannot live without so i put it up on ah 1.5m buy out sold within 15 minutes. i guess i should put it up for more but i tend to sale everything for cheap so i can put up many items. so on this lessons i found out that a 950 dps weapon I didnt get any dps increase because my weapon type changed and i survive better because of the LS on mp3. so higher dps weapon is not always the case. my previous axe is 1m 850dps with double crit and 100 str but this mace has better dps from the 150 extra str.
shitty glove hands down I have a different glove 127 str some vit higher around AR 7% IAS and crit but this gloves gives me more dps and i paid less than 3k gold for it... 10% crit max u can get, crit only spawns on selected pieces too I went for crit and ias instead of crit damage knowing that i have 2 weapon with 2 double crit my off hand has 99% crit damage plus gem. my upgrade will be similar with vit and maybe slightly higher all resist but it is hard for me to find some decent glove so i am happy to wear my 3k gold glove.
to quickly go over since this is getting long, i would replace my ring, one without loh and all resist, a pure dps ring like the mf ring, actually sometimes i have to go for another similar ring with 200 loh and ar just because of loh is strained on mp4) when I can afford losing the AR. same with amulet (my back up amulet is less str but 100+vit and 80AR gives me better survivability). shoulder with more str and secondary stat (armor, physical fire resist) but since I need the pick up radius it has been difficult to find one for a reasonable price (sub 1m). one way i can do it is to move pick up radius on glove or bracer but since i have nice bracer (self found) and my glove is an area of improvement i will try to move it to my glove. need a more defensive helm 100str 100vit armor all resist and crit chance (forget about socket for the time being) IK helm with all resist or vit roll is an option but they are pricy but i am eyeing that or IK glove because i have a belt ready. Mempo is an option too but it is an offensive helm
i dont bother with pants because they are bit expensive since all barb went IK armor all barb wants high vit pants QQ. boots dont i bother, similar boots like mine cost 500k-1m (imagine the int as an str for the time) for extra 50vit will cost me 3m, i can use 3m to pick up more value on better rings/amulet/glove than just an extra 50vit and 20str on boots. My plan here is to buy 100m on ice climber one day. Sorry for the long post but i hope you get the gist of upgrading especially on lower budget.
got WD froggy off him yesterday
low damage roll =(
i think he is the only boss who gave me legendary EVER when i am starting to think act bosses never drops legendary. I even started to skip bosses because I get more legendaries from from keywardens (4-5 this week alone!)
dude, class balances happen. upon release till 1.0.3 hit, barb along with WD suffers on the bottom of hell while DH and Wiz rules it all in inferno. monk at least is always at steady position and never be the position of early WD and Barb, hell i can't even tell which class is the worst at the moment but ww barb has it really easy in terms of farming. i don't see major difference on monk since release, just be grateful you don't get hit by major nerf like DH ss and wiz armor. And please do not mention IAS nerf because that hits everyone especially DH and Wiz with their item value wiped got hit so hard especially those who spent in RMAH.
i loved barb i played it even so it is painful to do so before 1.0.3 but I made a DH too for farming goblins to find gears and helping me with repair gold. When DH and goblins got nerf. I made monk and boy how easy it was to progress through inferno with a monk early on compared to barb. My advice is if you can't beat them join them! I took a break when WW barb started to come out and came back this month. and now WW barb is all the rage but my monk doesn't feel much difference. I don't play my monk now (i play for a bit till paragon level 9) but I am sure one day I will play him again.
And please don't cry regarding legendaries, IK is far from being the armor to go to. There are sacrifice to be made just like any legendary for any class. Notice IK is lacking of VIT on the chest piece, glove and helm is far from ideal too, high end barb avoid IK anyway, maybe only use one or two piece. Majority of ww barb don't run with skorn too by the way. lifesteal belt on mighty belt i think that is fair enough, it fits the lore. what blizzard needs to do is buff spirit based stats to be more viable. Maybe for monks heal based on dodge, re design passives to be more interesting, I feel guardian path has a lot of potential and offer alternative viable defensive passives.
It all comes down to your item planning, If you choose to use 4 piece Inna of course u can't really get double resist, hell barb doesn't even have double resist why don't i complain about that? Its the same for 3/5 piece IK barb, the same with legacy DH natalya. The point is double resist is available for you on every single piece of armor to take it or not it is ultimately your choice. Do you know how is it more convenient for monk to choose resist. If a gear with all resist/double resist is expensive just go for single chosen resist and the price is not as much as all resist / double resist. for barb they can't do it like that. and one class SHOULD never be equal to another class. It should be different.
