I've flipped items I've gotten for a few hundred million gold in the gold AH and tossed them into the RMAH for $250 back when gold was 25 cents a million (this is the U.S. server).
FYI, that amulet you have is subpar at best. If it had crit damage or attack speed in combination with decent average damage, there's your value. Otherwise, it's okay. 30M is a lot for it, if you could get that much, take it. I personally wouldn't even shell out 10 for it. I'll pick up all resist on other pieces of gear.
Also, the Blackthorne's Jousting Mail I currently use on my wizard was $20. Comparable ones in the gold AH are hundreds of millions to a billion worth in gold. If I felt like it, I would've paid $100 for it. Desirable items like these are what sell in the RMAH. I sure as hell won't pay for your amulet if it were in the RMAH, unless you price it at $1.25 so I can flip it for a 4 or 5M.
Essentially, for your amulet, you want high DPS stats, meaning more than a single DPS-enhancing stat like crit chance. Your want crit chance + crit damage. Or at least crit chance + attack speed. Even those amulets aren't worth too much anymore. Now you need standard trifecta (CC/CD/IAS) or at least 2/3 with average damage. All the while with primary stats as well. Everything else is a bonus. Vitality is desirable, but those are easily made up on standard armor pieces.
Of course, there are exceptions. If you had 250/250+ of primary stat and vitality, that'll shoot up the value a lot more. But even then, if I were hunting for an amulet, I'd hunt elsewhere for more DPS stats unless you price that as a major bargain deal.
Is there some sort of guide to go by for each piece into knowing what each piece needs for stats? Rings? Boots? weps?
Weapons has killed me because I dont know what they need to sell.
You answered your own question before you even asked it.
Everything is about crit damage and crit chance (and for most builds, increased attack speed also): that amulet rolled only one of those - when it can roll all three - and a low roll at that: 6% out of a possible 10%.
That amulet, and I hate to say it, is essentially worthless. Not useless (unless you have better), but certainly worthless.
Well this is what I thought to, but is it pieces with both Crit dmg and Crit %?
Where does resistance play in at?
Most items I am seeing on the AH to my eyes dont seem worth the price they asking, often times lack resistance but are high in price due to many other stats outside of just crit.
Since the game launched, I played about 450 hours total (not very much) about 300 of it was on a barbaian, 150 on a Wizard which is what I started out with a launch, often times would quite for 2-3 months hoping to see some change, unfortunately, I havent seen much change in the game.
The RMAH I thought would give an opportunity for some players to make a buck, but I look at it today and the one thing I notice the most is the price of gold is at .50 per million. Basically a whole $1 gets you 2 million gold. I ask.......with cheap prices like this, is anything but gold even selling on the RMAH? Its easy to pull out a Jefferson, get 40 million gold, and then move on to the GAH. Is anyone really selling anything anymore in the RMAH?
This leads me to loot, legendaries, set items, and with that said, I ask..........wtf determines a price on loot? Use to it was all about the Resistance and high main stat items with vitality, for casters it was all about the high damage 2h weps + attk speed %, now it seems to be all about Crit % and Crit damage %. As this game seems geared toward that, I thought this was where the money was, apparently not, matter of fact I am not quite understanding what is selling for what, I ask for Price Checks in chat for say this item I have had for quite a while now:
Sinister Necklace
Str 154
vit 163
arcane resist 40
all resist 34
crit chance 6%
Thats one of the prime pieces I been trying to find a price on, you type in stats similar to that on AH rounding to nearest 10th (150, 160, 40, 30, 6) and nothing pops up in the AH.
people in chat says its about 30 million, other times people will tell me I wont get much for it.
But then when I find the crit % items, items of similar upon the search in the AH is not even a million, some is like 10,000 gold (LOL Really?)
I am lost, granted I came back into Diablo about 5 days ago, and my Barb is crappy geared (can do MP3 but its hard, MP2 more suited) I am just finding an identity crisis when it comes to loot, what the hell is selling? Outside the fact I can farm till I am blue in the fact in all the acts and never find a legendary or set items, even though my MF is at 300%. (Paragon 11). Least in Diablo II a unique (Legendary in D3) would drop once in a while, same with set items. In Diablo III and since the last many months, it seems I have went into an endless loop, I am not one for farming gold, I hate it when the price of it is a joke, but its set here for 2-3 hours, and basically kill many elite packs, maybe a boss or 2, and their is nothing to show for it but a little bit of EXP for the Paragon.
I am sure this topic will get shredded by trolls, because quite frankly, no one cares about casuals and most of the players left playing this game is elitist who got lucky or spent a fortune.
