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I don't find a statement like "A graphic novel is essentially a long comic book." to be very accurate, but that's not to say it doesn't hold any water. I much prefer graphic novel to comics. Not that I don't enjoy comics. But graphic novels usually have much broader and much deeper plots and characters.

While it is true many graphic novels are published under the Vertigo company which is a subsidiary of DC Comics. DC comics is famous for characters such as Superman and Wonder Woman. But under the Vertigo portion is where you find the much grander literary works such as Watchmen, V For Vendetta, Hellblazer, Sandman, Preacher, 100 Bullets (and maybe 30 Days of Night, I think Vertigo did that one too). These titles may contain super heroes (as is the case with watchmen) but often they are not super heroes much in the same way as mainstream DC. Them being a super hero is secondary or even tertiary to the main story, which usually deals with much more philosophical or religious or political material.

Or sometimes they don't. Others such as those that are I guess considered gothic horror or gothic fantasy usually deal with someone or a group or people finding who the really are, in the case of Darrian Ashoka in the Dawn series he is coming to terms with the realisation he is the embodiment of Cernunnos, the horned god of Death, and the woman he loves and idolises is if fact the wife of Cernunnos. Or like most things present in the gothic genre as a whole it is full of vampires and other such monsters from fantasy.

Too a lesser extent you can, to a point, classify manga as graphic novel. As several manga share many of the same traits of graphic novels of western society. Probably one ofthe most notable manga in this regard is Ghost in the Shell, with its philosophical debates about the nature of the soul and whether or not it is possible that a robot can possess a soul, and similarily when robots learn to feel, who decides what is human? It also deals alot with the works of Isaac Asimov, clearly since the name of the manga is similar to asimov's work "Ghost in the machine". The burring between the line of human and robot appears in a lot of graphic novels and in comics, but it's in Ghost in the Shell that it is really questioned, where as in most comics very little thought is given to what the blurring of that line actually means.

Perhaps another point of differentiating between comic and graphic novel is the amount of "graphic" violence, language drug use and sexual content present. Graphic novels are rather "graphic". While present in comics, it is in much smaller doses compared to the graphic novel. Even if they are about the same thing. Frank Miller's Batman graphic novels (which he actually got complaints about and was asked to stop making them) is quite removed from the Batman in the majority of DC comics. Frank's Batman is much more brutal and forceful and not above the law, often seen breaking bones and killing the scum of the underworld, be they pimps, whores, drug dealers, drug addicts mobsters, as well as the usual minion of the bad guys (like Two Face and the Joker).

Graphic novels do tend to catch a bit of crap from being passed off as mere comics and being lumped in with the throngs of rather generic super hero stuff. Which is sad. I wouldn't call Godspeed: The Kurt Cobain story a comic like I would call Witchblade or Tomb Raider, and not just because its about Kurt Cobain of Nirvana fame, but that is part of it. I wouldn't call it a comic because of the nature of it and how deep it goes into it's subject matter, which isn't so much about the band Nirvana, but delves into Kurt's addictions to various drugs as well as his creative processes he used to his songs and to make his art (some of which he made from blood and semen). Hardly seems like a comic that. But it does help if you like Nirvana/Kurt if you read that one. But it is good. It won a few writer's awards

But that is up to your personal interpretation.

Any one here read Der Freischutz? Or rather seen it being performed as it is an opera?

Just bought Hellsing Ultimate volume IV today, and the character Rip Van Winkle sings Das Wild in Fluren und Triften which is from Der Freischutz, which roughly translates to The Free Shooter or The Marksman.


It was the opening portion of the song that was used in the anime, but it just sounded so beautiful. Propbably because it was a chick singing in the anime as opposed to a man in the opera. But I have heard a male singing it and it still sounds good.


I must see this opera sometime, or at the least read it. Marksmen making deals with Zamiel (The Devil) fails to hold up his end then getting his soul dragged down to hell and his body thrown in a ravine and devoured by wolves. And no fat chicks.

But that being said Walkurenritt has a fat chick in it and I love that opera too. Die Walkure (The call of the Valkries( is a brillant song.


