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The people who claim that Diablo 2 had such a big build diversity and such amazing items forget that 99% of the Diablo 2 guides also were about the same 2-3 items. Diversity wasnt as big as you guys think.

Also, the game D2 was much easier in general. Of course you can have more builds when you can just steamroll mobs with any item combination as soon as you reached a certain power level. The endless scaling actually adds challenge and replayability to D3.

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I want to struggle to get my gear, i want to struggle to get my hellfire, paragon is too powerful at some point. In diablo power should come from the gear only, it's an hack & slash for crying out loud .

I always thought that seasons are only for the hardcore few who really want to compete in grift leaderbords.

I was happy for months playing non season casually because if you dont invest several hours per day into the game, you always have something to improve on with your chars. I leveled all classes and started farming the class sets for them and with casually logging in here and there, this kept me busy more or less since D3 release.

That all of course changed with 2.3 when it took me an entire day to equip my witch doctor to near perfect gear. TbH 2.3 kinda killed it for me. Gearing up is just too fast now.

But to stay on the topic of losing steam... I never had much to begin with. If you really want to go for a full season and staying competitive, you have to be aware that you can kiss your real life goodbye for at least 3 months and do nothing else but farm farm farm for more time than you spend in a full time job. If that is not for you, then forget about competitive season all together.

I did this once when WoW came out. I did not have a job back then and enjoyed the time. I'll never do it again though. I think my wife would leave me, not to mention my job etc.

They could make gold some sort of ammunition, with copper silver gold and platinum bullets that do more and more damage the better metal you use.

Yes that is totally stolen from Terraria.

Star metal kukuri

mask of jeram and taskers and theo

ring of royal grandeur

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I never said there is a "big competitive aspect". I didn't even hint at it.

What I said is that I find it exceedingly lame for you to blast people who do hit the boards as no-life losers and cheaters.

Where you find a competition aspect in D3 is when you suffice to compete with yourself, which is the attitude I approach the game with. Placing on the boards is nothing to me but a gauge of how well I've progressed.

I did not blast all people who hit the leaderbords as no life. Even I am on some leader boards. I did not say losers either. Hey, they won the season, so they are winners right?

I said that if you want to be realy competitive, you gotta spend 12-ish hours a day for months. There were play time numbers of the season leaders postet here on this site after season 2. 12 hours a day is pretty much the average they had. Saying that people with a normal full time job can not spend this ammount of time on a game is hardly "blasting" people. I think it's a pretty self explanatory statement.

What I said is that the leaderboards mainly measure time spent farming. Which should be pretty obvious too, since the game has no mechanics that require skill to beat. So the main differences are time invested and drop luck.

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That's a very nasty, condescending, cynical view of leaderboards. Just getting on the boards is fun for me, no matter where I place. I don't play 12 hours a day, but I enjoy aspiring to place on them. At least there isn't a Pay To Win dynamic in D3, bots and THUD aside.

My advice is to stay in NS if you don't have so much time to sink. That way, you have a shot at the boards, and getting on them feels tremendously rewarding.

Is it really? Can you realy say that there is a big competitive aspect?

I mean compare it with a game like chess or starcraft, or a sport like tennis, or any activity where you learn actual skills while playing and your skill is the deciding factor on how good you get.

And yes, i play only NS. I enjoy slaying a few monsters from time to time. It's the easy gameplay and the hack&slash fun that keeps me playing. But competing? IMO d3 is as competitive as coin flipping.

Leaderbords are worthless anyway.

I mean really, D3 is a fun game and all, but to be on top of the leaderboards you gotta play 24/7 when you are not running your bot. People hit 1000+ paragon easily in one season, that's like 12 hours average per day for an entire season. Do you realy wanna do that? Are you realy that guy?

Not to mention the lottery that is the grift leaderbords, once you see a new name up there you know who just got an ancient BIS weapon for his build.

