Fact is deleting posts in threads is stupid. It serves little to no purpose except to hide things that don't deserve to be hidden. Infractions are there for a reason. When someone decides to be abusive, derails a topic intentionally, and just all out disrupts a thread or conversation you should be infracting them; not deleting posts unless there is a seriously valid reason to do so.
Once you infract someone for a certain post you should then be editing the post to add that the person was infracted and why so people know that this is a no no. Deleting the post instead does nothing to educate the other posters here. That's one of the biggest issues with the moderation here, you don't educate the posters and you expect them all to read your rules and guidelines (as if anyone ever does). Anyone who has served as a forum moderator should know this. It is moderation 101.
As to you saying "Just because someone posted against D3". Do I expect moderation on all anti-D3 posts? Of course not. But do I expect moderation on the anti-D3 posts that are nothing but inflammatory bullshit? Yes. Lets take Bilge for example. Go into his past posts and read some of his conspiracy theory crap from several weeks ago. I am pretty sure you as a moderators can go back farther than I can. That is the kind of garbage that needs infractions galore. Uneducated drivel by people who lack the intelligence to understand how and why companies make certain business decisions serves no purpose other than to incite other people who do not understand. All that does is make other people think "OMG EVIL EMPIRE OMG OMG" and you get multiple people spreading that garbage like the plague.
And OMG, multiple threads galore on these forums. Seriously. How many topics about MF does one forum need? Reply to them, state they are repeat topics, link to the original topic, lock. GG.
Because the thread is being derailed by someone pointing out his derailing. His post wasn't simply derailing, it was abrasive yes but there is a more important topic underneathe and when I go through sweeping up all the posts it would be removing a lot of him and proletaria talking and I don't like leaving gaps in threads like that or removing the last several posts letting a important thread sink to the bottom.
The arguing also ended there on its own, sometimes that's best as long as it isn't being perpetuated by outside comments or it goes too far as to be personal.
Don't derail by pointing out someone else is derailing.
So I don't know if anyone noticed or not but I wrote up a new section in the rules that should hopefully help in normal discussion (this whole Jay Wilson thing though is explosive and there's no real putting it out at the moment.)
This has actually been in place for a month or so now, just making it a little more transparent:
Warnings and Infractions
In general most offenses will either issue a one point infraction, though not limited to, or a warning which doesn't add to your infraction bar, it merely serves as a notification to you that it's not okay to continue the action and it is kept logged for staff to view when dealing with you in the future.
Automatic actions will be taken at certain amounts of infraction points:
Four points is a three day suspension.
Six points is a week suspension.
Eight points is a two week suspension.
Ten points is a permanent ban.
And this is more specific to what we've discussed in this thread.
Off-topic/Derailing/Hijacking
Sometimes discussion steers threads into a different direction than the original post. That is fine. What is not fine is purposely entering a thread and steering it in a different direction to derail it. If you enter a thread about how great kittens are and start telling everyone kittens are terrible and puppies are better, that is derailing. On the same line of thinking though, if you enter a thread about how bad a puppy is and you wish it would stop making messes in the floor and someone comes in and says puppies are fine you're a moron, that's also not okay.
Remember to not take part and report it instead, it will keep you out of trouble.
So you admit he is derailing then accusing me of derailing while taking no action against him for derailing while you delete my post. GG.
This is what the entire thread is about. You guys don't DO anything about this stuff. Why send in a report ticket when it never goes anywhere? In this case I would rather point it out since I see you posting here a lot. That way other people get to see you not take action. Bilge has been posting his hatred for D3 on these forums since I started posting here yet I haven't seen you do much of anything about it, and he isn't the only one.
Why abide by the rules, why be civil, why care about hurting others feelings, why worry about posting constructively when there are no repercussions? By Bilge's post he obviously doesn't care. Every reply from him has been a derail and abusiveness, yet nothing is done about it and you tell me I am derailing by pointing it out. I am not at all derailing, I am pointing out that while we are talking about ways to make this forum better you have people derailing it and being abusive while you are talking about being more severe against people derailing and being abusive. If you think I am really derailing this thread I welcome you to permanently ban me. Honestly, if you think I am derailing then I don't want to be a part of this community and would welcome the ban because that would mean you really have no clue how to moderate a forum.