Opening lyrics to Das Wild in Fluren und Triften

Mein Sohn, nur Mut!
Wer Gott vertraut, baut gut!
etzt auf! In Bergen und Kluften (the u in Kluften is actually the U with the dots above it. Site doesnt like that symbol)
Tobt morgen der freudige Krieg!

Das Wild in Fluren und Triften,
Der Aar in Wolken und Luften (the u in Luften is actually the U with the dots above it. Site doesnt like that symbol)
Ist unser, und unser der Sieg!
der Sieg! der Sieg! der Sieg!



My son, have courage!
Who trusts God, builds good
Let's go! In Mountains and abyss
Tomorrow rages the joyful war!

The game in fields and valleys
The eagle in clouds and air
Is our, and our is the victory!
the victory! the victory! the victory!

Incredibles had super heroes going into hiding to avoid law suits from people who didn't want to get saved. Until some villian turns up and forces them out of retirement

Watchmen has a super heroes, retired ones, getting killed, but only a few people know that they were super heroes. Police ass it off as some thug getting whacked. No one really retires in Watchmen to avoid anything and one guy doesn't retire. He leaves a "Never" sign on a multiple rapist that he dumped outside a Police HQ (after breaking the rapists face in). And several superheores end up working for the government making bombs and doing other jobs.

Bought the graphic novel about a month ago. I love Alan Moore's work. He also did V for Vendetta (and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but that one was better as the book).

I really like watchmen, it should be interesting to see how it turns out as a movie, what gets left out what gets added, and will it retain the same feel as the book. V for Vendetta was quite different as a movie. In the movie it was clear V was a good guy, whereas in the novel he is an anti-hero. He is not the villain yet neither is he a man who does the right thing, he does a lot of bad things in the novel that got left out or changed in the movie.

I like the character of Rorschach in the novel version of Watchmen. so yeah it will be interesting to see what they have done with him in the movie. Which I think comes out here May 5th. Boo. That's too long.

We wouldn't need to do this if everyone had followed the rules we set out years ago, before I stepped in an officiated them.

We as a group all decided on Destromath. Even took a vote on it. Then people went all over the place. Except for me.

I'm not particuallr keen on changing now actually. Got a lot of good mates on Destromath.


But I will say this, if we say one realm or server for us to use on Diablo 3 people had better do it and stick with it, or voice your concerns before we decide on the realm/server.

Quote from "Num3n" »

there is either a game move or song that i have heard that uses this:


-I act as God's own wrath upon the Earth, raining down the divine punishment of Heaven,
In nomine Patri, et Fili, in spiritu sancti, amen

please link me up

Hellsing. The Irish catholic priest says it. Father Alexander Anderson the Paladin. The one that works for the Vatican's Section 13, The Iscariot Organisation.

Diablo: Hellfire also uses "In spiritu Sancti"

Almost any latin prayer will use In nomine patri, et fili in spiritu sancti. Its latin for In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (or Spirit).




10 Commandments
Moses: No son could have more love for you than I.
Sethi: Then why are you forcing me to destroy you? What evil has done this to you?
Moses: The evil that men should turn their brothers into beasts of burden, to be stripped of spirit, and hope, and strength - only because they are of another race, another creed. If there is a god, he did not mean this to be so.

The city that he builds shall bear my name, the woman that he loves shall bear my child. So let it be written, so let it be done.

Let the name of Moses be stricken from every book and tablet. Stricken from every pylon and obelisk of Egypt. Let the name of Moses be unheard and unspoken, erased from the memory of man, for all time.

Bound to be some repeats in here as I didn't check it over properly (It happens).

Winston Churchill
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

A joke is a very serious thing.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.

A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.

All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.

Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.

Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.

Baldwin thought Europe was a bore, and Chamberlain thought it was only a greater Birmingham.

Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.

Before Alamein we never had a victory. After Alamein we never had a defeat.

Broadly speaking, the short words are the best, and the old words best of all.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.

Courage is rightly esteemed the first of human qualities... because it is the quality which guarantees all others.

Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.

Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.

Difficulties mastered are opportunities won.

