Charms are stat sticks clustering the inventory. If they put them in a different container with a bonus to unlock if you use specific charms, that would be better.... that reminds me of the scrapped talisman idea, more or less. Surely, i don't want to see more items with just flat stat increase, gems are sad enough.

That's what we get when a really niche genre reaches the masses. Bitching and moaning because you don't have what you are looking for in a month of a grinding game. Yes, GRINDING. Maybe these ppl are the same that bitched about not getting that 2b gold loot on Vanilla and not being able to "progress" (because watching Streamers playing each day, multiple hours a day is a metric to see how far behind you are in the game and going crazy because they aren't farming T6 like they do).

Like MMO, this genre has reached a wider audience of players that don't grasp the concept that not every game should suit their habits and taste and i hope the hype train for this title and genre dies fast.

The flaws in this game aren't the drop rates, but the boring itemization that wasn't fixed. (Really, adding more, undesired stats into a 4/2 system doesn't make it dynamic, to use a word ruksak love).

Meh, i think they didn't create a choice for items at all with this expansion. The more i play, and the more i look at other players' gear, i always see the same combination of stats. Damage, Main Stat, Socket, % damage on weapon; Elemental Damage, Main Stat, Vit, CC on bracer; Main Stat, 3 Sockets, Vit, AR on Chest (or the usual Cindercoat), Trifecta on gloves, amulets and rings... etc. etc.

Surely, the worst offender is the weapon, if there is a chance for socket, you can work something with, otherwise it's a soul. I don't understand why the damage range counts as a primary stat since it should be baseline. This removes a stat roll from the 4 possible primary stats we can have on a slot, then we have Main Stat, % damage and a socket.... this reminds me of how Vanilla weapons had to roll to be worthwhile.... not a huge step foward in term of gearing choices in my opinion....

You should never advertise an exploit, clever use of game mechanics or a bug! You do more harm than good to the game and give the Support Team, or whoever has to take action on the violating accounts, a headache.

CheehC nailed it. If you contact the company direclty via e-mail, they will look into the issue and hopefully a smaller amount of players abused this bug.

Now, with streamers showing this, which i think Diablo 3 has the worst kind, inclined to bug abuse or any kind of work around game mechanics, this "totally legit" experience farm is mainstream.... And i can't believe i see often Youtubers doing the same. They find a game breaking bug and post it on the internet to "show it to devs so they can fix it". More like "show it to everyone so we can troll the game". If those people really cared about the integrity of the game, they would make a private video and send the link to the Dev Team privately instead of this.

I hope Blizzard takes action, because anyone "playing" this way isn't even gaining experience while.... actually playing the game and they know it. I don't think bans will be used.... but maybe Paragon reset will be a fair punishment.

Sigh.... i miss the late days of Diablo 3 Vanilla with almost no post about this matter. Now these threads "I played for X hours and i got nothing" are growing like mushrooms. Bad luck streaks happens, and even if you got something in that time, maybe that item wasn't of your liking or an upgrade... the next complain will be "I'm not getting upgrades after playing for Y hours?".

Try playing any other ARPGs and you won't get usefull items either in that time you played if the rng is against you, just deal with it. Meaningfull rewards aren't guaranteed ever in this genre, you just have to play the game and sooner or later you will get something.

Being prepared for shipment means they are packaging it, so no, it's not on a truck. When it's being shipped, so in the hand of the delivery service, the product will be labed as "shipped". I know i broke your hopes, but it's better to not hold any illusions in this case.... because i'm in the same boat as you.

This post from Travis Day explains the drop rates quite a bit: http://www.diablofans.com/news/47917-travis-day-on-legendary-drop-rates

The paragraph you are looking for is this:

When i read your point on Rares i understood you can't move away from the old itemization where you could have all desiderable stats in one slot.

That's the whole point of Loot 2.0, not being able to have all desiderable offensive and defesinve stats on a single piece of equipment (gloves, jewelels and bracers are huge offenders of this in previous expansion). You need to choose what you want from you gear, expecially now that there are more competitive affixes like Elemental Damage (that's the bonus that makes me change my build so often), Cooldown Reduction and Resource Cost Reduction. These stats all share the same category of Main Stats, Ias, CC, CHD, AR and you can have at max 4 primary stats on a single slot. That's what i like.

