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That would be kinda cool... except that, depressingly, it would almost certainly spawn a whole new family of loot drop conspiracy theories. "My friend got 8 legendaries, I only got 1... don't play Demon Hunters on Tuesdays if you're with a Monk!"

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baka more i dont have to say.

Whatever kid.

Pretty common knowledge: Only children call each other boy and kid on the internets.

Not at all true. Ad hominems are also used by trolls, haters, and people losing an argument.

The problem I have with RiF is entirely around its effect on the community. There seem to be a lot of people who do RiF because they genuinely believe that it's a fast track to epic loot (leading to entitlement and endless bloody RNG QQ), and a lot of people who don't do RiF looking at the RiF community as if they've found a cheat's way to the top.

Purely to reduce community toxicity, I think Blizzard should lower endboss shard drops, and make rift elites drop a few shards each.

... and they seriously need to fix split farming. That shit's definitely broken. Unfortunately, it's been broken for so long that unless they also nerf the RRoG, it'll create a serious haves vs. have-nots problem. Solution: Add the set-bonus affix to the hellfire ring. Done.

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i thank all the casual gamers who whine en beg for buffs on the forums/reddit non-stop every single post is trash you want games that are snacks fast and easy diablo3 go the worst player base of all games..

blizzard is buffing everything they can to keep the complaining mas satisfied while most are not realizing more=less in the long run even a 12 year old can see that go post more tickets and ask for buffs everything MUST drop NOW ASAP.

Awwww bless. It's an angry internet person who's upset about how their gear doesn't make them a special snowflake anymore. Possibly with reading comprehension issues, unless there's actually a (non-ironic) post somewhere demanding instant legendaries.

Rage on, you crazy diamond.

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There seems to be an irrational fear about people getting ahead of others simply by playing in the ladders.

I think the (entirely rational) fear is that Blizzard has an established track record of long and/or erratic seasons (e.g. D2, SC2 and WoW), and as noble as the idea of dropping season legendaries into the general pool is, it's the timeframe that matters. Facilitating player preference (not choice) is all about carefully managing the various reward structures. Blizzard has (IMO) messed that up hugely with the current Campaign vs. Adventure mode situation, and to a lesser extent with the new (we doubled it!) rift buff becoming permanent. I don't have a lot of confidence that they'll get ladder vs. non-ladder right the first time around, either.

IMO, the best solution is to use ladder seasons to introduce a bunch of new legendaries (no orange rares, please)... possibly even sharing a common theme, which start off in ladder play, but are released into general population after a fixed time (e.g. two to four weeks), regardless of season length. This would give ladder players a 'got there first' feel (which is basically what the ladder mindset is, isn't it?), while giving others a reason to give a damn about ladder seasons.

Stay the hell away from that crap:

1. The techniques the hud program uses to do its somewhat legit business are exactly the techniques used by other programs to do stuff that's a lot less acceptable from Blizzard's point of view, and there's no real way for them to tell the difference between 'nearly ok' stuff like the hud program, and 'totally not ok' stuff. Officially sanctioning any particular 3rd-party app would just make all other program's authors try to disguise themselves as the legit stuff, creating a major headache for Blizzard and end-users.

2. Once D3 gets a serious competitive scene (i.e. when ladders arrive), apps that offer a tangible advantage will be viewed as mandatory by too many people, creating a great deal of community tension between the 'play safe, play fair' side and the 'do anything to get an advantage' side, unless the latter side gets banned early, and banned often. Blizzard will not want to be seen as soft on ToS-violations once ladders ship.

3. Personally, I wouldn't touch any 3rd-party app that wasn't open source, regardless of ToS violation. Grayware like that is a perfect vector for all manner of attacks.

In short, it is in Blizzard's interests to stomp on 3rd-party app usage, particularly once ladders have gone live, and it's courting disaster (in the form of account bans and/or breaches) to use them yourself.

Ugh. Isn't this game about slaughtering monsters? So what if there's BiS gear you'll probably never see? If you're playing the game just to 'finish' your character, that's kinda missing the point. It's like having sex just so you can check off the Kama Sutra, and then getting pissy because your girlfriend refuses to do the one on page 34.

Meanwhile, a nano-soul's width away on an axis of reality incomprehensible to mortals.

God: Really, Satan? Another loot QQ thread? Sure you caused enough misery and rage with those things

Satan: Hey man, that wasn't me. I've got the official forums locked down, but can't be fucked with 3rd-party fansites. The ROI is shit

G: Looks like you've got competition, then

S: Not competition, freelancers. That was whole point of that thing with the apple and garden. I'm outsourcing evil, baby!

G: ... to ax-grinding neckbeards? Really? Couldn't you stick with racist billionaires?