D3 "leaderbords" are about two things only. How little of a life you have and how lucky you are with drops. Definitly not the kind of competition I want to be part of. You either lose, or have no life or are a lucky bastard. Well hurray for you.

I bet 95% of the people who are complaining here are not realy seriously "competing" in D3 anyway. Not many people have 12 hours a day to waste for months. Most gotta work and stuff.

I liked many things about D3 vanilla, but grinding the AH was not one of them.

I dont like how they made the game so much easier though. Why did they remove the enrage timer on elites? Or the health regeneration? Or actually challenging mobs in inferno difficulty? Or a gearing curve that takes longer than 2-3 days?

They should have removed the AH, increased drop rates accordingly, and leave the rest of the game as it was.

Wow another Rng is Rng thread.

• * Getting your WD setup to level quickly to Max Level
• * Efficiency in Bounty Quest Choices
• * Difficulty Settings, Broken down by Levels
• * Skill Choice, Broken down by Levels
• * Tactics for Gearing while Level progressing
• * Appropriate gears choices while Leveling.

• * Executing the hunt for a boon of the Hoarder, and Solid Jewelry Choices (Rings/Amulets)
• * Identifying a Solid plan to begin gearing for Torment Lv. 1-3 Content
• * Determining (Based upon Drops) which Build to commit to, that will allow you to begin farming higher level torments (Lv's 5-6)
• * Acquiring 3 Legendary Gems for your build, to begin Gem development in the "GR" System

• * All the remaining time you have left in the First "24" Hours to push your WD to T6 Farming
• * Finishing off Gem progression, (Legendary Gems, and Non Legendary counter parts)
• * Min-Maxing with Craft-able Sets.

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Normal Difficulty
• * Hire Enchantress Follower
• * Poison Darts (Level 1)
• * Grasp of the Dead (Level 2)
• * Zombie Dogs (Level 4)
• * Poison Dart "Splinters" Rune (Level 6)
• * Soul Harvest (Level 9)
• * Jungle Fortitude *Passive* (Level 10)

• * Poison Dart "Splinters"
• * Grasp of the Dead
• * Zombie Dogs
• * Soul Harvest

• * Jungle Fortitude

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Master Difficulty
• * Haunt (Level 12) ---> Replaces Poison Darts
• * Zombie Dogs "Rabid dogs" Rune (Level 12)
• * Grasp of the Dead "Groping Eels" Rune (Level 15)
• * Spirit Walk (Level 16)
• * Gruesome Feast *Passive* (Level 16) ---> Replaces Jungle Fortitude *Passive*
• * Haunt "Consuming Spirit Rune" (Level 18)
• * Gargantuan (Level 19)
• * Blood Ritual *Passive* (Level 20)
• * Locust Swarm (Level 21) ----> Replaces Grasp of the Dead
• * Soul Harvest "Siphon"

• * Haunt "Consuming Spirit"
• * Locust Swarm
• * Spirit Walk
• * Soul Harvest "Siphon"
• * Zombie Dogs "Rabid Dogs"
• * Gargantuan

• * Blood Ritual
• * Gruesome Feast

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Master Difficulty
• * Gargantuan "Humongoid" Rune (Level 22)
• * Haunt "Resentful Spirits" Rune (Level 23)
• * Spirit Walk "Jaunt" Rune (Level 23)
• * Locust Swarm "Pestilence" Rune (Level 27)
• * Pierce the Veil *Passive* (Level 27) ---> Replaces Blood Ritual *Passive*

• * Haunt "Resentful Spirits"
• * Locust Swarm "Pestilence"
• * Spirit Walk "Jaunt"
• * Soul Harvest "Siphon"
• * Zombie Dogs "Rabid Dogs"
• * Gargantuan "Humongoid:

• * Pierce The Veil
• * Gruesome Feast

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Torment 1 or Master Difficulty
• * Zombie Dogs "Life Link" Rune (Level 28)
• * Gargantuan "Restless Giant" Rune (Level 29)
• * Fetish Sycophants *Passive* (Level 30)
• * Rush of Essence *Passive* (Level 36) -----> Replaces Gruesome Feast *Passive*