I have no idea what some players are looking for. We have Legendaries that change how some skills work, we have more stats to choose... I think i've changed build at least 3-4 times because i've found a new item and i want to experiment a bit. I'm using that terrible quiver i dropped (showed on http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/81021-show-off-your-loot-2-0-legendaries?comment=4 ) because i got a pair of bracers with Fire Damage and crit and i wanted to see how instand Imminent Doom Bolas work with some other fire spell (Spike Trap with Sticky Bomb rune).

Meh..... i ate the bait i think...

That great feeling when you drop an item and every stat is green.

And of course before going to sleep yesterday (or rather this morning.... damn you Diablo, you became an addicting game again) i got this:





Op ring is op. <.<'

Read this nifty thread. It should clear up the mystery of why 2h are rolling so badly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/20a1n1/the_reason_why_all_2handers_roll_bad_dps/

^^What SinnerBenkei said basically.

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I wish the diablo playerbase learned the difference between the concepts of "useless" and "not being the absolute best in every situation".

Specially some of the higher end players, who don't realize that kind of toxic attitude and statment is responsible for misleading most of the less fortunate playerbase into hating the game without even knowing why (or without even having reason to do so, because they never reach that point in the game about which they hear so much crap).

It's really a shame =/

The former gets views, clicks, subs, etc., and it also gets the few thousand idiots who follow you on a routine basis whipped up in a frenzy, just waiting rabidly for your next scathing critique.

"I'm having so much fun with <game>" only goes so far. PoE did wonders for Kripp for a while, but the reality is that if you're going to make money being a professional gamer you really need a competitive game. It's boring to watch some guy who has 20x the time to play games that you do crushing content that isn't even remotely challenging due to his massive time investment. It's neat to see a video of Mannercookie getting 4 billion XP/hr in his CotA group, but that's a pretty small time investment. But, realistically, very few people actually want to watch that kind of gameplay for extended periods of time.

So, among the professional gamers, there has to constantly be some new thing. Without that new expansion, new game, or whatever you have no revenue stream. To that extent the "OMG GAME SO BAD BLIZZ NUBS I COULD MAKE A BETTER GAME WIT MY ASS THAN JAY WILZON COULD MAKE EVAR" hyperbole is nothing more than a marketing ploy to get people to click on their videos and watch their streams. It's no different than the local news stations hyping up the weather to get people to tune in at 10 PM.

The way to get people to check out the new thing? Talk shit about the old thing. Peer pressure at its finest. You don't want to be the last kid on the block to own a Chinpokomon, right?

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And you cant claim that the Iskatu fix was super easy to pin down in 1 hour for the new guy while the 2 handed weapon bug could easily take 10 hours.

But I can because I have working knowledge of how databases and code work. There are only a handful of ways for them to (reasonably) assign XP to monsters:

A table - either a separate table or a field in the monsters table
A default value + exclusion list - all monsters either use the default value or some override, which is contained in a separate table

To change a monster's XP value in either of these scenarios would take a newbie at Blizzard no more than 5 minutes. Period. It would take even less time if they have a GUI "editor" to use where they just load up the shadow vermin for Iskatu and edit the "experience" field and let the program handle any database updates that are necessary.

To fix two-handers, though, they have to take all the existing data and figure out WHAT is causing the bug. That is a very vague thing, as anyone who has worked with code knows. Something like that could take an hour. It could take three days. And we're only talking about finding the SOURCE of the problem, not implementing the actual fix.

Then there is testing. It's very quick and easy to run Iskatu 20 times and see that the spawn aren't granting XP. It's much more time-consuming to get the game to drop 200 2h weapons to make sure that the whole of the bug has been rooted out and everything is rolling properly. Because, God forbid they only fixed 90% of the bug, they'd have people like you up their asses again telling them how "fail" they are because they can't properly fix something the first time.

