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Quote from Ameko

Just toss it out here: I did the Key Warden in Act1 8 times without the key dropping once.
Inferno monster level 6

So I don't expect the drop chance of the key to be anywhere close to even 40%

Did you have full NV? I've heard it helps(or maybe just that MF helps) but take that with a grain of salt.

Quote from Fl4sh123

I dont get their problem with the CM Wizard build. They say they needed to nerf it because of the new legendary procs. Please tell me which legendary proc is so powerful that it would be a gamechanger? None of it deals that high damage, maximus is nice, but everyone uses that on the follower, because the weapon is not that great. I dont think this reason can justify nerfing a very fun build. I played all classes, my main is not a wizard, but it would be great to see different characters in my party doing different things (i feel boring to play with 4 of the same class, even the same build). If wizards loose the CM/SC build and they probably loose the infinite archon build because on higher monster powers u cant keep archon up) than noone will farm with wizard...

Having a skill with a broken proc coefficient is just too good at too many things. Crazy survivability with life on hit, crazy legendary procs, crazy triggering of skills like Critical Mass and Into the Fray, etc. It just breaks the intent of that game system and kills build variety like we've seen with Barbs. Like they said, once they introduced the higher levels of Monster Power it became clear how insane an advantage it is to get so many of those procs.

If your build doesn't work at MP10 that really isn't a big deal, just don't farm it. They're very specifically designing it so that you never have to touch it if you don't want to and you can still farm all the best loot.

Having to re-farm the keys makes perfect sense because they don't want people farming bosses over and over, that's been the case since the very start. Now that all the acts are the same difficulty, just do normal farming runs across the three of them and add the key wardens to your run. Then once in a while you get an Infernal Machine and can try for another ring. I do wish you didn't lose the machine the moment the portal opens whether or not the boss dies though...

There are various rumors about how Monster Power affects things - it makes keys drop more often, it makes ring mats drop more often, etc... Nothing confirmed though as far as I know.

Quote from UberMey

Im not getting it right, is mf affecting the affixes roll?

what should the mlvl improve on drops? I just cant see a good point on it, more mf means more rares, more rares means more time lost identifying trash as the affixes are just bad ...

http://us.battle.net...ment#magic-find

MF improves the chance of any given magic drop being a legendary, or a 6 affix rare, or a 5 affix rare, etc. So the items you find will be of a higher quality overall.

Each stack of monster power doesn't make a huge difference, but activating Monster Power 1 changes all of Act 1/2's monsters to be Act 3 difficulty. That includes their droprates.

Really really glad to see the return of constant-difficulty Inferno. This seems like the best possible solution - normal progression until you beat it, play wherever you want afterwards. That last 1.0.5 interview actually got updated after the fact to say this, lol.

Quote from lorien1973

The Realm of Chaos - Ghom and Raknoth.

This one, by far, seems like the most difficult.

Those guys handled it no problem, but got their butts kicked by Skeleton King + Maghda. Turns out SK does a ton of damage and double tornado isn't such a great build for avoiding attacks.

Something big that most people don't know yet about Monster Power:

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/237380-what-mp-is-104-equivalent-too/#post1

Monster Power is considered "on" once you bump it up to Monster Power 1, at which point all monsters in Inferno become level 63. "No Monster Power" means that the system is technically "off," so monster levels will remain the same and you won't get any of the scaling XP/GF/MF boosts.

In others words, the moment you turn on MP, Inferno becomes a constant difficuly across all acts. Act 1 MP1 = Act 4 MP1. Everything is level 63.

What are you maniacs doing with the stash you've got now? I haven't even bought a second tab yet!

Quote from BombayMD

No answer to Sprint and Run Like the Wind???

If you're looking for an explanation, just go read the Wizard update from 1.0.4.