• * Haunt "Resentful Spirits"
• * Locust Swarm "Pestilence"
• * Spirit Walk "Jaunt"
• * Soul Harvest "Siphon"
• * Zombie Dogs "Life Link"
• * Gargantuan "Restless Giant"

• * Pierce The Veil
• * Rush of Essence
• * Fetish Sycophants

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Torment 1 or Master Difficulty
• * Spirit Walk "Soul to Waste" Rune (Level 39)

• * Will be available in Patch 2.1.2
• * Poison Property Haunt, Increases Damage on Affected Targets by 20%
• * Very Strong leveling tool, will enable T1/T2 Farming easily until Level 70
• * For now however Resentful Spirits will get the job until the next patch is available

• * Haunt "Resentful Spirits" (Patch 2.1.1) or (Poisoned Spirit Patch 2.1.2)
• * Locust Swarm "Pestilence"
• * Spirit Walk "Jaunt"
• * Soul Harvest "Soul to Waste"
• * Zombie Dogs "Life Link"
• * Gargantuan "Restless Giant"

• * Pierce The Veil
• * Rush of Essence
• * Fetish Sycophants

• * Adventure Mode Bounties
• * Torment 2 or Torment 1 Difficulty
• * Piranhas (Level 61) ----> Replaces Soul Harvest
• * Piranhas "Zombie Piranhas" (Level 63)

• * Haunt "Resentful Spirits" (Patch 2.1.1) or (Poisoned Spirit Patch 2.1.2)
• * Locust Swarm "Pestilence"
• * Spirit Walk "Jaunt"
• * Piranhas "Zombie Piranhas"
• * Zombie Dogs "Life Link"
• * Gargantuan "Restless Giant"

• * Pierce The Veil
• * Rush of Essence
• * Gruesome Feast
• * Creeping Death

• * Pretty Self Explanatory, Jeweler, Enchantress, Black Smith upgraded all to Max Level

• * No way to get around it, you need gold and lots of it
• * Re-rolls on Gear, Crafting Gear, Gem Crafting
• * Shouldn't Take more then 1-2 Hours to pop a Goblin Rift, if you are farming them correctly

• * Rings Take 2 Marquise Diamonds + Gold To Craft from the Jewel Crafter
• * Amulets Require 1 of each Marquise Gem + Gold to Craft from the Jewel Crafter
• * Initial Ring/Ammy Stats: Int, Critical Chance, Socket
• * Optimal Ring/Ammy Stats: Int, Critical Chance, Critical Damage, Socket

• * Shoulders --> Int, Vit, Armor, Life %
• * Helm ---> Int, Vit, Critical Chance
• * Chest ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Socket (3)
• * Pants ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Socket (3)
• * Boots ---> int, Vit, Armor, Increased Movement Speed
• * Gloves ---> Int, Vit, Critical Chance, Critical Damage
• * Belt ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Life %
• * Weapon ---> 2 Handed Int, Increased Damage %, Socket

• * Target Toughness 3-4m
• * Target DPS 350-500k
• * Personally I await until 4m Toughness with 500k Dps before switching to Torment 1 @ Lv 70

• * Every-time after Defeating a Rift Guardian, you have a % Chance to acquire a Greater Rift token, the chance for it to drop increases with Torment difficulty
• * After Completing a Greater Rift, you receive 1 Random Legendary gem until you acquire all of them.
• * Your goal is to obtain 3 Legendary Gems that are working towards you "Gear Progression" Build
• * "Safe Gems" To Use/Level are as follows: Bane of the Trapped, Bane of the Powerful
• * Usually your 3rd Gem Option is determined by build

• * Target Toughness 4-5m
• * Target DPS 600-800k
• * Once you hit Torment Level 3, you should have a good understanding of What build your working towards
• * Getting to this Stage int he first 24 hours as quickly as possible, will allow more time int he final phase to reach T5-T6 Difficulty farming potential at the end of the first 24 hours as a New Witch Doctor