Anyone with a basic understanding of modern computer systems would comprehend why the Iskatu fix was so fast but why the 2h weapon fix is slower. If you don't have that requisite knowledge, you shouldn't be critiquing, because frankly it's ignorant. Even without that knowledge, continuing to beat down that door is not only pedantic but childish.

If the order in which they fix things is up on your list of "things Blizzard does wrong" then it's clear that they're not doing that much wrong because that's arguably one of the most minor gripes that I've never heard about any game in the history of games. OH GOD BLIZZARD IS PATCHING THINGS IN THE WRONG ORDER.... LET'S ALL SIT AROUND AND WATCH SAD MOVIES AND CRY ABOUT OUR EX-BOYFRIENDS! Do you realize how juvenile that sounds? You come off as such an entitled 15-year-old girl who thinks the entire world revolves around their personal wants and desires and that there aren't, literally, billions of other people out there and that not everything goes their way every time.

They don't want major XP exploits in the game. They've prioritized that higher than you think it should be prioritized. Deal with it. No amount of whining on the forums is ever going to change that because almost every company is going to prioritize fixing potentially-exploitable things over minor inconveniences. If 2hers are "broken" for the month leading to RoS, does it really impact your enjoyment of the game? If you answer "yes" to that then you really need to take a step back and a couple deep breaths because you're wound way too tight.

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And on top of ALL of that, there's the fact that they couldn't fix itemization without some kind of "reset." They were wise to realize this (the current game is a good example - it's very difficult to replace top-end weapons, gloves, amulets, belts, and pants at level 60) and tie the big itemization fix to the expansion that increases the level cap instead of rushing things in and then realizing that anyone who had acquired OP gear before the patch was going to use it over all the revamped items until they raised the level cap.

That alone pokes holes in the idea that they could have or should have fixed this "sooner."

The info from this post is now in the OP.

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The build looks cool I'd like to try it on my HC DH.

I have one question hope you can help clarifying,is Grenadier affect RF Bombardment? I always thoughtit only affect the "Grenade" skill..

What does it affect? Can you provide a list so I can explorer more possibility.

Thanks.

Grenadier does indeed improve Rapid Fire Bombardment. It will improve any skill that describes the damage as a grenade in the tooltip, much in the same way Ballistics will improve any skill that uses Rockets.

In fact, Rapid Fire (Fire Support) with the Ballistics passive is also very viable but works best on single targets (Bosses / Ubers).

I'll try to post a complete list when I get home a little later today.

Thanks for all of the feedback!

I can confirm "grenadier" passive does now improve RF bombardment. I just tested myself using a lvl 3 crossbow on one of the barfing slime walls in the cave of the betrayer.

The radius of grenades and the damage were increased as listed in the passive with RF - bombardment.

I also tested this with strafe - demolition, and although i could not verify the radius boost (since they automatically shot directly at the slime wall), I can verify the 10% damage boost works for that too.

And i also checked with cluster arrow. It does not affect the initial "cluster arrow" but the grenades that blow up afterward are boosted by the passive.

So yay for this passive actually being useful now!

For reference here are two screenshots of RF - Bombardment to show off the radius boost: First photo is WITHOUT grenadier passive, Second photo is WITH grenadier passive. Both were taken standing in the same spot and aiming at the same area. As you can see no numbers on the first, but numbers on second... Cool.

Quote from Twoflower » IMO the main problem in the diablo series ( and most other arpg ) is that you have no real endgame.

This argument has always made me want to get violent.

If you want raiding, or super-competitive high-end PvP then you're in the WRONG FUCKING GENRE and that's not a flaw of the genre. ARPGs are supposed to be simple games where you gain pleasure from smashing a skeleton with a huge mace and seeing loot pop out. It's, literally, supposed to be a simplified RPG with a focus on combat (the ACTION in Action RPG) and less focus on stats and pre-fight preparations.

