I don't know. Anyway, I hope they can reverse this, and fix the game to be about fun, not the RMAH.
You lost all credibility when you said this. You proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant in one fell swoop.
If you really think this game is "about the RMAH" then you really really are pretty stupid. Diablo 1 and 2 both had HUGE markets on ebay. D3 would be no different, as such Blizzard nipped it in the bud by adding it right into the game in order to both protect the community and make a little money. If you are dumb enough to see that as a bad thing you probably also have to actively think about breathing to do so.
Seriously?
I played D2 for years, and never had the feeling I needed to buy ANYTHING on ebay.
Don't teenage rant me. I'm just expressing my feeling which is shared by many: without the AH, you can't play the game entirely basically because of the loot system.
Actually, even better, if you NEVER bought anything from the AH, I'll bow to you, if you have, think again.
Btw, ask your mom to teach you manners.
As I have stated in another post, in D2 you could clear the entirety of the game with the items you dropped for yourself because the entire game was stupidly easy. Anyone saying it wasn't either didn't play it or were just really really terrible at Diablo 2. Diablo 3 has stepped up the difficulty by leaps and bounds in comparison to D2. The closest thing in D3 you can compare to D2 hell is D3's nightmare difficulty and even then I think D2 was still easier. As to the loot system, it's the same system from D2 with the exception of legendary items having random properties.
And yes, I have both bought and sold on the AH, because I'm not a complete retard. I realize that it is a 100% viable way to get gear.
As to asking my mother about manners, I have plenty of manners, I am just sick of retards crying about needing to use the AH to get gear. The AH is as much a part of this game as anything else, get it through your thick skull and stop acting like a child about it.
i posted a very long rant about this topic yesterday, in both these forums and official forums, i doubt it got read, but basically i think that the stat budget in d3 is the crux of the whole system. Its not really about the drop rates, we are getting plenty of loot (after they fix the 1.03 "bug" this/next week anyways for act3/4 but thats besides the point)
I really think they need to take a LOT of the randomness out of the system, <stopped reading right there>
Welcome to Diablo. I see this is your first ever Diablo game you have played. This is not WoW where you go into kill a boss and you know exactly what he can possibly drop. This is a game about randomly generated loot. Your entire rant past what I read is completely pointless to read because you obviously have little to no clue what Diablo is all about. Diablo is not about hitting top level and farming the best loot as fast as possible. Diablo is more about farming and trading and buying and selling than any other game on the market. All the Diablo games have worked this way and they have a ridiculously huge cult following because of it.
If the randomness of the loot bothers you so much my advice to you is to quit.
He was talking about rares I think, which he is correct. It is not possible for +exp on kill to roll on an iLvl 61 or higher rare item.
Ah, I see. Kinda stupid that Legendaries can have a completely useless stat, while rares apparently can't.
Agreed, rares and legendaries roll differently int he system. Rare items, based on slots, can only roll certain abilities. Legendaries on the other hand have a complete separate list of things each individual one can roll on. I do think that amulets roll table is bugged though, if I got that I would send Bliz a bug report to notify them.
I don't know. Anyway, I hope they can reverse this, and fix the game to be about fun, not the RMAH.
You lost all credibility when you said this. You proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant in one fell swoop.
If you really think this game is "about the RMAH" then you really really are pretty stupid. Diablo 1 and 2 both had HUGE markets on ebay. D3 would be no different, as such Blizzard nipped it in the bud by adding it right into the game in order to both protect the community and make a little money. If you are dumb enough to see that as a bad thing you probably also have to actively think about breathing to do so.
Not sure if everyone agrees but when a so called ilvl 63 item has really bad stats, does it even deserve to be called a ilvl 63 item?
I know Blizzard buff the ilvl 63 drop rate, but what they didn't tell us is that "YES, we will buff ilvl63 item drop rate BUT THE STATS WILL BE SO BAD LOL IN YOUR FACE!, There you go, WE HAZ BUFF THE DROP RATE"
isn't ilvl63 > ilvl62 ?
What i'm really interested to know is what kind of % are we talking about to get a really decent stats gear (doesn't matter which class). RNG roll has a formula too.