What is easy; however, is to over-generalize and derail an otherwise fruitful discussion.
You seem to be the expert. After all, without your acidic and unnecessary replies my post would have probably gone unnoticed. So thanks for helping me to highlight the issues with this game and with the marginalization of those not on the Blizzard Bandwagon. It's the first nice thing you've done for me, and I appreciate it
Look another snarky post to derail this thread. But look, nothing is done about it. No infraction, no ban, no deletion, nothing. Yet my post got deleted for pointing this out once already.
With the reveal of the paragon system they created a cap of 300% MF. Which is obtainable at level 100 paragon. So Magic find on gear I now believe is just a worthless stat. I imagine it will take about 30-45 hours TOPS to get to level 100 Paragon. Which is obtainable easily in less than a week. Unless someone has some other information, I believe it will be the end of magic find.
Thoughts?
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Did you even read the article or did you just skim it. You may have no life to the point of hitting paragon level 100 in a ridiculously quick amount of time, others do not. The simple fact that paragon level one will take as long as lvl 59-60 took means its a good 3 hours of grinding on that one alone. Unless of course you find some exp loop hole and repeat the quest endlessly. Even so you would still be looking at an hour easy. And that is the quickest level. 35-40 hours? I seriously doubt it. I don't think that will even see you yo paragon level 20 even if you cheat.
But w/e, lets just throw up another DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM thread of a forum that's already filled with them instead of taking a few extra seconds to read the article properly and then, OMG, THINK about what was said.
Censorship is never the answer. People who think it is are hilariously stupid at best, and extremely dangerous at worst.
Whenever you try to suppress natural human tendencies, it simply ends up building up and then exploding, making a bad situation worse. Hasn't the fact that priests can't stop raping young boys taught you people anything?
If you can't deal with what somebody is saying, it says more about you than about them. Wake up. Just look at all the religious fanatics around the world who murder people for saying things they deem heretical...
Some countries which employ heavy censorship include Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, North Korea and China... Notice any trends among those nations?
This is a post that obviously deserves an infraction, yet it won't get one.
If people have a problem with the game why post it on these boards at all? What is that going to do for anyone besides making them feel better because they got to vent their frustrations? If they have a problem post it on the official boards, not on unofficial boards that Blizzard may skim once a month if that.
You talk about the QQ about QQers being rude and stupid, how smart are they to whine and bitch on an unofficial forum while giving no credible feedback at all? Their opinion isn't going to get to the people that actually matter, so what is the point? That's like yelling out their window that they don't like the food from a restaurant 10 miles away. Guess what? THEY WON'T HEAR YOU!
To be clear, yes there are many trolls here as of late and in no way am I defending the inane threads they start. However, why post here if someone dislikes something about a game they have some investment in? Possibly to try and collaborate on potential solutions to present to the developer? In no way is a posted concern with no supplied constructive criticism a way of venting frustrations, more a way of trying to collectively brainstorm. For the most part posting a concern is a fruitless endeavor here or on the official forms as they have both degraded into a constant flame war that you seem to be trying to perpetuate. Proletaria is correct that the situation is slightly out of hand right now but to say that voicing a concern here is akin to your shouting out a window scenario is as myopic as the trolls you decry
So making a QQ post about the game here is a way to gather ideas to present to the developer, then you say posting that stuff here or their is pointless, then you say my comparison of shouting out the window is myopic? Really?
Do you really think any of these QQ posts that DO get a decent discussion going gets related back to Blizzard? Sure, Maybe if a Blizzard employee happens to see the thread here on these boards. But saying that posting that stuff on their forums is as pointless as posting it here is a complete fallacy. At least the Blizzard forums are moderated in an attempt to keep things civil, the exact opposite of what happens on these boards.
So.. you are complaining about other ppl complaining.
There are an incredible number of fallacies going around by some posters, my favorite is: "why are you complaining about Diablo in a site that is called Diablo FANS!!11!!!. /facepalm.
The game could be called DiabloSUCKS and if the game was excelent (or at least without major flaws) I would be posting my opinion about how I like some mechanig, or what detail could be improved, etc.
Other critical misstake I see sometimes, is that ppl think that if I dont suggest a solution to the problem, I dont have the rigt to even speak about the problem... let me ask you, since when?.