You mention monk to be equal as a TANK. WW barb is no TANK, I am not too familiar with monk tank but I feel monk has MUCH more potential being a better tank at the moment. Your offensive skills such as deadly reach, thunderclap, lashing tail kick, seven sided strike is all offensive skills that offers good escape mechanism/mobilty.
full CC break like serenity (short cooldown FTW?) compared to 3 minutes WotB?
inner sanctuary? near death experience passive? thats much more tanky potential out of monk.
furious charge u can escape some cc, leap offers mobility but little offensive power and not as spam-able as monk skills.
Barb main attack don't offer any escape mechanism unless u count knock back from bash which doesnt help when you are surrounded..
as if monk doesn't have heal... so dont rant abt rend/revenge/overpower (yes its barb heals are better but its not as if you dont have one)
ground stomp. but monk has those too in blind.....
the only reliable barb skills is ignore pain but monk has pacifism passive (which gonna be crazy in PvP)
Having said all these i do want to see monk improves. I wanna see exciting things from monk, maybe a dual wield tanky build that doesn't suffer too much on dps (i wanna see sword and board barb option too). Maybe interesting utility skills in group environment (monk always better anyway for providing group utility than a barb). Barb resist shout got nerfed btw in case you didn't know and many 100k+ dps barb has drop the skills (maybe not for higher MPs). I don't see OWE is nerfed and I didn't even read once WW barb complained why their resist got nerfed and OWE is untouched. It goes both way mate we go on and adjust
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again this is so cheap and cost effective since u will be keeping all ur gems anyway and the gems only cost a few k to take it out
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thats 200 more str straight up just with radiant square
other than than consider 1 more piece IK with AR (chest since u want to keep your belt)
When i farm mp3 I have 700 AR unbuffed and it helps me not in danger of dying. now I have 500 AR since I have better weapon and gear but since the AR is lower I have to watch my health bar more closely because those heavy hitters and molten stack will hurt
other than that I would just keep farming mp1 till I can make big purchases
I run mp1 now with mf gear and 90k dps. so much faster and I get much more legendaries this week because I run more efficiently
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you need to upgrade your way of thinking first
"i dont want to sacrifice dps" mindset will never get u anywhere
at higher mp u want to be able to survive first then we worry abt dps
there was a barb with 100k dps and all these nice legendaries
but he has 22k hp and basically the same EHP. cant do anything above mp1 and you wonder why
thats what u get for your mindset
if you want to farm mp5 and above then start getting defensive stat, the dps will come easier later with better weapons, gems and jewelry, but as long as you have the base downright you will be good.
rather than buy things to upgrade for dps now and u have to change it again later. your DPS will drop thats for sure. and i will probably avoid buying small upgrades / sidegrades. continue to farm while just patiently looking for good piece to buy
for high end barb VIT is the hardest to come by because mempo, IK pieces are high in STR and low or no vit at all. thats why random vit roll on IK pieces are so expensive. STR are super easy to come by when you are upgrading but not VIT. usually places u hunt for these are rings amulets and shoulder.
your yellow ring its rubbish. add in 40 avg damage there and u should be good and this will cost 200-300k. spend around 1m u get better ones with more stats (str vit socket life% loh AR). choose what you feel you need.
chest pants are decent for mp2 but it could be better since vit can roll up to 300.
hard to beat IK chest even a bad one, so try to find one with good base vit 75-80vit and good str 150str. best IK chest will have 150-180vit but we cant afford that now.
IK boots is instant upgrade for you for 3m, the 3 piece bonus set will gives u instant 10-15k extra EHP and it is a cheaper option, firewalkers with will give you more stats but more expensive, its your choice, make sure the firewalker has good AR and vit and good str. ice climbers are outside your budget even a cheaper one with MS is 100m+
depth digger is nice for low mp runs while higher mp maybe u want to get something else, some ppl use blackthorne for loh, some ppl go inna for movespeed and attack speed or you can go for massive VIT str 2 socket high AR rare pants
belt str could be higher too since belt roll str to 300. life% is nice too here
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Lets faced it hardly anyone use self found gear, i mean it is super rare to find the exact drop you needed. Having said that I use a few self found gear (maybe from my other character) because I am a cheapo >.< I kept buying junks tho like 750k maximus!! for my enchantress when my gear was 200-300k a piece at that time. I can afford few IK pieces right now too but i feel it is not the way to go. i am more inclined to drop all for a good lacuni or ice boots even though I can get 2-3 piece of IK set (maybe a high roll main stat with shitty random)
now looking at your stats I can tell straight away where your problem is. your strength as someone mentioned is way too low. You should be aiming 2000+ strength. your lifesteal is not needed YET with 50k dps, I am on 88k dps and I try to run mp3 on 6% LS but life on hit still feels better for me. I have IK belt and lamentation already for lifesteal but i feel my 150k belt perform more the same way at this time maybe because it has more defensive stats the damage is less spiky (physical res that stacks with other armor) I think I ended with 800 AR 900 physical resist when I found my balance for mp3 run (not fast not slow, but i just farm mp1 because its faster).