Eg. if out of 1 million drop, 8% is the ilvl 63 item, and out of that 8% drop, only 1% (800) of it is "so so stats" (where you can just barely use), 0.1% (80) of it you can "actually use" or AH, and 0.01% (8)of it is uber stats.
Drop rate is meaningless in this game, and so does logic down the drain.
If i didn't explain myself clearly, please feel free to correct me
Drop rates don't matter? Didn't your false math completely disprove that?
Of course drop rates matter. The more drops (higher drop rate) the better chance of getting the good stats you want.
I am so tired of seeing these posts pop up, it's stupid. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize RNG is RANDOM and you can't control random. If you aren't getting drops to upgrade your own gear and you are surprised then you are obviously completely clueless as to the concept of random. While you probably aren't dropping things that are upgrades for you, you are definitely dropping items that are upgrades for other people. USE THE AH. USE THE TRADE CHAT. SELL THESE ITEMS. GET GOLD. BUY UPGRADES. If this is so hard for a concept for people then those people really need to quit.
I sell most everything I list on the AH because I know what I am listing are things people want. I know what other classes are looking for in their gear. I list at a bid with a buy out of double my bid price according to what other similar items are selling for on the AH. I dropped a nice Dez/Vit/%life belt earlier today, ilvl62. I looked it up on the AH and the closest thing I saw was bid/bo or 2mil. Mine was way better so I listed at 2mil bid, 4mil BO. It had a bunch of bids within an hour then someone bought it. Yesterday I sold a ring for 3.5mil. And I have made mroe than 100 bucks on RMAH in the past week. You can't sit there and tell me your not getting useful items.
Ohai...I really don't feel like starting a "Flaming" Topic...btw, if you do read what i'm saying "If i didn't explain clearly, please correct me"....What i'm trying to say is...for example, Price of an item (clothing/car etc etc) cost $100, but due to end of the year clearance, i might just mark up to $200, and give customer's a 50% discount, and this is what i see from this so called "Buff".
And btw, the loot i was getting in act 3/4 pre nerf was at least abit more consistant (stats), guess that ilvl thing gets my hope high...and i think it affects the "logic" in alot of ppl too.
The buff you claim that is leading to your so called gripe only increased the chances to drop higher ilvl loot. The buff did not affect the itemization of said drops. Your gripe is against the RNG and/or your own inability to see what items are good compared to bad. I have made more than 20 million gold in the past 7 days farming act 1, 2 times a day. If the items were as bad as your claiming them to be for everyone because of some changes they did with the buff then that would not be the case. Item stats are purely RNG and anyone with half a brain will tell you that RNG can sometimes really suck for a person repeatedly because... well... that R in RNG stand for.... guess what? RANDOM!!!!! OMG!!!!!
then my random i63 bracer drops are showing: +magic find, +experience gained from monsters, +health from globes, +chance to freeze and thats it.
You're lying. +experience is not a viable roll on items ilvl 61 or higher. If you are going to join in someone gripefest don't lie about it, just makes you look like a fool.
Sigh, dont embarras yourself with your hostile behaviour.
I dont really feel its necessary to defend myself, especially not to 12 year old nerd ragers like yourself, but im gonna stick by what i have written above.
Its just as possible as getting 2 exact same rare items with same stats and name in a row from 2 different mobs, which i also did on same run as the sucky bracers dropped.
Or, are you trying to tell me that glitches cant happen in the world of blizzard? Then im tempted to say that you are lying.
Good, don't defend yourself, you can't, you're lying. And don't call me a nerd rager as if that adds any validity to your lies, not a thing in my reply to you could possibly be taken as nerd raging. You're just upset that you were caught in a lie. As I stated, it just makes you look foolish, and coming back at me with insults makes it even more so.
then my random i63 bracer drops are showing: +magic find, +experience gained from monsters, +health from globes, +chance to freeze and thats it.
You're lying. +experience is not a viable roll on items ilvl 61 or higher. If you are going to join in someone gripefest don't lie about it, just makes you look like a fool.
Not sure if everyone agrees but when a so called ilvl 63 item has really bad stats, does it even deserve to be called a ilvl 63 item?