Bliz is a terrible company. They are not looking to please their customers at all. So a few of you complain... you're like 0.001% of their economy. They just don't care.
Its not blizzards fault people are stupid and get scammed. Blame the stupid people who keep scammer in business rather than blaming blizzard.
Its more than getting scammed.
people get scammed because the system is so easy to exploit in the first place.
They still get scammed because they are stupid. They press the the accept button themself, before double checking if the its the real item in the trade window. You cannot blame blizzard for peoples incompetence and lack of brain activity.
In a way, but they should just remove Legacy items in the first place.
All that has done is give players the key to pull off these scams or whatever you want to call it.
Bliz is a terrible company. They are not looking to please their customers at all. So a few of you complain... you're like 0.001% of their economy. They just don't care.
Its not blizzards fault people are stupid and get scammed. Blame the stupid people who keep scammer in business rather than blaming blizzard.
Its more than getting scammed.
people get scammed because the system is so easy to exploit in the first place.
Blizzard is ignorant bunch when they started hiring players and other employees out of Sony after WOW was released, Most of what they hired out of Sony was those type of players who were the cheating the system, scamming, botting, and it allows those very players to get by with it more and more.
As for the program to control the mouse and drop items...............Is this in Diablo 3 now as well? I know it was in Diablo 2 or is that tech support rep having flash backs to Diablo 2?
How much reputation does a level 4 caught on video trade scamming have?
Your ban was standard procedure, you violated a rule,you got banned, how they handle the info you posted has nothing to do with the fact that you broke a rule.
It sucks, but they cant really let the forum be flooded with topics like that, in most cases its just word vs word.
Moving this to the general discussion section.
No they let it be flooded with topics no one wants to see because its all related to Barbs and WW.
Is Blizzard protecting Scammers?
maybe.
I can tell you first hand in World of Warcraft back some time back their was some Gold Farmers/Sellers, Scammers, I have seen some of them go on for over a year, if they were ever banned, I dunno.
Look at Diablo II hardly anyone was banned in that game.
As you see in the chat in the OP, In game reporting does nothing.........It dont. It really dont.
In World of Warcraft their was techniques used to enter certain dungeons for raids and at times, 5 man instances.
These techniques would involve at times what class went in first, with what, what we had kind of figured out was, the moment you entered a dungeon, the loot table had already became pre-determined on mobs and bosses, all you needed to do was just simply kill them and take it.
I can see this very much being the case in Diablo III as well.
You are correct that WoW had ludicrous fictional theories about ways to skew loot generation that were very similar to the claims being made in this thread.
You are incorrect that in WoW you could influence drops by "what class went in first". Never happened.
Random is random, and the human brain is an incredibly effective device for seeing patterns in randomness that don't actually exist.
Well we really dont know that unless you knew what the loot was going to be before so and so class or technique was used to enter a dungeon.
In the end it was really all theory, but at least a Theory is something that was not proven wrong, nor was it really proven right.
we all know it and hope things change, it feels good when nice stuff drops, basicly only now on good legendaries, but no hope in any decent yellow loot. Nope in lotsa hours played, yellows were not my friend and i've seen alot.
I think the more people play this game, the worse loot gets, before patch u had 6 stat recipes drop in act3, now they disappeared, mostly 4-5 recipes..
Loot was better before patch when very few peeps played, the loot system would give u better loots, don't know, i believe the good loot is spread between all players, so if more people play, u yourself will see less good yellows. Legendaries seems to drop every so much kills, pretty constitant, its however easy to miss them. If u don't find legendaries, u probably didn't pick them up. I know off 4 times that i missed them and found them later.
This patch is the last for me, and doesnt look like it will fix anything, unless uberstuff is cool and all, seems just more yellows, more mf, some more legendaries, thats it. Same system, just more of it..
Could be more people up there at uber end gear wise and all who is making their living farming, which is affecting drops on the lower end.
This system over time caters to who has the best gear and easier time to plow through elites and trash.
It just completely screws over the low end because nothing useful will drop.
I believe this based off the way Blizzard runs servers.
In World of Warcraft their was techniques used to enter certain dungeons for raids and at times, 5 man instances.
These techniques would involve at times what class went in first, with what, what we had kind of figured out was, the moment you entered a dungeon, the loot table had already became pre-determined on mobs and bosses, all you needed to do was just simply kill them and take it.
I can see this very much being the case in Diablo III as well.
If you could ever get a intelligent topic done on the Blizzard forums, it would be all gravy and biscuits.
But one of the questions I have asked in this game, is there too big of a gap?
heres the reason why I think so.