Quote from bmiha

So, we still don't have this sorted out - if you set the monster level to max , you can only have more MF ,meaning you use more MF gear ,MF shrine stacks after 375,400 or whatever is max MF atm, BUT you don't actually get more and better loot if monster level is set to max. Hmm ,so elites are 10 times harder to kill but don't reward better loot ? Well they do, if you have 100000000 MF + the enough kick to go through them. Interesting.

If I'm wrong ,correct me please. I'm also interested in how exactly it will work .Thanks

They said very specifically they don't want higher MP to feel mandatory, which it would if it had an exclusive tier of loot or whatever. It should be the most efficient farming for people who can do it, but not a must for everyone who wants to play the "real" endgame.

Quote from Benegesserit

and in return players will receive scaling bonuses to experience (for heroes levels 1-60)

This is either a typo or they changed their minds about level 60 players getting xp for ML

It was ambiguous phrasing in the patch notes. You do get exp at 60 in the PTR.

It doesn't seem like many people are really putting together the impact of the item ilvl change, but it's actually very significant. If I'm interpreting it correctly, it means that when you're farming Act 3(which everybody who can, already does, let's be honest) every single item will roll stats as if it was an ilvl63 item. Even those previously useless level 58 ones. The only drawback to finding a lower ilvl item now is that its base stats are a bit lower, but it could still turn out really good. ilvl61 and ilvl62 items are going to be much stronger overall in this patch. And for rings and amulets, item level might literally not mean anything anymore, they're all ilvl63(?). This is basically the fix for "too much crap loot blizz, wtf" complaint that people have had since the beginning.

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Quote from NirXY

amazing patch to be honest,
they really touched everything that I found annoying/broken.

only thing I dislike is :
"..in return they’ll receive scaling bonuses to experience (for heroes levels 1-59)".

but cannot complain really.

It does say "as well as" after that so it's a bit ambiguous. Not providing any exp incentive for Monster Power after having just added the Paragon incentive would be extremely short sighted.

Not really. Better loot is more than enough incentive (especially since loot is quickly irrelevant as you level in this game but means everything at 60). With the XP shrines, possible gear bonuses to XP, and the NV buff, I think Blizzard wants to cap how fast people can make it to 100. They really want it to take a while. Besides, better loot = improved combat efficiency which means killing faster thus faster XP anyway. Just not as dramatic as the sub-60 improvements.

Higher monster power presumably means dramatically more HP which would mean slower exp. It would be silly not to at least increase the exp rate enough to compensate for that.

Quote from NirXY

amazing patch to be honest,
they really touched everything that I found annoying/broken.

only thing I dislike is :
"..in return they’ll receive scaling bonuses to experience (for heroes levels 1-59)".

but cannot complain really.

It does say "as well as" after that so it's a bit ambiguous. Not providing any exp incentive for Monster Power after having just added the Paragon incentive would be extremely short sighted.

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Quote from kilo56

When it comes to the NV stacks and skill swapping I see no problem with the way it is. If a champ pack gives you problems it isn't because of your skills it's because of your gear, plain and simple.

Wrong. Try playing a wizard against a fast jailer vortex frozen spider pack. Now try it with all skills available. Having the ability to switch to have a ton of escape abilities completely changes the game.

No longer do you have to make strategic choices in your build and create a balanced set of skills, just keep changing them until it works.

Should I remind you, PLAYERS asked for build permanence. PLAYERS were playing with the skill window open. Do you want to go back to playing with the skill window open?

Keep in mind that there's still the skill swap delay. Nobody wants to have to switch constantly to clear content. D3 has undergone a big philosophy change since launch, moving away from high difficulty "you have to earn your progression" playthrough and towards fun farming with efficiency being the goal. Inferno being super hard was also done based on player demand and it ended up being a bad idea.

I'm undecided on this issue, but I do think it warrants revisiting with the current state of the game(after 1.0.5). Just last night I was doing an Act 3 clear while reworking my build to see what worked, and found it quite annoying that my farming was basically a wash due to the absence of NV.