I can speak about something I think its flawed, or it can be improved somehow, and dont have a fucking idea about how to fix it. Seriously, cut the crap.
I really like D3, I played like 250+ hours, but I think it has major flaws within the very core of the game. Every friend/mate I have that was playing this game, stopped playing it, at all, some weeks ago. And Im not talking about 2 or 3, im talking about 30+ players.
Its amazing how the QQ about the QQ'ers, is more rude and stupid than the actual QQ about the game.
If people have a problem with the game why post it on these boards at all? What is that going to do for anyone besides making them feel better because they got to vent their frustrations? If they have a problem post it on the official boards, not on unofficial boards that Blizzard may skim once a month if that.
You talk about the QQ about QQers being rude and stupid, how smart are they to whine and bitch on an unofficial forum while giving no credible feedback at all? Their opinion isn't going to get to the people that actually matter, so what is the point? That's like yelling out their window that they don't like the food from a restaurant 10 miles away. Guess what? THEY WON'T HEAR YOU!
As to your opinion about the Diablofans comment, if they can articulate their problem intelligently without raging like a 2 year old and give a suggestion on fixing the problem then fine. They can post all they want even though it won't matter at all. But when they act like a child "THIS GAME IS TERRIBLE" then at that point they're acting like a baby and should be treated as such.
It's no secret the posting quality around here has plummeted to an all-time low. Even with the oncoming patch, which some detractors have grudgingly accepted as positive, there are a small but persistent group of antagonistic persons who are flooding our boards with the same tired message.
We have all replied to their posts or one of their off-topic rants within another, often promising, thread. We have all seen the cancerous ruin spread from Diablo III General Discussion to every other sub-forum. We have all nearly exhausted our repetitious words attempting to calm the rabid haters, make them see reason, or simply stop posting on a forum dedicated to a game they passionately hate.
So what do you personally think about the current forum environment? Take the poll and feel free to leave a comment detailing your opinions on the matter.
I voted that they are not constructive. WTB some moderators who actually give a damn about these forums to start doing their jobs IMO.
Diablo 3 is a TERRIBLE GAME! Everyone should know this by now. I don't understand how people can flame people who make threads about WHY the game is that bad and what has to change.
YOU don't like the game so it is terrible? Seriously child, grow up and show some maturity. Just because you think something doesn't make it a fact, it makes it an opinion. Plus, this site is diablofans.com, not cryaboutdiablo3likealittlebitch.com, if you have a problem with the game take it to the official forums, or did you get banned off them like you should be banned here?
The thing is, you could always have a goal in D2. Like, get more MF for my MF sorc, or more DPS gear for my PVPbowzon, or increase that DPS on my Javazon so she could grind all the way to 99.
In D3, I got the MF cap, I got 90k dps with 800 AR. Thanks to AH, I got all the gear I needed in 3 months, instead of a year.
Err what now? Just farm gold to what? Farm gold? My gold is pushing 300 mil, and there's nothing to buy, why would I spent 200million on +10 int to a slot. I could buy more gear for my Barb, but what for? To do the same thing my wiz does, farm act3? Why?
And like the guy above said all the cool little things that kept farming from becoming a snorefest, like loot-pinata bosses, and horadic cube gambling, and leveling up all the way to 99.
If you are sitting on 300million gold (bullshit) then why not hook paypal to your Battle.net account and sell it on RMAH and make some $$ off a video game? I have sold nearly 100mil gold on RMAH so far, I love making money playing a video game.
Why is ppl comparing D3 with D2 and at the result of that comparison make conclusions?, its absurd.
I never played D2 online, I only played singleplayer, why?, dont know, in that kind of games I like to play alone, and I had LOTS of fun, I even could make some nice runewords on my javazon (after a long time of playing, of course).
I really do want to play D3, Im actually going to play it once 1.04 is alive, there are a lots of new stuff im interested in testing out, but I think, that after some days or weeks, Ill stop playing it. That didnt hapen in D2, why?, is what Im trying to understand.
Absurd? The endgame of both games is the exact same -pvp. You farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger.
What is so absurb about this comparison? You think D2 had more of this than D3? Are you going to claim the differences is runes? Because that would be absurd since runes and charms only appeared post expansion, as they likely will with D3. Rose tinted nostalgia glasses FTL IMO.