part of upgrading is to understand each items and how they come in together in the end not just individually, say u have very high str shoulder but no vit what do u do? well u can try get vit on every other piece or get massive one on chest or pants. u need to know what max rolls for each slot for each stat (300 int dex for glove 300 str for belt and shoulder, 300vit for chest and pants, etc). what special stat can spawn on what slot (lifesteal on mighty belts, crit on helm bracer and gloves, attack speed, life% etc).
next you need to know legendaries and their stats, movement speed on bracer like lacuni prowlers, attack speed on andariel visage helm, those can't be found on normal items. And the legendary stats, many legendaries have low or high roll of main stat so you see why there is an IK belt for 100k and there are others over a mil. it is not cost effective to buy low rolls legendaries or high rolls legendaries with bad random roll but sometimes we can't help it with budget limitation, it is so much easier to pick what you want on yellow gears instead with legendaries. you need to learn which legendary is not helpful for which class. vile ward is a very good shoulder no doubt, high main stat, high all resist, armor. now why are they so good is they can roll the main stat over 200 so everyone loves them (like promise of glory can roll over 200 stat which is not possible on yellow bracer) but str goes to 300 on shoulder so vile ward is not really ideal for barb. I try to find a 2-4m vileward for upgrade and i cant find one to replace my 200k shoulder!! that shows a 200k shoulder can be similar (slightly less stat) with a nice legendary. a vit roll vile ward is expensive too!! but a 2-3m rare shoulder i can get 230ishstr 100 vit which i want since I am going for 2 piece IK, IK pieces lacks of natural VIT so u have to plan to get it from different places and getting a vile ward is going to make my life even harder (i think vile ward rolls max 100 vit too) or maybe i go for 100 str since i have too much str anyway and went 180 vit and a pick up radius, armor, high resist, plus an extra resist or something. knowing my vit is on a place that at a comfortable level i have doubts going for IK set as I know my health would drop. this is why ice climbers and fire walkers are soooo good for barb ice climbers with such a high native main stat roll plus a socket plus 3 random roll (pray to your diablo gods that if u ever found one that it has MV as random drop and the others to complement your the main stat, even if u found an int one u can sell for sooo much) fire walkers has movement speed but no all resist. one with all res is expensive so if u plan to use this u need to pick up all resist somewhere else.
I avoided legendaries and set with my initial 2m budget and it has work pretty for me, the only legendary i use is andariel visage early on with gold find roll, cost me 50k gold, the dps increase it offers for 50k gold helm is INSANE, but those extra damage from fire hurts on higher MPs so i would not recommend it for mp run above two or three, i have 800 all res too. Yes you need to identify where to upgrade your pieces and you need to plan. And really 2m gear a piece is nothing, I can only find small upgrades with 2m budget a piece, what i want is 3-5m a piece at they are far from the best gear! My plan is to keep farming and wait for jackpot drop and buy 10m+ pieces.
Lets take my cheapo barb for example
profile/Luna-1865/hero/4164484
pardon the few mf pieces but my other budget belt is of similar stats with more str but less all resist. my other boots has 130 str lower AR 50 vit and 12 movespeed.
hopefully can help you understand the mind set about upgrading by explaining my process of upgrading now. Cheapo barb has bad main hand! Well I was lucky 2 days ago i found a white damage mighty weapon 950 dps with 100+str and a socket. I tried it didn't quite like it i mow down mobs faster with my mace maybe because of the 10% crit passive maybe the 150 extra str I am not too sure. what I like though with that fury generation is sooo easy with it, when you have too many dps and running too low mp levels you will have a problem with fury so using mighty weapon it is much easier for me on mp1 but its not that I cannot live without so i put it up on ah 1.5m buy out sold within 15 minutes. i guess i should put it up for more but i tend to sale everything for cheap so i can put up many items. so on this lessons i found out that a 950 dps weapon I didnt get any dps increase because my weapon type changed and i survive better because of the LS on mp3. so higher dps weapon is not always the case. my previous axe is 1m 850dps with double crit and 100 str but this mace has better dps from the 150 extra str.
shitty glove hands down I have a different glove 127 str some vit higher around AR 7% IAS and crit but this gloves gives me more dps and i paid less than 3k gold for it... 10% crit max u can get, crit only spawns on selected pieces too I went for crit and ias instead of crit damage knowing that i have 2 weapon with 2 double crit my off hand has 99% crit damage plus gem. my upgrade will be similar with vit and maybe slightly higher all resist but it is hard for me to find some decent glove so i am happy to wear my 3k gold glove.