I could be called Casual player, but thats because I cannot stand to really be logged in Diablo III for more than 3 hours a day usually, in that time span of farming most of Act II and part of Act III, I see no real accomplishment in the end, maybe about 50-75k gold between vendoring the level 60+ items and picking up gold per run. But even with 200 MF as I level paragon up, I am not finding those big money items, in 300-350 hours total in the game, I found 1 item that ever sold for more than 4 million, that was first month of the game, that item dropped on Act I inferno of all places.
Well the problem I see is, the people who is lucky to obtain that big money item they can sell and then gear themselves up begins to have it easy mode, the rich get richer effect, because a character decked out in gear that is going for 10-20m if not more a piece, is not even challenged the least bit, plus they are able to obtain more of these rare items, if what they say is true about the AH is determining factor on loot drops, wont this be taking a good bit of high money loot drops out of the lower end of the table where the casuals and players who put in at the most 5 hours day?
I am seeing a pretty big gap in this game between low end and high end, one that I have not ever seen since Everquest which was a MMO game and those gaps could be filled by the player, this game, I am not even sure for most its even possible to fill that void in its current situation.
20m-400m or some ungodly gold amount items selling for on the AH, is a pretty damn big gap from 1m-10m area that 90% of this player base is stuck in when it comes to buying your gear.
Painfully enough, the 20m-400m crowd was either rolling all 7s on the slot machine on a particular day, or they spent a good bit of money on the RMAH.
One could almost feel as if this game has become very dependent on players using it as a job and source of income at the uber top of this food chain and its hurting anything below that.
I got both a Barb and Wiz, I had the Barb just after about a month after launch when I thought the Wizard was too weak of a class and was not doing things it should be doing, mostly I was looking at Demon Hunters doing things Wizards should of been doing, Wizards was doing more things Demon hunters should of been doing, I rolled Barb and thought it easier time progression wise, then along came the WW build, now they nerfing that........to me their is just no direction in this game, I got a couple million gold setting around because I dunno what to do with it.
But does anyone see that his gap is too big and the uber leet crowd is not only ignorant about this game, but also got it too easy?
Diablo II wasnt quite bad to that extent with this huge void in between.
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Is there some sort of guide to go by for each piece into knowing what each piece needs for stats? Rings? Boots? weps?
Weapons has killed me because I dont know what they need to sell.
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Well this is what I thought to, but is it pieces with both Crit dmg and Crit %?
Where does resistance play in at?
Most items I am seeing on the AH to my eyes dont seem worth the price they asking, often times lack resistance but are high in price due to many other stats outside of just crit.
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The RMAH I thought would give an opportunity for some players to make a buck, but I look at it today and the one thing I notice the most is the price of gold is at .50 per million. Basically a whole $1 gets you 2 million gold. I ask.......with cheap prices like this, is anything but gold even selling on the RMAH? Its easy to pull out a Jefferson, get 40 million gold, and then move on to the GAH. Is anyone really selling anything anymore in the RMAH?
This leads me to loot, legendaries, set items, and with that said, I ask..........wtf determines a price on loot? Use to it was all about the Resistance and high main stat items with vitality, for casters it was all about the high damage 2h weps + attk speed %, now it seems to be all about Crit % and Crit damage %. As this game seems geared toward that, I thought this was where the money was, apparently not, matter of fact I am not quite understanding what is selling for what, I ask for Price Checks in chat for say this item I have had for quite a while now:
Sinister Necklace
Str 154
vit 163
arcane resist 40
all resist 34
crit chance 6%
Thats one of the prime pieces I been trying to find a price on, you type in stats similar to that on AH rounding to nearest 10th (150, 160, 40, 30, 6) and nothing pops up in the AH.
people in chat says its about 30 million, other times people will tell me I wont get much for it.
But then when I find the crit % items, items of similar upon the search in the AH is not even a million, some is like 10,000 gold (LOL Really?)
I am lost, granted I came back into Diablo about 5 days ago, and my Barb is crappy geared (can do MP3 but its hard, MP2 more suited) I am just finding an identity crisis when it comes to loot, what the hell is selling? Outside the fact I can farm till I am blue in the fact in all the acts and never find a legendary or set items, even though my MF is at 300%. (Paragon 11). Least in Diablo II a unique (Legendary in D3) would drop once in a while, same with set items. In Diablo III and since the last many months, it seems I have went into an endless loop, I am not one for farming gold, I hate it when the price of it is a joke, but its set here for 2-3 hours, and basically kill many elite packs, maybe a boss or 2, and their is nothing to show for it but a little bit of EXP for the Paragon.