Hey look, more QQ! Sad thing is that I can say with near 100% certainty that the writer of that article and everyone who is whining in this thread have no real intentions to stop playing D3.
Why is D3 broken? Its not, end of story. People keep crying about farming items and not dropping their own loot. People keep crying about the AH. People keep crying because they suck and can't progress. Too bad. You had to farm loot in D2 to trade to get stuff you needed. D2 didn't have Inferno difficulty, hell D2 barely had a hell difficulty. If not for the AH people would be whining like bitches because they would have to stalk trade channels for hours on end to trade for gear.
NOTHING Blizzard will do with this game will make the vocal minority happy until they make the game faceroll like D1 and D2 and increase drop rates to the point of the AH and trading being useless. Too many people are spoiled rotten little brats and don't feel the need to be a good player or to put an effort into progression and becoming a better player. That's what the issue is. If there is something about D3 that is broken it is the shitty attitude this community of players has, not the game.
It's modern warfare. Think about it. Would you rather:
A: See a known terrorist walking down the street, identify him and cut him down where he stands.....OR...
B: Track said terrorist for a few months, find all the safe houses and terrorist cells he is associating with, and lead a calculated air strike, temporarily crippling a terrorist network until the next one arises?
I understand your point, but in this case, the 'terrorists' are comitting terrorist acts while they are being whatched (i.e., Blizz might be watching the botters, but they're still doing their botting and fucking up the economy).
And you don't think that is how it works IRL with actual terrorists? You're cute.
Thanks. My GF thinks so, too.
However, this is not about what happens, but what should happen. Maybe if your family gets blown up and you find out the police were following the guy who did it but didn't stop him, you'll change your views. Maybe you can be cute too.
Would I as a victim be angry? Of course, what moron wouldn't. But would I find my personal loss to be easier to deal with when I find out as a result they captured several major terrorist cells? Of course I would because then thousands of other people will be allowed to live.
You talk as if you understand what the real issues are yet you don't. If Blizzard were retarded and did weekly bans the people using bot programs and scripts would only update them faster thus making them harder to track thus making the problem harder to deal with. This is common sense, not something you have apparently. By waiting and rounding up thousands upon thousands of names they will effectively neuter the organizations using these bots and scripts while taking millions upon millions of gold out of the system. Quite a brutal hit to the pockets of these scumbags.
Do I agree with these assholes using scripts and bots? No. Do I agree with how Blizzard handles them? Hell yeah. Do I wish Blizzard could or would do it faster than they do? Of course. But I am not going to get on an unofficial forum and cry and whine like a baby over it. Anyways, what kind of melodramatic moron compares gold botters in a videogame to terrorists in real life? Little out of whack with reality eh?
lol seriously though, I agree with Maka. The big difference between the two examples is following the botter won't lead to any big breakthrough. Blizzard can see them all (at least the obvious ones) and stopping them right when they find out is the best option. Now of course there is litigation to go through to ban someones account, especially when it's tied to moving around real money.
Spoken like someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
Blizzard won't ban anyone without proof of having actually cheated, and logging a ton of hours in a game is not proof of hacking. They track the programs being used to interface with the game. even scripts are traceable. They need to figure out how to trace them, then they go along and write up a program to run through their server to track all the scumbags. Yeah, they could ban them one by one and then the writers of the bots and scripts and such find out and start updating right away so then bliz has to like automatically start trying to detect a new program version. Instead they take several month rounding up all the people using the shit and ban them all at once annihilating their accounts and attached accounts. When they do that they are taking billions of gold out of the system as well because lets be honest, these accounts are going to have tons of gold.
Doing it your way is stupid and just makes them have to do infinitely more work, almost an impossible amount regardless of their resources. Doing it there way is what works, and is what most other game companies do as well. You allow the "bot" to spread to more and more people. The longer they don't ban the users the more scum they will eventually get to ban the more illegal gold they will be taking out of the system. I don;t see what is so hard to understand about this.
Since MF wont average in groups anymore, i have a feeling alot of people will go high mf and join random groups (since it will be lol easy with the hp nerf), so should be worth more after patch.