Do not let spacious plans for a new world divert your energies from saving what is left of the old.

Eating words has never given me indigestion.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

Everyone has his day and some days last longer than others.

For good or for ill, air mastery is today the supreme expression of military power and fleets and armies, however vital and important, must accept a subordinate rank.

For my part, I consider that it will be found much better by all parties to leave the past to history, especially as I propose to write that history myself.

From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain has descended across the Continent.

Great and good are seldom the same man.

He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.

Healthy citizens are the greatest asset any country can have.

History is written by the victors.

History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

I always avoid prophesying beforehand, because it is a much better policy to prophesy after the event has already taken place.

I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.

I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught.

I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.

I am bored with it all.

I am certainly not one of those who need to be prodded. In fact, if anything, I am the prod.

I am easily satisfied with the very best.

I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.

I am never going to have anything more to do with politics or politicians. When this war is over I shall confine myself entirely to writing and painting.

I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.

I cannot pretend to be impartial about the colours. I rejoice with the brilliant ones, and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns.

I have been brought up and trained to have the utmost contempt for people who get drunk.

I have never developed indigestion from eating my words.

I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.

I like a man who grins when he fights.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

I never worry about action, but only inaction.

I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.

I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.

If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

If the Almighty were to rebuild the world and asked me for advice, I would have English Channels round every country. And the atmosphere would be such that anything which attempted to fly would be set on fire.

If the human race wishes to have a prolonged and indefinite period of material prosperity, they have only got to behave in a peaceful and helpful way toward one another.

If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future.

If you are going through hell, keep going.

If you go on with this nuclear arms race, all you are going to do is make the rubble bounce.

If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-with a tremendous whack.

If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law.

In the course of my life, I have often had to eat my words, and I must confess that I have always found it a wholesome diet.

In those days he was wiser than he is now; he used to frequently take my advice.

In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.

In war, you can only be killed once, but in politics, many times.

In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.

India is a geographical term. It is no more a united nation than the Equator.

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

It is a fine thing to be honest, but it is also very important to be right.

It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations... The quotations, when engraved upon the memory, give you good thoughts. They also make you anxious to read the authors and look for more.

It is a mistake to look too far ahead. Only one link of the chain of destiny can be handled at a time.

It is always wise to look ahead, but difficult to look further than you can see.

It is more agreeable to have the power to give than to receive.

It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.

It was the nation and the race dwelling all round the globe that had the lion's heart. I had the luck to be called upon to give the roar.

Kites rise highest against the wind - not with it.

Let our advance worrying become advance thinking and planning.

Meeting Franklin Roosevelt was like opening your first bottle of champagne; knowing him was like drinking it.

Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.

Most people stumble over the truth, now and then, but they usually manage to pick themselves up and go on, anyway.

Mr. Attlee is a very modest man. Indeed he has a lot to be modest about.

My most brilliant achievement was my ability to be able to persuade my wife to marry me.

My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.

My wife and I tried two or three times in the last 40 years to have breakfast together, but it was so disagreeable we had to stop.

Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.

Never, never, never give up.

"No comment" is a splendid expression. I am using it again and again.

No crime is so great as daring to excel.

No idea is so outlandish that it should not be considered with a searching but at the same time a steady eye.

No part of the education of a politician is more indispensable than the fighting of elections.

Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of civilization.

Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

One does not leave a convivial party before closing time.

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!

Perhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.

Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game.

Politics are very much like war. We may even have to use poison gas at times.

Politics is almost as exciting as war, and quite as dangerous. In war you can only be killed once, but in politics many times.

Politics is not a game. It is an earnest business.

Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.

Really I feel less keen about the Army every day. I think the Church would suit me better.

Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Solitary trees, if they grow at all, grow strong.

Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.

Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft.

Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

Sure I am of this, that you have only to endure to conquer. You have only to persevere to save yourselves.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

The British nation is unique in this respect. They are the only people who like to be told how bad things are, who like to be told the worst.

The empires of the future are the empires of the mind.

The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you can see.

The first quality that is needed is audacity.

The great defense against the air menace is to attack the enemy's aircraft as near as possible to their point of departure.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being read.

