The actual D2 players:
The gamers from that era are no longer 18 or 19 years old, we're more like late 20s even 30s - we know how the world works, we've lived with absolute rubbish games back in the day and we appreciate the up and downsides of D3. We also know that Blizzard generally still provides the best quality and content when compared to any other game developer out there.
I think to this layer of gamers the game is ok. It's not brilliant yet, but it's definitely not something to cry about every day before sleep. 40-50 bucks is not something to cry about either, hell - beer for one night could cost way more than that. D3 is a potentially fantastic platform, give it some time and it will possibly develop into superb game, just like D2 did with LOD release - because lets face it original D2 was pretty damn boring.
The i played D2 gamers:
Yep they are early 20s or even below that, yet somehow despite the simplest calculus they played D2 for many years, even the original... These guys want INSTANT GRATIFICATION. They want to whine and cry and demand things - because lets face it - the modern society rewards whining and crying and demanding - that's the only thing they know and that's the only thing they will ever do.
They are the one and only mistake Blizzard ever made - listening to QQQQqqqQQQqqqQQqqqQQQ. Back in the day Blizzard never did bother with as much 'community management' or even really reading forums. They just released content and it was a simple decision - play it if you like, if you don't - there are many other games to choose from.
Today, because of all these QQs Blizzard actually made a step forward towards community and started working with the community (unlike any other game developer out there), and the only result of them trying to 'satisfy' the 'instant gratification generation' is the incessantly increasing amount of QQ. Because now...the QQers feel empowered! Blizzard did react to them a few times and that was their biggest mistake.
Hence there will always be 2 sides to this argument, and this argument is not based on the game itself, it is rather based on the perception of the world in general and the gap between generations. There will never be any agreement about it or any solution. If 'instant gratification' is not achieved = it's shit. End of story. Screw waiting, screw everything. I paid 40 bucks i want it NOW. While the rest of us are thinking 'wdf have we done to our younger generation? Should've sent them out to work at the age of 16 like we did instead'
@TheDemoKin
Don't you think you're being a bit immature by making such sweeping generalizations? I may be 20, not late twenties, but that doesn't mean that I sit and whine about the game (I enjoy it!) or that my opinion is less valid. I've been around since beta and all-in-all, I'd say D3 is a pretty solid game. There are issues, some of them big ones, but D3 has gameplay that just can't be beat, and I think Blizz will come through in the end.
I was just wondering what the best/cheapest upgrade would be for my barb? (excluding hellfire ring)
I sniped all my gear so I got it on the cheap but now upgrades seem super expensive
Any help would be appreciated :).
If you were banned from the Bnet forums you're probably one of the ones that makes it so bad...
Diablofans isn't meant to be the toilet for the banned.
I think that the current skilltab UI is a pretty big downgrade from what they used to have. They had a much better UI in beta before launch but then they switched it to the current consolesque version you see today. You know those arbitrary groups of skills like "Tactics" and "Rage"? Those never used to exist (so you didn't have to sidescroll through pages of random skills to find the one you want). Despite the massive outcry in beta they still rolled with the current UI (+the hidden elective mode).
If you guys spent less time doomcrying and actually playing you might realize that Star Pact on Meteor works just as well as WW in a CM build. It is slightly worse when it comes to hitting a group of fast kiting elites but it is far better in terms of damage. With the alleged buffs coming to Meteor, 1.0.4 might actually make CM builds even better than they were before.
I'm a critical mass wizard (although I could switch specs) that's having trouble killing Diablo. I can tank/damage him easily enough but my clone keeps killing me. I can use any type of help as long as you you're ready for Diablo.
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@TheDemoKin
Don't you think you're being a bit immature by making such sweeping generalizations? I may be 20, not late twenties, but that doesn't mean that I sit and whine about the game (I enjoy it!) or that my opinion is less valid. I've been around since beta and all-in-all, I'd say D3 is a pretty solid game. There are issues, some of them big ones, but D3 has gameplay that just can't be beat, and I think Blizz will come through in the end.
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I sniped all my gear so I got it on the cheap but now upgrades seem super expensive
Any help would be appreciated :).
http://us.battle.net...0/hero/22148720
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Diablofans isn't meant to be the toilet for the banned.
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Try Star Pact! It works.
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Tell me your BT and I'll add you!