• * Farming Rifts
• * Farming Greater Rifts when GR Keystones drop form Regular Rift runs.
• * Upgrading Your Legendary Gems
• * Spending Blood Shards on specific Gear slots to improve your Build

• * Knowing what Build you are committing to and making the correct purchases with Blood Shards
• * Making Purchases between runs, to allow for frequent upgrade

• * Identifying the 3 Gems that will work with your build
• * Upgrading gems with the 1-1-1 Method
• * Minimize Gem Failing once Gems Reach Level 15

• * If running Cains Set, with Aughilds this might be necessary
• * If attempting to Go for a "6" Piece Jade Set this WILL be Necessary

• * Re-Rolling Sub Par Gear
• * Re-Crafting Sub Par Set Gear

• * Crafting Topazes to their highest level.

• * Has the most easiest bounties to complete in game
• * Monster A.I. pales in comparison to other ones from Acts 2-5
• * Bounty maps objectives, usually spawn in the same areas

• * Here is a Image the explains it all:

• * Green = You should do these Bounties all the time
• * Blue = You should do these bounties, when it doesn't involve killing a boss
• * Red = You should never do these bounties.....period

• * One case, is how Difficulty level effects bosses greatly, Last thing you want to do is fight Skeleton King, Queen Araneae, or the Butcher on Masters+ Difficulty or higher, for the amount of time they take, it is not worth it.
• The area also could just be to large, and random to successfully locate the bounty objective quickly. This rears its ugly head with any bounties that takes place on Caverns of Araneae, or Fields of Misery

• * It is ok to do these bounties, ONLY if the bounty that is given DOESN'T involve killing a Boss Monster.

• * Pools of Reflection provide a 25% bonus to experience
• * This bonus persists until you reach a set amount of bonus experience (equal to approximately 10% of the current amount of Paragon experience needed to reach the next Paragon level) or your character dies.
• * Gathering additional Pools of Reflection bonuses increases the amount of total experience bonus a character can receive until character death, stacking up to 10 times
• *This experience bonus persists on logout

• * 2 Handed weapons are the best due to our skill choices, their accessibility, and how well their damage scales as we level up.
• * The weapons scale Very well, and make it so we don't have to worry about finding a proper Off Handed weapon
• * Equipping anything that increases the Damage for your Witch docotor. (Armor more specifically)
• * Any type of gear, that increases the amount of experience you receive
• * Level 61+ Any Helmet that has a Socket for a Marquise Ruby Gem

• * NPC Merchants, believe it or not they do carry nice Weapons, and Jewelry
• * If your Weapon begins to start lacking, and you need to replace it to keep a good leveling pace, Checking the Merchants in each Act will help your out A TON. So don't neglect this option.

• * Breaking down Items at the Black Smith
• * Picking up, or using Gems
• * Learning any Pre-61 Crafting Plan
• * Keeping, or saving any Pre- Level 60 Legendary
• * Upgrading any Artisan Pre- Level 61

• * Pick up everything you can Pre- 61, and sell it for gold
• * Once you reach level 61 Start picking up EVERYTHING, because these items are the "End Game" Crafting items.
• * If you get any Level 60-70 Voodoo Witch Doctor Helmet save them!

• * Haunt, and Locust Swarm by far
• * Damage over Time spells are very powerful tools while leveling, and scale Dramatically well with 2 Handed Weapons.
• * The build that I have below is a build that works well into level 70, and beyond. If you need the level by level on what skills to you, you can check out the 24 Hour Witch Doctor Phase 1 Itinerary section located at the beginning of the guide.

• * Only do the bounties that are "Green" or "Blue"
• * Pick up everything, and sell it to vendors until Level 61
• * If you are out leveling your weapon, Npcs can provide Excellent Weapon & Jewelry options, make sure to check all of the merchants in each Act
• * Remember to adjust Skills, game difficulty, passives, and runes as you are leveling.
• * Get a Socket-ed helmet for Levels 61-70, and place a Marquise Ruby inside it!
• * Pools of reflection are you friends, don't waste them by dying!