S: I like to keep a broad portfolio, and this small-time crap practically runs itself. I'm surprised you haven't interfered

G: Look. It's not my fault so many people think that a flat distribution is the only distribution, and the fix for the Confirmation Bias bug has been scheduled to ship after the next reset.

S: Ha! Now they're talking about us. I guess the 'Stop Bringing Up Religion And Politics In Every Conversation' bug is still being worked on?

G: Go to hell.

Meh. Given how trivial it is to make a really good pRNG (hell, for all we know Blizzard is using hardware entropy sources and are generating actual random numbers), and how likely short patterns are in any random sequence (i.e. extremely), not only is there no plausible explanation of why Blizzard would do this, there is also a plausible explanation of why phenomena like this are entirely possible with a p/RNG.

I, other the hand, play the game because it's fun, and have not fallen into the trap of convincing myself that it is a badly-rigged slot machine. Maybe that's the secret to happiness.

Okay STOP.... I can agree D3 has shortcomings and that Blizzards quality has .. ermm, faded under WoW's shadow, but that in no way means D3 is a bad game. They're actively fixing this project as we speak and it's gotten better with every patch.

On the Note of this bullshit hypocritical argument of Triple A vs indie, I don't think any of you understand how this market works. The triple A honestly is just a moniker for games who had millions of dollars to blow, which equates to people getting paid more. Whether that was the low-level programmer or the lead game designer, or mike morhaime himself it just means more money was dished out to people to pay for the production of this project... They're still just people exactly like the people at grinding gears who make PoE. So to use this bullshit argument "OHMYGAWDD3ISAWFULBECAUSEITWASTRIPLEA,ANDPoEANINDIEGAMEBEATIT" Is nonsensical and stupid. you'd expect higher paid individuals to be of more quality but no that is not the case at all they're just the same programmers, the only thing they did different was with their direction of the game. WHICH IS FINE! OH MY GOD. For once there is genuine diversity in a genre? NO WAY THAT CAN'T BE EVERY GAME MUST EXACTLY BE THE SAME! This generation of gamers is stuck up and believes they are owed everything. When a game designer goes out and comes up with an idea for a game they don't really care what you want they care what they want. That's how a game is made they make a game they want. Then they add features they want. And if you the consumer hate those features and ideas then by all means don't pay for the game. Make an informed decision and play the demo figure it out yourself if you enjoy or not, then move along or purchase the game. But when a game puts everything out on the table for you and clearly states all its features then you can't complain after you've purchased the product because you knew what you were getting into. You understood when you bought the game that this is how it played this was its feature set and that this was how it was going to be. Yet you were still disappointed. That could be the fault of the designers and programmers for making a broken game, but a broken game and a bad game are different because a broken game can be fixed and a bad game is just a game that you personally don't like for its features.

I hate to rant like this but it infuriates me when people are so pissed cause they made a bad purchase, but here's rant part 2.

No game is ever complete on arrival. Every consumer/gamer has to understand that. NO game ever comes out the door perfected and patch free. It's just something we currently have to accept and expect. Programming isn't easy and there are bound to be problems with million lines of code conflicting with each other. I only write code in the hundreds of lines and there are still problems and screw ups. Sometimes things just work weirdly in computers. So to say that just because D3 shipped with problems it was a bad game is stupid because I can think of tons of games within the last decade that shipped with major problems which were later fixed through patches. I.e PATH OF EXILE. Even if they call it "open beta" it might as well have been released, considering it's going to be F2P in the end anyway. I was in the beta and saw some bugs and fixes they had to make and they made them and they fixed up the game a lot and they're still continuing to do so. So to say a game is broken and therefore bad is wrong and illogical because technically every game is broken. They're only bad if the games brokeness exceeds and acceptable norm and Diablo 3 did not exceed that acceptable norm. It wasn't completely unplayable(Error 37 doesn't count that was not Diablos fault but the fault of the servers, although if you held that against diablo i understand), It didn't have gem-ending bugs where you were completely stuck at points. It has balance issues with items yes but that's fixable, and they're continuing to fix it. So to re-iterate why then is diablo a bad game? because it didn't meet your expectations? Because it didn't meet your every desire and want? Well then there's other games. No need to clutter our forums with hate threads.


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Stop whining, you bought the game you made the purchase knowing full well the features of the game if you don't like it move along the major features won't change, only small balance things will and thats it. Stop acting like you were entitled to a wishlist of what you wanted and were upset when none of it was given. You like PoE so much then go play it. I played all 3 major ARPG's that came out thus far in Diablo 3 TL2 and PoE and I have to say i still enjoy D3 more so, TL2 coming in second and PoE coming in close third. Have your opinion and what not but there's no need to just spew out hate on a fans forum.