Well since they are increases the stat values in ilvl 61 and 62 as well as increasing the %chance to drop magic and rare items on non elite mobs (by a factor of 4) I would say MF is going to be more valuable than it is right now. MF is still going to increase the chances to get these items so why not quadruple the benefit on non elite packs and get more more valuable rares off elite packs?
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Once you infract someone for a certain post you should then be editing the post to add that the person was infracted and why so people know that this is a no no. Deleting the post instead does nothing to educate the other posters here. That's one of the biggest issues with the moderation here, you don't educate the posters and you expect them all to read your rules and guidelines (as if anyone ever does). Anyone who has served as a forum moderator should know this. It is moderation 101.
As to you saying "Just because someone posted against D3". Do I expect moderation on all anti-D3 posts? Of course not. But do I expect moderation on the anti-D3 posts that are nothing but inflammatory bullshit? Yes. Lets take Bilge for example. Go into his past posts and read some of his conspiracy theory crap from several weeks ago. I am pretty sure you as a moderators can go back farther than I can. That is the kind of garbage that needs infractions galore. Uneducated drivel by people who lack the intelligence to understand how and why companies make certain business decisions serves no purpose other than to incite other people who do not understand. All that does is make other people think "OMG EVIL EMPIRE OMG OMG" and you get multiple people spreading that garbage like the plague.
And OMG, multiple threads galore on these forums. Seriously. How many topics about MF does one forum need? Reply to them, state they are repeat topics, link to the original topic, lock. GG.
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So you admit he is derailing then accusing me of derailing while taking no action against him for derailing while you delete my post. GG.
This is what the entire thread is about. You guys don't DO anything about this stuff. Why send in a report ticket when it never goes anywhere? In this case I would rather point it out since I see you posting here a lot. That way other people get to see you not take action. Bilge has been posting his hatred for D3 on these forums since I started posting here yet I haven't seen you do much of anything about it, and he isn't the only one.
Why abide by the rules, why be civil, why care about hurting others feelings, why worry about posting constructively when there are no repercussions? By Bilge's post he obviously doesn't care. Every reply from him has been a derail and abusiveness, yet nothing is done about it and you tell me I am derailing by pointing it out. I am not at all derailing, I am pointing out that while we are talking about ways to make this forum better you have people derailing it and being abusive while you are talking about being more severe against people derailing and being abusive. If you think I am really derailing this thread I welcome you to permanently ban me. Honestly, if you think I am derailing then I don't want to be a part of this community and would welcome the ban because that would mean you really have no clue how to moderate a forum.
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Look another snarky post to derail this thread. But look, nothing is done about it. No infraction, no ban, no deletion, nothing. Yet my post got deleted for pointing this out once already.
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Did you even read the article or did you just skim it. You may have no life to the point of hitting paragon level 100 in a ridiculously quick amount of time, others do not. The simple fact that paragon level one will take as long as lvl 59-60 took means its a good 3 hours of grinding on that one alone. Unless of course you find some exp loop hole and repeat the quest endlessly. Even so you would still be looking at an hour easy. And that is the quickest level. 35-40 hours? I seriously doubt it. I don't think that will even see you yo paragon level 20 even if you cheat.
But w/e, lets just throw up another DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM thread of a forum that's already filled with them instead of taking a few extra seconds to read the article properly and then, OMG, THINK about what was said.
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This is a post that obviously deserves an infraction, yet it won't get one.
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So making a QQ post about the game here is a way to gather ideas to present to the developer, then you say posting that stuff here or their is pointless, then you say my comparison of shouting out the window is myopic? Really?
Do you really think any of these QQ posts that DO get a decent discussion going gets related back to Blizzard? Sure, Maybe if a Blizzard employee happens to see the thread here on these boards. But saying that posting that stuff on their forums is as pointless as posting it here is a complete fallacy. At least the Blizzard forums are moderated in an attempt to keep things civil, the exact opposite of what happens on these boards.
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If people have a problem with the game why post it on these boards at all? What is that going to do for anyone besides making them feel better because they got to vent their frustrations? If they have a problem post it on the official boards, not on unofficial boards that Blizzard may skim once a month if that.
You talk about the QQ about QQers being rude and stupid, how smart are they to whine and bitch on an unofficial forum while giving no credible feedback at all? Their opinion isn't going to get to the people that actually matter, so what is the point? That's like yelling out their window that they don't like the food from a restaurant 10 miles away. Guess what? THEY WON'T HEAR YOU!