I know Blizzard buff the ilvl 63 drop rate, but what they didn't tell us is that "YES, we will buff ilvl63 item drop rate BUT THE STATS WILL BE SO BAD LOL IN YOUR FACE!, There you go, WE HAZ BUFF THE DROP RATE"
isn't ilvl63 > ilvl62 ?
What i'm really interested to know is what kind of % are we talking about to get a really decent stats gear (doesn't matter which class). RNG roll has a formula too.
Eg. if out of 1 million drop, 8% is the ilvl 63 item, and out of that 8% drop, only 1% (800) of it is "so so stats" (where you can just barely use), 0.1% (80) of it you can "actually use" or AH, and 0.01% (8)of it is uber stats.
Drop rate is meaningless in this game, and so does logic down the drain.
If i didn't explain myself clearly, please feel free to correct me
Drop rates don't matter? Didn't your false math completely disprove that?
Of course drop rates matter. The more drops (higher drop rate) the better chance of getting the good stats you want.
I am so tired of seeing these posts pop up, it's stupid. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize RNG is RANDOM and you can't control random. If you aren't getting drops to upgrade your own gear and you are surprised then you are obviously completely clueless as to the concept of random. While you probably aren't dropping things that are upgrades for you, you are definitely dropping items that are upgrades for other people. USE THE AH. USE THE TRADE CHAT. SELL THESE ITEMS. GET GOLD. BUY UPGRADES. If this is so hard for a concept for people then those people really need to quit.
I sell most everything I list on the AH because I know what I am listing are things people want. I know what other classes are looking for in their gear. I list at a bid with a buy out of double my bid price according to what other similar items are selling for on the AH. I dropped a nice Dez/Vit/%life belt earlier today, ilvl62. I looked it up on the AH and the closest thing I saw was bid/bo or 2mil. Mine was way better so I listed at 2mil bid, 4mil BO. It had a bunch of bids within an hour then someone bought it. Yesterday I sold a ring for 3.5mil. And I have made mroe than 100 bucks on RMAH in the past week. You can't sit there and tell me your not getting useful items.
People are not leaving the game because of attack speed or any damage nerfs, you got it a bit wrong.
People are leaving the game because of simple things they got bothered with :
1. Drop rate is ruined and game is completely broken now. Farming is completely useless now, unless you want to vendor everything you get.
2. People are annoyed with RMAH and AH. I personally don't have anything against those but it would be better without them probably.
3. There are so many broken classes, broken skills and so many bugs.
4. There is no end game for hard core players. This is not D2, this is not time of gaming from 1999. This is 2012 and people like challenges, end game content and rewarding system.
So once again, there are many issues with the game and damage is the last problem. I m personally still playing game even tho I cleaned entire content 3 weeks ago. Loot is currently broken as long as many other things. I m not a flamer, QQ'er or anything like that.
I m not fan of blizzard nor any other gaming company. I play games I like, I don't care who made them. Be realistic and don't look at the game subjectively.
I hope blizzard will fix this game soon cause game itself has a lot of potential to rock and roll.
Have fun
1: Wrong, I have no problems finding great items in act 1-2-3. In the past 5 days I have made more than 20million gold.
2: People who are annoyed with the AH's are simply ignorant. The AH takes the place of the massive trading you had to do in D2. RMAH takes the place of ebay because anyone with half a brain who played D2 knows people sold tons of stuff on ebay.
3: Broken classes? no. Broken skill? Not really. Bugs? Name one game in the world that has no bugs, I dare you.
4: The Diablo franchise has never been about endgame so complaining about no endgame simply shows your ignorance and stupidity. This is not WoW, this is not Rift, this is not SWTOR. This is an ARPG and nothing more.
1. Maybe, but I don't find a single item I can use in a couple days killing stuff in Act 1.
2. I never traded in D2 but could clear the game by myself, with the gear I found.
3. Agree there, don't think it is that bad. Apart from the silly bear-bug.
4. Think what D2 did right and D3 doesn't is that there is a good chance you can get the rarest and best items yourself (if doing boss runs is fun is a whole different discussion).
Anyway, for me the Blizzard games of the past were all excellent, superb games (D1, D2, Starcraft, warcraft RTS franchise and wow and TBC), but since a few years they just seem to settle for good games.