See, I'm not seeing the same thing. Ever since 1.0.7 was teased I've routinely seen a higher percentage of my friends online in D3 than WoW. Granted, a large portion of my friends list has a slight bias due to it existing from my involvement in a Diablo community podcast, but it still goes to show that while there has definitely been a large ebb and flow to Diablo 3, it is far from dead.

Sure D3 didn't live up to the insane hype, but then again there was nothing Blizzard could have done to have lived up to it. That being said, the game has made marked improvements that have put the game in a really good place and will continue to improve as the patches are rolled out; not to mention the first expansion which should hopefully elevate the game to "D2:LoD levels of stature."

If D3 still isn't floating your boat there's nothing preventing you from taking a break and coming back later.

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Blizzard is Unaware of Diablo 3's Downfall...

It cannot be denied that Diablo 3 got mixed reviews, and substantial negative feedback post-release. See for example very low 3.8/10 Metacritic user rating, and average user rating of 2.2 / 5 on Amazon.

Diablo 3 sold record amounts, yet many fans are seriously disappointed. Now there's new Action RPGs such as Path of Exile which many D3 fans prefer to play instead of D3.

Example: how can the low-budget Path of Exile be able to directly compete against Diablo 3? Diablo 3 is supposed to be the Triple A, blockbuster and gold-standard of the Action RPG genre! So something is amiss.
If budget isn't the cause, then it must be the faulty game design of the lead developers (repetitive gameplay, semi-cartoony washed out graphics, mediocre storyline etc).

Due to so much disappointment among fans it's questionable whether Diablo 4 and 5 would sell as well if Blizzard continues down the current game-design path.

I'm a big fan of the Diablo Franchise so I'm concerned about the disappointing state of Diablo 3.

Blizzard appears to be unaware of Diablo 3's downfall and severly overestimates itself. So they won't really listen to fans nor take essential measures to improve Diablo 3 and redeem the Diablo franchise.

Blizzard can pretend that Diablo 3 is the best Action RPG to date, but many fans think otherwise and will be reluctant to buy another Diablo game.

The Demise of Blizzard

The downfall of Diablo 3 could be the turning point where Blizzard Entertainment itself enters its own demise.

I hope Blizzard can restore the Diablo Franchise to its former glory, but time will tell.

Alright, I have to immediately point out that you present zero facts within your first few sentences. Saying such things as 'substantial negative feedback and 'many' fans are disappointed' is unsubstantiated and completely through your prism. Please remember that it is more likely for someone that dislikes a product to post on the internet compared to someone who likes the product. I'm sorry, you can't just run around spewing opinions backed only by anecdotal evidence as hard facts.

I'm also confused by your first example. Are you really asking how an ARPG can be compared to another ARPG? And more specifically how can an ARPG (PoE) be compared to the grandfather of ARPGS ( the Diablo franchise )? If two games are in the same genre, of course they are going to get compared against one another.

Sorry, but this thread and your post is completely full of, well nothing.

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Diablo 3: The rip-off

Whats the point in even posting? Really? If you dont like it D3. leave. Waste of space.

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Is there any manipulation on Blizzards part to program the game in a manner intended to drive people to the RMAH?

This question is absurd. People are of free will....they can choose to participate, they can choose to decline participation. So, what if a player feels they cannot enjoy the game or otherwise succeed without using the RMAH? Will they be inclined to use the RMAH because Blizzard made the game too hard by design? Sure, I'm sure some/many will. But....this entity existed in in Diablo 2 as well, only it wasn't the software company getting a cut. It was some spamming asshole named Mike or Zheng Min Quan that sits in their dark bedroom monitoring 20 computers that are running bots. People use their wallets in every game to buy themselves ahead.

While I will never purchase an item on the RMAH (or D2JSP or any of that garbage)... I agree wholeheartedly. I've said it before - you can check my post history - I feel that whether or not Blizzard is trying to "scam" us into using the RMAH that I am still vastly happier that Blizzard is getting the auction fees and not some 3rd party site. Why? Because money going to D2JSP doesn't inherently help me, but money going to Blizzard does, because I'm using Blizzard products. I would defend Steam much the same way, it has less to do with the gaming studio and more to do with the fact that said gaming studio can generate some revenue from a game that otherwise would generate no revenue which will, hopefully, allow it to continue into the future for a long, long, time.

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To be clear, RMAH conspiracy or not, if I have to choose between D2JSP getting a cut of the transactions or the game studio (like Blizzard or Valve) I'm going to choose the game studio simply because it will ensure that the servers stay on just a little longer and maybe I get another patch or two out of the game I'm playing.