I am sure this topic will get shredded by trolls, because quite frankly, no one cares about casuals and most of the players left playing this game is elitist who got lucky or spent a fortune.
thoughts?
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In a way, but they should just remove Legacy items in the first place.
All that has done is give players the key to pull off these scams or whatever you want to call it.
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Its more than getting scammed.
people get scammed because the system is so easy to exploit in the first place.
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last few years they probably shouldnt be paying a Sub for WOW either.
Its the same way but down played more in that game due to its numbers than in D3.
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Blizzard is ignorant bunch when they started hiring players and other employees out of Sony after WOW was released, Most of what they hired out of Sony was those type of players who were the cheating the system, scamming, botting, and it allows those very players to get by with it more and more.
As for the program to control the mouse and drop items...............Is this in Diablo 3 now as well? I know it was in Diablo 2 or is that tech support rep having flash backs to Diablo 2?
They may of not watched the video.
Like I said, they are ignorant.
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No they let it be flooded with topics no one wants to see because its all related to Barbs and WW.
Is Blizzard protecting Scammers?
maybe.
I can tell you first hand in World of Warcraft back some time back their was some Gold Farmers/Sellers, Scammers, I have seen some of them go on for over a year, if they were ever banned, I dunno.
Look at Diablo II hardly anyone was banned in that game.
As you see in the chat in the OP, In game reporting does nothing.........It dont. It really dont.
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The figure it out part is spend a fortune on the RMAH or get lucky.
Thats the "Figure it out"
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Well we really dont know that unless you knew what the loot was going to be before so and so class or technique was used to enter a dungeon.
In the end it was really all theory, but at least a Theory is something that was not proven wrong, nor was it really proven right.
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Could be more people up there at uber end gear wise and all who is making their living farming, which is affecting drops on the lower end.
This system over time caters to who has the best gear and easier time to plow through elites and trash.
It just completely screws over the low end because nothing useful will drop.
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In World of Warcraft their was techniques used to enter certain dungeons for raids and at times, 5 man instances.
These techniques would involve at times what class went in first, with what, what we had kind of figured out was, the moment you entered a dungeon, the loot table had already became pre-determined on mobs and bosses, all you needed to do was just simply kill them and take it.
I can see this very much being the case in Diablo III as well.
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But one of the questions I have asked in this game, is there too big of a gap?
heres the reason why I think so.
I could be called Casual player, but thats because I cannot stand to really be logged in Diablo III for more than 3 hours a day usually, in that time span of farming most of Act II and part of Act III, I see no real accomplishment in the end, maybe about 50-75k gold between vendoring the level 60+ items and picking up gold per run. But even with 200 MF as I level paragon up, I am not finding those big money items, in 300-350 hours total in the game, I found 1 item that ever sold for more than 4 million, that was first month of the game, that item dropped on Act I inferno of all places.
Well the problem I see is, the people who is lucky to obtain that big money item they can sell and then gear themselves up begins to have it easy mode, the rich get richer effect, because a character decked out in gear that is going for 10-20m if not more a piece, is not even challenged the least bit, plus they are able to obtain more of these rare items, if what they say is true about the AH is determining factor on loot drops, wont this be taking a good bit of high money loot drops out of the lower end of the table where the casuals and players who put in at the most 5 hours day?
I am seeing a pretty big gap in this game between low end and high end, one that I have not ever seen since Everquest which was a MMO game and those gaps could be filled by the player, this game, I am not even sure for most its even possible to fill that void in its current situation.
20m-400m or some ungodly gold amount items selling for on the AH, is a pretty damn big gap from 1m-10m area that 90% of this player base is stuck in when it comes to buying your gear.
Painfully enough, the 20m-400m crowd was either rolling all 7s on the slot machine on a particular day, or they spent a good bit of money on the RMAH.
One could almost feel as if this game has become very dependent on players using it as a job and source of income at the uber top of this food chain and its hurting anything below that.
I got both a Barb and Wiz, I had the Barb just after about a month after launch when I thought the Wizard was too weak of a class and was not doing things it should be doing, mostly I was looking at Demon Hunters doing things Wizards should of been doing, Wizards was doing more things Demon hunters should of been doing, I rolled Barb and thought it easier time progression wise, then along came the WW build, now they nerfing that........to me their is just no direction in this game, I got a couple million gold setting around because I dunno what to do with it.
But does anyone see that his gap is too big and the uber leet crowd is not only ignorant about this game, but also got it too easy?
Diablo II wasnt quite bad to that extent with this huge void in between.