to quickly go over since this is getting long, i would replace my ring, one without loh and all resist, a pure dps ring like the mf ring, actually sometimes i have to go for another similar ring with 200 loh and ar just because of loh is strained on mp4) when I can afford losing the AR. same with amulet (my back up amulet is less str but 100+vit and 80AR gives me better survivability). shoulder with more str and secondary stat (armor, physical fire resist) but since I need the pick up radius it has been difficult to find one for a reasonable price (sub 1m). one way i can do it is to move pick up radius on glove or bracer but since i have nice bracer (self found) and my glove is an area of improvement i will try to move it to my glove. need a more defensive helm 100str 100vit armor all resist and crit chance (forget about socket for the time being) IK helm with all resist or vit roll is an option but they are pricy but i am eyeing that or IK glove because i have a belt ready. Mempo is an option too but it is an offensive helm
i dont bother with pants because they are bit expensive since all barb went IK armor all barb wants high vit pants QQ. boots dont i bother, similar boots like mine cost 500k-1m (imagine the int as an str for the time) for extra 50vit will cost me 3m, i can use 3m to pick up more value on better rings/amulet/glove than just an extra 50vit and 20str on boots. My plan here is to buy 100m on ice climber one day. Sorry for the long post but i hope you get the gist of upgrading especially on lower budget.
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low damage roll =(
i think he is the only boss who gave me legendary EVER when i am starting to think act bosses never drops legendary. I even started to skip bosses because I get more legendaries from from keywardens (4-5 this week alone!)
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i loved barb i played it even so it is painful to do so before 1.0.3 but I made a DH too for farming goblins to find gears and helping me with repair gold. When DH and goblins got nerf. I made monk and boy how easy it was to progress through inferno with a monk early on compared to barb. My advice is if you can't beat them join them! I took a break when WW barb started to come out and came back this month. and now WW barb is all the rage but my monk doesn't feel much difference. I don't play my monk now (i play for a bit till paragon level 9) but I am sure one day I will play him again.
And please don't cry regarding legendaries, IK is far from being the armor to go to. There are sacrifice to be made just like any legendary for any class. Notice IK is lacking of VIT on the chest piece, glove and helm is far from ideal too, high end barb avoid IK anyway, maybe only use one or two piece. Majority of ww barb don't run with skorn too by the way. lifesteal belt on mighty belt i think that is fair enough, it fits the lore. what blizzard needs to do is buff spirit based stats to be more viable. Maybe for monks heal based on dodge, re design passives to be more interesting, I feel guardian path has a lot of potential and offer alternative viable defensive passives.
It all comes down to your item planning, If you choose to use 4 piece Inna of course u can't really get double resist, hell barb doesn't even have double resist why don't i complain about that? Its the same for 3/5 piece IK barb, the same with legacy DH natalya. The point is double resist is available for you on every single piece of armor to take it or not it is ultimately your choice. Do you know how is it more convenient for monk to choose resist. If a gear with all resist/double resist is expensive just go for single chosen resist and the price is not as much as all resist / double resist. for barb they can't do it like that. and one class SHOULD never be equal to another class. It should be different.
You mention monk to be equal as a TANK. WW barb is no TANK, I am not too familiar with monk tank but I feel monk has MUCH more potential being a better tank at the moment. Your offensive skills such as deadly reach, thunderclap, lashing tail kick, seven sided strike is all offensive skills that offers good escape mechanism/mobilty.
full CC break like serenity (short cooldown FTW?) compared to 3 minutes WotB?
inner sanctuary? near death experience passive? thats much more tanky potential out of monk.
furious charge u can escape some cc, leap offers mobility but little offensive power and not as spam-able as monk skills.
Barb main attack don't offer any escape mechanism unless u count knock back from bash which doesnt help when you are surrounded..
as if monk doesn't have heal... so dont rant abt rend/revenge/overpower (yes its barb heals are better but its not as if you dont have one)
ground stomp. but monk has those too in blind.....
the only reliable barb skills is ignore pain but monk has pacifism passive (which gonna be crazy in PvP)
Having said all these i do want to see monk improves. I wanna see exciting things from monk, maybe a dual wield tanky build that doesn't suffer too much on dps (i wanna see sword and board barb option too). Maybe interesting utility skills in group environment (monk always better anyway for providing group utility than a barb). Barb resist shout got nerfed btw in case you didn't know and many 100k+ dps barb has drop the skills (maybe not for higher MPs). I don't see OWE is nerfed and I didn't even read once WW barb complained why their resist got nerfed and OWE is untouched. It goes both way mate we go on and adjust