As to your opinion about the Diablofans comment, if they can articulate their problem intelligently without raging like a 2 year old and give a suggestion on fixing the problem then fine. They can post all they want even though it won't matter at all. But when they act like a child "THIS GAME IS TERRIBLE" then at that point they're acting like a baby and should be treated as such.
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I voted that they are not constructive. WTB some moderators who actually give a damn about these forums to start doing their jobs IMO.
YOU don't like the game so it is terrible? Seriously child, grow up and show some maturity. Just because you think something doesn't make it a fact, it makes it an opinion. Plus, this site is diablofans.com, not cryaboutdiablo3likealittlebitch.com, if you have a problem with the game take it to the official forums, or did you get banned off them like you should be banned here?
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If you are sitting on 300million gold (bullshit) then why not hook paypal to your Battle.net account and sell it on RMAH and make some $$ off a video game? I have sold nearly 100mil gold on RMAH so far, I love making money playing a video game.
Absurd? The endgame of both games is the exact same -pvp. You farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger.
What is so absurb about this comparison? You think D2 had more of this than D3? Are you going to claim the differences is runes? Because that would be absurd since runes and charms only appeared post expansion, as they likely will with D3. Rose tinted nostalgia glasses FTL IMO.
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I love you.
PS- Please have mah babies.
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Why is D3 broken? Its not, end of story. People keep crying about farming items and not dropping their own loot. People keep crying about the AH. People keep crying because they suck and can't progress. Too bad. You had to farm loot in D2 to trade to get stuff you needed. D2 didn't have Inferno difficulty, hell D2 barely had a hell difficulty. If not for the AH people would be whining like bitches because they would have to stalk trade channels for hours on end to trade for gear.
NOTHING Blizzard will do with this game will make the vocal minority happy until they make the game faceroll like D1 and D2 and increase drop rates to the point of the AH and trading being useless. Too many people are spoiled rotten little brats and don't feel the need to be a good player or to put an effort into progression and becoming a better player. That's what the issue is. If there is something about D3 that is broken it is the shitty attitude this community of players has, not the game.
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I have sold over 65 million gold on RMAH so whoever is saying that is retarded.
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Would I as a victim be angry? Of course, what moron wouldn't. But would I find my personal loss to be easier to deal with when I find out as a result they captured several major terrorist cells? Of course I would because then thousands of other people will be allowed to live.
You talk as if you understand what the real issues are yet you don't. If Blizzard were retarded and did weekly bans the people using bot programs and scripts would only update them faster thus making them harder to track thus making the problem harder to deal with. This is common sense, not something you have apparently. By waiting and rounding up thousands upon thousands of names they will effectively neuter the organizations using these bots and scripts while taking millions upon millions of gold out of the system. Quite a brutal hit to the pockets of these scumbags.
Do I agree with these assholes using scripts and bots? No. Do I agree with how Blizzard handles them? Hell yeah. Do I wish Blizzard could or would do it faster than they do? Of course. But I am not going to get on an unofficial forum and cry and whine like a baby over it. Anyways, what kind of melodramatic moron compares gold botters in a videogame to terrorists in real life? Little out of whack with reality eh?
Spoken like someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
Blizzard won't ban anyone without proof of having actually cheated, and logging a ton of hours in a game is not proof of hacking. They track the programs being used to interface with the game. even scripts are traceable. They need to figure out how to trace them, then they go along and write up a program to run through their server to track all the scumbags. Yeah, they could ban them one by one and then the writers of the bots and scripts and such find out and start updating right away so then bliz has to like automatically start trying to detect a new program version. Instead they take several month rounding up all the people using the shit and ban them all at once annihilating their accounts and attached accounts. When they do that they are taking billions of gold out of the system as well because lets be honest, these accounts are going to have tons of gold.
Doing it your way is stupid and just makes them have to do infinitely more work, almost an impossible amount regardless of their resources. Doing it there way is what works, and is what most other game companies do as well. You allow the "bot" to spread to more and more people. The longer they don't ban the users the more scum they will eventually get to ban the more illegal gold they will be taking out of the system. I don;t see what is so hard to understand about this.
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I totally didn't think about that. WIN!
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