The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

The power of an air force is terrific when there is nothing to oppose it.

The power of man has grown in every sphere, except over himself.

The price of greatness is responsibility.

The problems of victory are more agreeable than the problems of defeat, but they are no less difficult.

The problems of victory are more agreeable than those of defeat, but they are no less difficult.

The reserve of modern assertions is sometimes pushed to extremes, in which the fear of being contradicted leads the writer to strip himself of almost all sense and meaning.

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.

There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true.

There are two things that are more difficult than making an after-dinner speech: climbing a wall which is leaning toward you and kissing a girl who is leaning away from you.

There is no such thing as a good tax.

There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.

There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.

These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.

This is no time for ease and comfort. It is time to dare and endure.

Those who can win a war well can rarely make a good peace and those who could make a good peace would never have won the war.

To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day.

To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.

To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war.

Too often the strong, silent man is silent only because he does not know what to say, and is reputed strong only because he has remained silent.

True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.

Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.

War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.

War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.

We are all worms. But I believe that I am a glow-worm.

We are asking the nations of Europe between whom rivers of blood have flowed to forget the feuds of a thousand years.

We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out.

We are stripped bare by the curse of plenty.

We do not covet anything from any nation except their respect.

We have always found the Irish a bit odd. They refuse to be English.

We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.

We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.

We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us.

We shape our dwellings, and afterwards our dwellings shape us.

When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home.

When the war of the giants is over the wars of the pygmies will begin.

When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.

When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.

Without tradition, art is a flock of sheep without a shepherd. Without innovation, it is a corpse.

You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

My barb builds have changed a lot after LOD came because BO gives so much more HP now than it was then. People generally didn't put more than 10 points to BO because it suffered diminishing returns which resulted ofc a lot less HP. So back then I did everything to get as much vita as possible.

Actually quite a lot of people max out Battle Orders. I do. And I did pre LOD. It was the only warcry I would put any real amount of points into. But before synergies I would use Iron Skin and Natural Resistance, instead of maxing out Double Swing for the bonus damage to Frenzy.

I personally have no issue with the game assigning the stats for me, I generally make my characters the way the game will endeavour to do anyway. My "mage" caster types have less Vitality and Strength but more Energy that "Warriors" While Warriors have the absolute minimalistic amount of Energy.

If anyone has played WOW long enough to see what happens whe nyou level up thats pretty much my style.

"Warrior"
STR +3
DEX +1
VIT +2
ENG +1

"Mage"
STR +1
DEX +2
VIT +1
ENG +3

Or something to that effect. Essentially each class is given more stats in its primary attribute and less in the ones that really have no or little effect on it.

Diablo 1 may not have had auto stats, but id did have some sort of favouritism.

Warrior
Max Str 250
Max Dex 60
Max Vit 100
Max Mag 50

Rogue
Max Str 55
Max Dex 250
Max Vit 80
Max Mag 70

Sorcerer
Max Str 45
Max Dex 85
Max Vit 80
Max Mag 250

Each one played to the classes strengths. The warrior had the most Str and Vit so he could pound away and take the brunt of the damage, the Rogue had the most Dex (also the requirement of bows), while the Sorcerer had the most magic so he could cast his spells without depleting his mana after his third spell.

Diablo II change this as each stat could go up to 9999999 (I think that was the limit, 7 numbers but if it got too big (like with a lot of 0's (which are a wide number) it just simplified it by denoting 1000 with the k symbol), thats including bonus from items/skills.

Personally I found that to be quite rediculous. I'm a role player, and while that has no true bearing on the Diablo it does present a certai nmentality, one usually backed by Auto assign stats. The Warriors get more life than wizards, wizards get more "intelligence", "wisdom" "Magic" or "Energy" than warriors. Which to me makes sense. But its nice to decide for yourself. If you want a mage with lots of life you should be able to do that. But it is really annoying though. I finally get passed your insane amount of mana due to your high Energy which I am forced to widdle away from you because of Mana shield and now I have to beat down your insane amount of life because you beefed up your vitality, that is not cool for some of us.