1: At some point you will stop finding items for yourself. This is Diablo, this game is about farming and trading. Trading now means making use of the AH. You sell items that are good for other classes to buy items that are good for you. You WILL NOT drop upgrades for yourself in any reliable manner.
2: Diablo 2 had 3 difficulties and Hell mode was the hardest. That's a joke, because even hell wasn't hard. In D2 anyone could faceroll one to ninety-nine and through all 3 difficulties. This is Diablo 3, they have upped their game. D3 nightmare is the best comparison to D2 hell. The game is harder and as such gear is actually important. D2 trading wasn't "necessary" to do anything because the entire game as easy, again, this is not D2, this is D3, and they raised the bar.
3: kk
4: What D3 is doing right that D2 did wrong is making it viable to simply clear everything to get your loot. Making a game in D2, killing 3 bosses, then resetting got old quick. In D3 we can start an act and play through it and with NV we get tons of drops off every elite pack and boss making the game overall more fun and entertaining. Plus, In D2, you didn't have NV to guarantee at least one good drop as you do now. I spent hours upon hours MF farming with my bowazon without getting anything good, even with fully stacked MF and small MF charms. Now I hop into A1, clear the instance, and get tons and tons of chances at really really good stuff.
Your nostalgia makes me sick. I have played every blizzard PC game every made (lost vikings anyone) and I haven't noticed anything close to a drop in quality. Blizzard is an amazing company and can't be blamed when they change according to the market. If your taste in gaming doesn't change with the market, that's not Blizzards fault. Do I think they could have done things different? Of course. But I think they could have done things different with all of their games.
Blizzard has done a great job with D3, but some people will always want more and/or think they know better.
The problem with MF, is that if you have 75 with no NV stacks a pack doesn't guarantee a rare drop. But if you have ZERO MF and you 5 stack NV(this gives you 75 MF) you are guaranteed a rare off a pack. If I'm 5 stack NV some packs will drop 2-3 rares, but with 75 MF and no stacks there is slim to NO chance of a rare.....WTF blizz is all I have to say.
I am sorry, but are you mentally retarded? Do you even know how the NV buff works? I mean.... have you not read anything about it on this site or others at all? ever?
5 stack NV guarantees you a rare drop IN ADDITION TO the bosses normal drops.
As to the other 1-2 rares, thats because your 150 combined MF has increased the chance that the other items he drops are better quality.
I would love it, but it will never ever ever ever happen. Get yourself some decent MF gear and farm act 1 if you want tons of rares.
Leorics manor (including outfront), Festering woods (including 2 caves), Cemetery Graveyard (including defiled crypts), Halls of Agony lvl 2, Cursed Hold, Halls of agony lvl 3, Butcher. Thats my act 1 run. I get upwards of 60+ rares per run, about 1/3rd are ilvl 61+. With 5 stack NV I am at 250 MF. On top fo that I come out with more than 200k gold per run not including what I vendor.
With 5 stack NV I have 250 MF. Farming act one I get an average of 3, yes 3, rare items per elite pack. Jailer and Butcher generally give me 3-4. I also get a legendary once every 5 or so runs. Yes, MF matters.
People are not leaving the game because of attack speed or any damage nerfs, you got it a bit wrong.
People are leaving the game because of simple things they got bothered with :
1. Drop rate is ruined and game is completely broken now. Farming is completely useless now, unless you want to vendor everything you get.
2. People are annoyed with RMAH and AH. I personally don't have anything against those but it would be better without them probably.
3. There are so many broken classes, broken skills and so many bugs.
4. There is no end game for hard core players. This is not D2, this is not time of gaming from 1999. This is 2012 and people like challenges, end game content and rewarding system.
So once again, there are many issues with the game and damage is the last problem. I m personally still playing game even tho I cleaned entire content 3 weeks ago. Loot is currently broken as long as many other things. I m not a flamer, QQ'er or anything like that.
I m not fan of blizzard nor any other gaming company. I play games I like, I don't care who made them. Be realistic and don't look at the game subjectively.
I hope blizzard will fix this game soon cause game itself has a lot of potential to rock and roll.
Have fun
1: Wrong, I have no problems finding great items in act 1-2-3. In the past 5 days I have made more than 20million gold.