• * Once your level 70 you will have more than enough Gold, and some Last breaths to upgrade these artisans to max level.

• * Crafting anything other than set items from the black smith is a little bit of a waste
• * Aughilds Power, and Cain's Set give you the greatest potential out of the items you can craft.
• * Crafting any items from the Black Smith give it the potential to roll "Ancient Level Stats"

• * Would not advise to craft your gems higher then Marquise, unless you are using them as a crafting material when your re-rolling legendary Jewelry.
• * We will be using this Artisan mostly for the "Rare" Jewelry crafting option
• **Rare Ring Crafting**
• * Requires 2 Marquise Diamond, and Gold per Rare Ring Crafted
• * Optimal Stats wanted: Int, Critical Hit Chance, Increased Critical Damage, Socket(1)
• * Stat alternative that is "ok": Int, Critical Hit Chance, Socket(1)

• * Requires 1 Marquise Gem of each Color excluding Diamonds, and Gold per Rare Amulet Crafted
• * Optimal Stats wanted: Int, Critical Hit Chance, Increased Critical Damage, Socket(1)
• * Stat alternative that is "ok": Int, Increased Critical Damage, Socket(1)

• * Pretty simple here with this artisan, she allows you to re-roll one Stat of your choice. for crafting materials
• * Only thing to say about here, is that Chest, Pants, Belts, Shoes are fairly expensive to re-roll stats on so be careful.
• * Gloves, and Wrist are by far the cheapest to re-reoll.
• * Any items you continual re-roll has their base gold cost increased every time the enchantress is used, this is however excluded when re-rolling Legendary Jewelry (Rings/ Amulets) the cost for these items are consumed in the forum of Gems.

• * Boon of the Hoarder is a Legendary Gem in Diablo III. It can only be socketed into Amulets and Rings, and, unlike other Legendary Gems, only drops from Greed in the Treasure Realm.

• * This gem gives a chance to cause any killed enemy (even if killed by a pet or a minion) to drop several large piles of gold in addition to their normal loot. The explosion does not cause any damage. Upgrading the gem increases the chance to proc, though for realistic purposes, it is not worth upgrading after reaching rank 50.

• * At rank 25, it also gives a brief movement speed boost after picking up gold.

• * This gem will have no effect in Greater Rifts. It will also not trigger off of kills made by anyone other than the Nephalem hero who uses this gem, even their own followers. It is also the only gem that gives no real combat effectiveness by itself. The massive quantities of gold offered, however, do prove very potent when coupled with items like Goldwrap and the Custerian Wristguards.

• * The Boon of the Hoarder is one of the three gems (the others being Gogok of Swiftness and Invigorating Gemstone) that actually have a limit of effective ranking at 50.

• * By setting the game Difficulty to Normal, and targeting areas in Adventure mode (non rifts), where Goblin spawn rates are high.
• **Can I get a Treasure Realm to spawn from goblins in rifts?**
• * No you cannot, it has to be in Adventure mode, you must be level 70, and it is only Goblins that are NOT inside of a rift.

• * The goblins I target it are in these Areas: Act 1 Araneae, Tower of the Cursed level (1 & 2), Core of the Arreat

• * Gold is the sole reason, due to the fact that Crafting, Gem Crafting, and Using the enchanter for re-rolls is can get VERY expensive.
• * Securing this item early on, will grant you easy gold for a lifetime.