But then again Diablo (and Diablo 2) is an easy game to hack. I can just make myself do 15670k damage. That should take care of things for the most part.

My younger brother played in at a friend's house and would always tell me about it. The friend in question was like A family friend. The children in both families would routinely stay at each others houses, we sort of matched up quite nicely, we were the same ages, except for me and the guy who owned Diablo 1. he was older than I was. So I was not there as often as I would have hoped. (Yeah less Diablo for me, at least for a while)

As the tales my brother span about the game became more and more intriguing, both myself and my other brother began to play it more and more. The tales were had heard tell of were indeed true.

As time went on, we soon began sick of sharing the one disc. bearing in mind this was back in 96 and few people back then had Cd burning programs let alone knew how to use a computer. Soon we bought our own copy. After performing various chores for the parentals. Actually working to get money to buy something you want. How strange. No one does that?! Bought it, loved it. Secretly wish I still had my orginal box. Good old flip front box 4 times the size of the matchbox crap games come in today. Yeah who remembers when computer games came in giant boxes with huge manuals and maps and catelogues with previews for other games?

No. Not in Diablo 1. That is why the "life bar" was instituted in D2.

Who knew people played a game for it's story. Don't people just play games for PVP? This is news to me.



Cutscenes, CGI cinematic, or ingame ones are primarily very engrossing and draw you into the story more (that is assuming the game has one to begin with). Too many cut scenes though and its overpowering and a tad boring, not to mention you have to in essence load all the cutscenes whether you actually see a Laoding bar or not. BGII anyone? (All though I personally did enjoy every one of them).

You don't need one every 5 minutes, but from what it seems that is kinda what we are going to get, as it looks like ever time you talk to an NPC or at least the first time you talk to them, or rather the first time you talk to an important NPC you get one. A cinematic preceeding every act or chapter, and an epilogue. Prologue(before act 1) 1 before act 2 1 before act 3 1 before act 4 and the epilogue worked nicely in D2 (Classic). The two extra ones the Expansion brought in were fine too. But a few little cut scenes for bosses couldnt hurt.

I wish the butcher movie was still in the game. But the Lazarus one was great.

This whole section is a scapegoat for butt-hurt mods/admins to silence particular debates and keep them from being held. (art-design anyone?)
Lame.

The art debate would and could still happen under the new rules. You just cannot post things like "new graphics = suxors. Screw you Blizzard. Anyone who likes the new art is gay and bums goats." And before you say anything, yes, someone actually said that. If someone wants to argue against something, say the new art direction they can, so long as they do it in a concise, logical, structured, informative meaningful and reasonable way. "Hate the game, not the player" Reducing people who think differently to you to "gay fags" is not needed.

And sadly that is what happened in a lot of threads where an arguement or debate was taking place. All that rule does is stop the flaming on the person. It doesn't stop you from voicing your oppinion on whether you like or dislike something.

Holy Bolt. It can be used much in the same way as Equinox suggests with the bow. Only it will do more damage.

In D1 Holy Bolt does what it is suppose to do, double damage against unholy creatures such as demons and the undead. Holy Bolt pwns Diablo. Sadly this spell got nerfed in D2. It's a shadow of its former righteous self.


Alternatively you can use a weapon with fast or very fast attack speed. Leoric uses a sodding great big sword. He attacks slow, but to make up for this speed deficit, he steals life (via the Undead Crown). If you can do more damage over a period of time that he can you will best him with ease.

I guess the other problem is he is not alone. But his minions are far weaker than he is. Just run around constantly whacking the fodder till you get him down to a one on one.

Well in Single Player anyways, in multiplayer he can summon guys too.

http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14611

You find the answer there plus a lot of other info as well.

Diablo 1 is quite late in the timeline as you can see.

HOMM3 was awesome. Though upgrading every single unit twice/three times was a little annoying sometimes. HOMM2 was truly awesome. Sandro is my guy! That guy is simply bad ass.

Go titans and Black Dragons. Epic battle between these two. Best archer unit vs best flying unit in the game. Or you could always go with 999 Halflings, lol.



Never got around to 4 and 5. Heard 4 sucked. Might try it some time though. Same with 5.