2: People who are annoyed with the AH's are simply ignorant. The AH takes the place of the massive trading you had to do in D2. RMAH takes the place of ebay because anyone with half a brain who played D2 knows people sold tons of stuff on ebay.
3: Broken classes? no. Broken skill? Not really. Bugs? Name one game in the world that has no bugs, I dare you.
4: The Diablo franchise has never been about endgame so complaining about no endgame simply shows your ignorance and stupidity. This is not WoW, this is not Rift, this is not SWTOR. This is an ARPG and nothing more.
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As I have stated in another post, in D2 you could clear the entirety of the game with the items you dropped for yourself because the entire game was stupidly easy. Anyone saying it wasn't either didn't play it or were just really really terrible at Diablo 2. Diablo 3 has stepped up the difficulty by leaps and bounds in comparison to D2. The closest thing in D3 you can compare to D2 hell is D3's nightmare difficulty and even then I think D2 was still easier. As to the loot system, it's the same system from D2 with the exception of legendary items having random properties.
And yes, I have both bought and sold on the AH, because I'm not a complete retard. I realize that it is a 100% viable way to get gear.
As to asking my mother about manners, I have plenty of manners, I am just sick of retards crying about needing to use the AH to get gear. The AH is as much a part of this game as anything else, get it through your thick skull and stop acting like a child about it.
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I <3 ur face off! Have mah babies?
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Welcome to Diablo. I see this is your first ever Diablo game you have played. This is not WoW where you go into kill a boss and you know exactly what he can possibly drop. This is a game about randomly generated loot. Your entire rant past what I read is completely pointless to read because you obviously have little to no clue what Diablo is all about. Diablo is not about hitting top level and farming the best loot as fast as possible. Diablo is more about farming and trading and buying and selling than any other game on the market. All the Diablo games have worked this way and they have a ridiculously huge cult following because of it.
If the randomness of the loot bothers you so much my advice to you is to quit.
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Agreed, rares and legendaries roll differently int he system. Rare items, based on slots, can only roll certain abilities. Legendaries on the other hand have a complete separate list of things each individual one can roll on. I do think that amulets roll table is bugged though, if I got that I would send Bliz a bug report to notify them.
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You lost all credibility when you said this. You proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant in one fell swoop.
If you really think this game is "about the RMAH" then you really really are pretty stupid. Diablo 1 and 2 both had HUGE markets on ebay. D3 would be no different, as such Blizzard nipped it in the bud by adding it right into the game in order to both protect the community and make a little money. If you are dumb enough to see that as a bad thing you probably also have to actively think about breathing to do so.
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The buff you claim that is leading to your so called gripe only increased the chances to drop higher ilvl loot. The buff did not affect the itemization of said drops. Your gripe is against the RNG and/or your own inability to see what items are good compared to bad. I have made more than 20 million gold in the past 7 days farming act 1, 2 times a day. If the items were as bad as your claiming them to be for everyone because of some changes they did with the buff then that would not be the case. Item stats are purely RNG and anyone with half a brain will tell you that RNG can sometimes really suck for a person repeatedly because... well... that R in RNG stand for.... guess what? RANDOM!!!!! OMG!!!!!
http://dictionary.re...m/browse/random
http://www.merriam-w...ctionary/random
http://www.thefreedi...nary.com/random
Maybe those links will help you understand the word Random, you obviously don't understand it now.
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Good, don't defend yourself, you can't, you're lying. And don't call me a nerd rager as if that adds any validity to your lies, not a thing in my reply to you could possibly be taken as nerd raging. You're just upset that you were caught in a lie. As I stated, it just makes you look foolish, and coming back at me with insults makes it even more so.
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You're lying. +experience is not a viable roll on items ilvl 61 or higher. If you are going to join in someone gripefest don't lie about it, just makes you look like a fool.
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Drop rates don't matter? Didn't your false math completely disprove that?
Of course drop rates matter. The more drops (higher drop rate) the better chance of getting the good stats you want.