• * Shoulders --> Int, Vit, Armor, Life %
• * Helm ---> Int, Vit, Critical Chance
• * Chest ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Socket (3)
• * Pants ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Socket (3)
• * Boots ---> int, Vit, Armor, Increased Movement Speed
• * Gloves ---> Int, Vit, Critical Chance, Critical Damage
• * Belt ---> Int, Vit, Armor, Life %
• * Weapon ---> 2 Handed Int, Increased Damage %, Socket
• * Weapon ---> 1 Handed Int, Increased Damage %, Socket
• * Off Hand ---> Int, Vit, Crit Chance, *Increased Skill Damage*

• * Target Toughness 3-4m
• * Target DPS 350-500k
• * Personally I await until 4m Toughness with 500k Dps before switching to Torment 1 @ Lv 70

• * Target Toughness 4-5m
• * Target DPS 600-800k
• * Once you hit Torment Level 3, you should have a good understanding of What build your working towards
• * Getting to this Stage int he first 24 hours as quickly as possible, will allow more time in the final phase to reach T5-T6 Difficulty farming potential at the end of the first 24 hours as a New Witch Doctor

• * All you need to run this build is a Solid 2 handed weapon, and sub-par Rolls on your gear.

• * Can get you into Torment 3 Farming very easily, and with the help of few items do Torment 6 easily.

• * Straight forward Pet build, can get you farming towards Torment Levels 1-3 Easily
• * Does take a little bit of luck, and effort to take this build T6 However
• * Only thing bad about pet builds, is that their initial gearing works well for lower torments, but takes a while to obtain the all the items that push it to the end game.
• * However once said items are acquired, many Pet builds can easily push Great Rift Level 40 + Content Easily

• * Every-time after Defeating a Rift Guardian, you have a % Chance to acquire a Greater Rift token, the chance for it to drop increases with Torment difficulty
• * After Completing a Greater Rift, you receive 1 Random Legendary gem until you acquire all of them.
• * Your goal is to obtain 3 Legendary Gems that are working towards you "Gear Progression" Build
• * "Safe Gems" To Use/Level are as follows: Bane of the Trapped, Bane of the Powerful
• * Usually your 3rd Gem Option is determined by build

• * Jeram (Voodoo helm) 9.09% Drop Rate
• * Grin Reaper (Voodoo helm) 18.18% Drop Rate
• * Worm Wood (Season 2 Patch 2.1.2 Weapon) 18.18% Drop Rate
• * Quetzalcoatl (Voodoo helm) 9.09% Drop Rate
• * Rhen'ho Flayer (Ceremonial Knife) 7.04% Drop Rate

• * The % Chance Drop is for when a legendary drops for that specified s

• * I.E.: A legendary Sword drops, Doom Bringer Drop Rate is Roughly 5-6%, so basically out of every 20 Legendary Swords that drop you "SHOULD IN THEORY", have one of those drops be a Doom Bringer.

• * Keep in mind you could go through 40 Legendary Swords, and see no Doom Bringer, then on your next two Legendary Sword drops you get two Doom Bringers in a row, that is what we call "RNG" or Random Number Generator.

• * From the Game Theory Wiki Definition:

• * Min-maxing is the practice of playing a role-playing game, wargame or video game with the intent of creating the "best" character by means of minimizing undesired or unimportant traits and maximizing desired ones.[1] This is usually accomplished by improving one specific trait or ability by sacrificing ability in all other fields. This is easier to accomplish in games where attributes are generated from a certain number of points rather than in ones where they are randomly generated.[2] Min-maxing is particularly common in games where the cost of traits does not reflect their expected usefulness; for instance, in a combat-heavy game a player may focus on physical traits, giving a character abnormally low mental and social skills so that the remaining points can all be channeled to physical statistics that are more likely to come into play.[citation needed]

• Some video games have guides dedicated to building the absolute "best" character. Min-maxing in video games is considered expert-level play as it requires a perfect understanding of the game's mechanics and systems, but once it is achieved, a game is no longer challenging.

• * Lets look at 6 pieces of gear, with a Stat cap of 500 INT. With those 6 Pieces you average 440 Int per piece of gear, bringing you to 2,640 Int Count. If you were to able to bring the average to 460 Int per piece of gear gear, your new Int count would be 2,760 an improvement of 120 Int. If you were able to average 490 Int Average per piece of gear 2,940, that's a 300 Int Difference from the 440 Avg we started with. So with 13 Item slots in Diablo 3, improving your gear piece by piece, maximizing your Stat rolls on each individual pieces of your gear makes a huge difference in character development.

