i found thousands of set n unique items in d2.. did that make me want to stop finding items after I had those items? no, because i knew that with those items i could
Thousands of set and uniques? In Hell? Over how long? LOL is all I can say to that.
I don't find his statement hard to believe at all.
I played D2 for about 7 years, and doing meph/pindle runs nonstop would net you a unique/set item on average every 3 runs, sometimes more, sometimes less. Considering you could do a run in 30 seconds, someone playing for 5+ hours a day could easily farm up 100 uniques, per day.
They dropped FAR more often than they do in D3.
thanks for the backing up.. even if i wasnt doing baal/meph/pindy runs all e time.. even spending 15 mins to clear hell cows on /p8 on my amazon netted me at least 1 unique, if not 3-4 per run..yes most of them were not as good as what i had already found, but at least i knew i had a chance at getting something better..
in d3, i know i hardly have a chance of getting 'something better', and when a 'possible something better" drops, it usually rolls bad.. its like playing roulette where if you bet on a number, say 0, and the wheel stops at 0, the casino then asks you to bet again on another number for the next spin before you win. ridiculous odds if you tell me
Saw this on the official forums that I though was a great summary of the itemisation atm:
If they make the good items more common they are not any more expensive in the AH soon. Soon it will be common gear and finding upgrades will be even more difficult. Soon you would need to roll the desired stats with close to perfect rolls on the stats. Now you need to roll most of the desired stats with quite high values to earn some money or get yourself an upgrade.
meh... e AH again.. i cldnt care less how much things cost on the AH.. I havent bought anything from the AH and finding upgrades is already super difficult.. dont we already need to roll the desired stats already?
i found thousands of set n unique items in d2.. did that make me want to stop finding items after I had those items? no, because i knew that with those items i could
1) farm faster to give me a higher chance of getting better stuff
2) find more items by MYSELF or with friends from DROPS
everyday there're tons are threads on the bnet forums discussing about the lack of loot.. and they arent just whine threads,but constructive threads, some with research and some with solid thoughts put into them.. is it that hard for blizz to see where the problem is?
the recent "identify 1000 rares video" also shows how lousy the idemisation and how stupidly random the rolls were.. a THOUSAND items and barely a handful are good.. gosh..
again, before ppl say:"farm faster, kill faster, be more efficient", its back to the AH again, aint it? how many of us here can "farm effectively" for items w/o anything bought from the AH? my barb can do act 3, but takes slightly over an hour just to clear half of the act.. and no, i have no items that arent self found...
6 yrs of D1, 12 yrs of D2 n LoD, and many more hours in games like borderlands, Titan quest and even dungeon siege 1, 2 n 3... none of them have such a bad loot system/drop rate...
and i am loosing faith after 4 months of d3..
to quote something from the blizz forums: "You are meant to be a hero, I feel in D3 that my character is a homeless bum sifting through trash cans of discarded loot looking for the least worse items to keep or try and flog for two bits."
heck even the bum from Batman begins had wayne give him a nice coat. we dun even have a carrot to eat.
Well I never said anything about not having the AH at all. All I said that I dont want to rely on the AH to get drops that were not meant to be that rare in the first place. I never said that the D2 system is perfect - yes we know have a stable way to trade, less scams and all, but surely a game in 2012 compared to 2000 should have made those improvements? Isn't Diablo, or most ARPG, loot games? carrot and stick to the core? with no new skills to earn past lvl 60 and only the item grind to keep things going for the moment, is the current "carrot" for players is for them to learn to flip or snipe items on the AH? I also never said about finding ALL the gear on my own.
What if the drop rates are increased? are you afraid that no one will use the AH anymore? Nope, people would still want to use the AH to find the items that RNG fails to give them.. as I said that near-perfect roll or missing set item. Everyone benefits, prices get more stable as ppl start to post more gear that is found on the AH. The perfect gears are still pricey, and the odds of getting them in-game are still ridiculously low due to random stats. So, what harm will raising the drop rates do?
Before people say that I am raging and ask me to stop being emo or taking things out of my arse, I am still playing the game with a passion. Its just that the game could be so much more.
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thanks for the backing up.. even if i wasnt doing baal/meph/pindy runs all e time.. even spending 15 mins to clear hell cows on /p8 on my amazon netted me at least 1 unique, if not 3-4 per run..yes most of them were not as good as what i had already found, but at least i knew i had a chance at getting something better..
in d3, i know i hardly have a chance of getting 'something better', and when a 'possible something better" drops, it usually rolls bad.. its like playing roulette where if you bet on a number, say 0, and the wheel stops at 0, the casino then asks you to bet again on another number for the next spin before you win. ridiculous odds if you tell me
Saw this on the official forums that I though was a great summary of the itemisation atm:
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/8853/infographic.jpg
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meh... e AH again.. i cldnt care less how much things cost on the AH.. I havent bought anything from the AH and finding upgrades is already super difficult.. dont we already need to roll the desired stats already?
i found thousands of set n unique items in d2.. did that make me want to stop finding items after I had those items? no, because i knew that with those items i could
1) farm faster to give me a higher chance of getting better stuff
2) find more items by MYSELF or with friends from DROPS
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again, before ppl say:"farm faster, kill faster, be more efficient", its back to the AH again, aint it? how many of us here can "farm effectively" for items w/o anything bought from the AH? my barb can do act 3, but takes slightly over an hour just to clear half of the act.. and no, i have no items that arent self found...
6 yrs of D1, 12 yrs of D2 n LoD, and many more hours in games like borderlands, Titan quest and even dungeon siege 1, 2 n 3... none of them have such a bad loot system/drop rate...
and i am loosing faith after 4 months of d3..
to quote something from the blizz forums: "You are meant to be a hero, I feel in D3 that my character is a homeless bum sifting through trash cans of discarded loot looking for the least worse items to keep or try and flog for two bits."
heck even the bum from Batman begins had wayne give him a nice coat. we dun even have a carrot to eat.
where's my carrot?
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in d2 at least if there issnt a unique sacred plate dropping, it could be a unique lvl 42 barb helm that is super useful
in d3, anything not ilvl 62 or 63 is practically useless.. not to mention anything orange is super rare, let alone green.
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What if the drop rates are increased? are you afraid that no one will use the AH anymore? Nope, people would still want to use the AH to find the items that RNG fails to give them.. as I said that near-perfect roll or missing set item. Everyone benefits, prices get more stable as ppl start to post more gear that is found on the AH. The perfect gears are still pricey, and the odds of getting them in-game are still ridiculously low due to random stats. So, what harm will raising the drop rates do?
Before people say that I am raging and ask me to stop being emo or taking things out of my arse, I am still playing the game with a passion. Its just that the game could be so much more.