I am so tired of seeing these posts pop up, it's stupid. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize RNG is RANDOM and you can't control random. If you aren't getting drops to upgrade your own gear and you are surprised then you are obviously completely clueless as to the concept of random. While you probably aren't dropping things that are upgrades for you, you are definitely dropping items that are upgrades for other people. USE THE AH. USE THE TRADE CHAT. SELL THESE ITEMS. GET GOLD. BUY UPGRADES. If this is so hard for a concept for people then those people really need to quit.
I sell most everything I list on the AH because I know what I am listing are things people want. I know what other classes are looking for in their gear. I list at a bid with a buy out of double my bid price according to what other similar items are selling for on the AH. I dropped a nice Dez/Vit/%life belt earlier today, ilvl62. I looked it up on the AH and the closest thing I saw was bid/bo or 2mil. Mine was way better so I listed at 2mil bid, 4mil BO. It had a bunch of bids within an hour then someone bought it. Yesterday I sold a ring for 3.5mil. And I have made mroe than 100 bucks on RMAH in the past week. You can't sit there and tell me your not getting useful items.
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I may impregnate you if you keep talking like that.
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1: At some point you will stop finding items for yourself. This is Diablo, this game is about farming and trading. Trading now means making use of the AH. You sell items that are good for other classes to buy items that are good for you. You WILL NOT drop upgrades for yourself in any reliable manner.
2: Diablo 2 had 3 difficulties and Hell mode was the hardest. That's a joke, because even hell wasn't hard. In D2 anyone could faceroll one to ninety-nine and through all 3 difficulties. This is Diablo 3, they have upped their game. D3 nightmare is the best comparison to D2 hell. The game is harder and as such gear is actually important. D2 trading wasn't "necessary" to do anything because the entire game as easy, again, this is not D2, this is D3, and they raised the bar.
3: kk
4: What D3 is doing right that D2 did wrong is making it viable to simply clear everything to get your loot. Making a game in D2, killing 3 bosses, then resetting got old quick. In D3 we can start an act and play through it and with NV we get tons of drops off every elite pack and boss making the game overall more fun and entertaining. Plus, In D2, you didn't have NV to guarantee at least one good drop as you do now. I spent hours upon hours MF farming with my bowazon without getting anything good, even with fully stacked MF and small MF charms. Now I hop into A1, clear the instance, and get tons and tons of chances at really really good stuff.
Your nostalgia makes me sick. I have played every blizzard PC game every made (lost vikings anyone) and I haven't noticed anything close to a drop in quality. Blizzard is an amazing company and can't be blamed when they change according to the market. If your taste in gaming doesn't change with the market, that's not Blizzards fault. Do I think they could have done things different? Of course. But I think they could have done things different with all of their games.
Blizzard has done a great job with D3, but some people will always want more and/or think they know better.
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I am sorry, but are you mentally retarded? Do you even know how the NV buff works? I mean.... have you not read anything about it on this site or others at all? ever?
5 stack NV guarantees you a rare drop IN ADDITION TO the bosses normal drops.
As to the other 1-2 rares, thats because your 150 combined MF has increased the chance that the other items he drops are better quality.
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yeah
I would love it, but it will never ever ever ever happen. Get yourself some decent MF gear and farm act 1 if you want tons of rares.
Leorics manor (including outfront), Festering woods (including 2 caves), Cemetery Graveyard (including defiled crypts), Halls of Agony lvl 2, Cursed Hold, Halls of agony lvl 3, Butcher. Thats my act 1 run. I get upwards of 60+ rares per run, about 1/3rd are ilvl 61+. With 5 stack NV I am at 250 MF. On top fo that I come out with more than 200k gold per run not including what I vendor.
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1: Wrong, I have no problems finding great items in act 1-2-3. In the past 5 days I have made more than 20million gold.
2: People who are annoyed with the AH's are simply ignorant. The AH takes the place of the massive trading you had to do in D2. RMAH takes the place of ebay because anyone with half a brain who played D2 knows people sold tons of stuff on ebay.
3: Broken classes? no. Broken skill? Not really. Bugs? Name one game in the world that has no bugs, I dare you.
4: The Diablo franchise has never been about endgame so complaining about no endgame simply shows your ignorance and stupidity. This is not WoW, this is not Rift, this is not SWTOR. This is an ARPG and nothing more.