• * Farming Regular Rifts (Torment 3)
• * Farming Greater Rifts when GR Keystones drop form Regular Rift runs.
• * Upgrading Your Legendary Gems, after completing the Greater Rift
• * Spending Blood Shards on specific Gear slots to improve your Build, or Min-Max certain items
• * Repeat the steps above.

• * Knowing what Build you are committing to and making the correct purchases with Blood Shards
• * Making Purchases between runs, to allow for frequent upgrades
• * Gambling for items that "realistically" get is easily, (High Drop % chance items)

• * Identifying the 3 Gems that will work with your build
• * Upgrading gems with the 1-1-1 Method
• * Minimize Gem Failing once Gems Reach Level 15

• * If running Cains Set, with Aughilds this might be necessary
• * If attempting to Go for a "6" Piece Jade Set this WILL be Necessary

• * Crafting Topazes to their highest level.

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FYI I played Diablo 2 since 1.07 and still do to this day. Just so we know where we stand. From some of your points it seems to me that you didn't play Diablo 2 online AT ALL

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Diablo 2 had THE best economy system of any online game - a Barter based system with values only serving as basic guidelines. Prices of any item are well known (if you spend any time trading) in High Runes/ Ists/ SoJs, but you can still get good deals either way (buy low, sell high, just like D3 flipping) but it actually involves human contact and isn't just Open AH -> enter stats -> Click Buyout.

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This is a good thing however as it lead to D2 economy obviously being far better and more stable than D3 one, even with the game being 13 years older.

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Also you could just magic find and play in any part of Hell and nearly guaranteed get stuff to sell every now and then.

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There's a reason why 100% of rich D3 players are either Flippers or Dual Visa wielders. (This was all before d2jsp took over and D2 had an actual economy in-game - I can see how someone wouldn't like d2jsp, though it has its merits)

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Let's get the obvious right out of the way: D2 has a respec system (again obvious you haven't played it in a long time/ ever).

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Diablo 3 skills are unbalanced. Every class has 1-2 viable builds and everything else is used than less than 1% of the population.

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Not sure why d2 gets so much praise, some things were good but there was also plenty of bad.

D3 actually beats out D2 in many respects, all gameplay related IMO.

Diablo 2 had the best itemization of any ARPG ever made....that's why the game was so great and had such unreal staying power. If D3 could accomplish the same lofty level of itemization, it would be even better than D2.

It's just a shame they didn't stick to the same itemization template, only, adding more. Instead, they shit-canned most of D2's great itemization ideas and the result was an epic, smoldering failure.

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It doesn't matter if trading would take place outside of the game, in forums.
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I don't care that people have better gear than me, I don't care that "people would still flip and trade and buy their gear in 3rd party sites".

Slain enemies rest in pieces is a damage modifier that scales with both primary stat and critical hit damage. The modifier is ((1+ primary/100) * (1+ critical hit damage/100)). Note that this applies to a normal finishing blow, which is always "yellow". When you critically hit on the finishing blow, you also get the usual critical damage bonus on top of it.

Monk casts Exploding Palm on Mobs, everyone dpses mobs with exploding palm on it.

DH casts M4D:GR on mob next to a mob with palm before it dies due to Palm damage*Sever (legendary sword) multiplier.

Massive damage dealt in 20 yard radius.

Profit.

Monk casts EP on a mob A. When mob A dies it does damage to mob B based on its HP aye?

However if that damage kills mob B instead of merely damaging it, the monk multiplies that kill damage to values as high as 2-3b on mob B.

M4D works this way, whatever damage that mob takes is dealt as an AOE in 20 yards. So therefore if the DH marks mob B, the effect will proc and you'll see a 20 yard wipe (very noticeable in large packs of trash)