Diablo doesn't need "endgame." It needs a good, fun, item hunt. And while I still loathe BoA and I think Smart Drops are too often, there's absolutely no denying that Loot 2.x is far better than Loot 1.x for the following reasons:

1) No more items with multiple primary stats. Remember that Skorn you got that had str, dex, and int on it and, which was basically ruined as a result? That doesn't happen anymore, and that alone has *severely* reduced the chance you're getting something that is pointless/useless.

2) No more class-specific items with the wrong primary stat. Again, this goes a long way to eliminating items that were just outright bad. No one really wanted a Dead Man's Legacy with strength on it. Now that's an impossibility and helps you know that any item has a worthwhile chance of being useful by reducing the chance that it will be decidedly *not* useful.

3) No pointless stat combinations (int plus Bash damage, etc.). Again, they're reducing the volume of outright terrible items that drop. No more WD skills paired with strength or dex. 1, 2, and 3 combined have a SIGNIFICANT impact on what is dropping. You rarely find something and think "this is total garbage" - although that does still happen with weapons, gloves, and jewelry because of the 1.x rolling rules making most of them superior to their level 60 2.x counterparts. This won't remain true at 70, though, so it's just a temporary issue.

4) Split stats are completely gone which drastically reduces the number of shitty properties that can appear on an item. There were six split stats (int-str, int-dex, int-vit, str-dex, str-vit, dex-vit) of which only ONE was actually useful for your character (proper primary + vit). That means every character now has five less bad potential properties to appear on an item. Massive change.

4) Tightened up stat ranges. When you ctrl-click a link, or ctrl-mouseover an item and you see the ranges you realize that most of them are roughly 50% smaller than they were in 1.x. This makes it such that you're not finding level 60 items with 25 resist all on them. It helps keep all the drops at least semi-relevant to the level on which they're being found.

5) Primary/Secondary split. This is more controversial, but disallowing items to roll EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE OFFENSIVE PROPERTY means that, as players, we do actually have to choose. It also increases the relevance of the Mystic in RoS. Now, instead of having to find a quintfecta item, you have to find an item with three correct primary stats and two acceptable secondary stats, then simply enchant it until you have the fourth primary stat you desire. Items should have rolled like this from the get-go. It never, ever, should have been possible to just stack primary + crit chance + crit damage + IAS on every slot they could roll on, and then get your EHP elsewhere. That was fundamentally-shortsighted and I'm glad it's (mostly) gone.

Is Loot 2.x perfect? Fuck no. But nothing, ever, is perfect. I've played a lot of games in my lifetime and I've never, ever, played a perfect game. Flaws exist and we, as human beings, have to acknowledge that and deal with it.

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Add in the "toughness" statistic and, for the average player, you now have a very handy way to determine if more HPs or more mitigation does more for your survivability. If you have payed attention to the toughness stat, at all, you're quickly realizing that you do not need res all or armor on every piece. In fact, I found an Eternal Union ring yesterday with the following stats:

255 intelligence
300 vitality
+20% life
853 life/sec
83 poison resistance
2003 life on kill

Notice it has no resist all or armor, but with my current gear setup it gives me 251,800 toughness (and 1194 healing) which is roughly 200k (and 1194) more than my previous ring while still being a minor offensive upgrade (I never was able to find very good rings pre-2.x). It does not have a massive amount of offense (255 int is kinda MEH for a ring slot) but the fact of the matter is that it has so much EHP and healing that it allows me to sacrifice EHP in other slots quite easily. And now I'm making CHOICES, which is good.

Found an awesome item that with a nice re-roll of stats from the lovely Mystic was going to be perfect! Before I got down to clicking and hoping for RNJesus to bless me, I ran upstairs to refill my coffee. When I got back to my chair, my wife was sitting in my seat, clicking the enchant button and enchanting a white item to have +5 to white.

I started screaming at her. "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! YOU'RE WASTING MY MATS, WOMAN!"

and then I woke up, to my wife standing over the bed staring at me with astonishment (the smells of freshly brewed coffee on the air) while I thrashed and muttered...."wasting my mats!"

She started at me for a long moment, sighed and walked out of the room.

And the funny part is: I'm not even in the Beta.