If you like it, you like it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. If I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be here right now. Maybe it's just me, but I got better things to do than to frequent a fansite of a game I am displeased with.
I'm glad you said this.
I often wonder why people would frequent a forum to say how unhappy they areto people they don't know, and most likely dislike. It makes absolutely no sense to me, whatsoever. Wouldn't you rather occupy your preciously limited time with something that brings you enjoyment, or are you so broken in life that you need to go bring people down who find pleasure out of something as simple as a product of entertainment...
Well, this is Diiablo Fans, not Diablo 3 Fans.
Thats a good point...but...true fans of the franchise should remember that D2 didn't have runewords or many other staples of the game as we now know it when it was released. Perspective is key.
Look...I loved D2. Great memories there and I loved my time playing it. But it seems to me many folks seem to have a warped memory when comparing D3 to it's predecessor, D2.
The servers were janky at best. Ongoing lag issues were a common problem throughout the entire time I played it, as well as rubber-banding.
Most notably, dupes and hacks killed the integrity of the game. How many of us were victimized by trading something of great value for an item, only to have it poof?
My last stint with D2 was circa 2010....I decided to play for 'ol times sake as I was recovering from surgery. It was near unplayable due to spam-bots.
People have this misguided romanticism about D2 and they're unfairly holding it up on a pedestal in compare to D3. They need to stop and really remember the problems we had.
No offline mode? GREAT!
Denying hackers the full client protects the program from manipulation. They learn to manipulate via offline full-client and take that knowledge directly to the online client, raping it of it's integrity. I for one am glad as hell that dupes and hacks will be held in check, even if it means I cannot play offline.
As I said on the last page....take the MF off. It's not helping as much as people think. Get to the highest iLvL area you can survive easily in, kill kill kill and take what drops. Stacking MF isn't going to help you if you can't farm high iLvL areas with ease.
I'm level 56 and i haven't gotten even 1 legendary so far. (I have enough mf)
I think people are making a mistake with MF so early on. Concentrate on survivabilty and take what falls. Some of my greatest finds in my D2 career....I didn't even have MF...ZERO!
People need to understand the math here. In D2, 300% MF only increased your elite drops by a VERY marginal amount. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but it was something like...between 300% MF and 1000% MF, your chance of an elite drop went up by only 1 in 500.
People....take the MF off until you can cruise Hell mode with impunity. Than start switching in some MF gear.
Hmm... I found normal incredibly easy sorry to say, without using the AH. I died once on my solo run and that was in A3 and not on a boss.
Normal is like a tutorial. You can enter with a character you know nothing about, skills you know nothing about, and by the time you're on NM you should have a grasp of things and be ready for a challenge.
I just don't see how people can struggle on normal?
I would assume most people that struggle on norm are Diablo franchise rookies. Most of us that are familiar with the franchises template shouldn't have many issues through the first phase.
For example; I wish gem names were a different colour; quite easy to miss them being white, as they blend in. This is a minor thing of course.
Remember D2 and high runes? I often wonder....how many zod runes were left on the ground throughout the history of the game? I have actually walked up on loot that dropped from myself or others and found Lo, Ist and Mal runes just laying there among the garbage.
I always wondered why HR's weren't brightly colored, considering their worth.
Hmm... I found normal incredibly easy sorry to say, without using the AH. I died once on my solo run and that was in A3 and not on a boss.
Normal is like a tutorial. You can enter with a character you know nothing about, skills you know nothing about, and by the time you're on NM you should have a grasp of things and be ready for a challenge.
I just don't see how people can struggle on normal?
I would assume most people that struggle on norm are Diablo franchise rookies. Most of us that are familiar with the franchises template shouldn't have many issues through the first phase.
It was addressed only a few hours after Method was streaming a live feed of them doing this. What great quality control for Blizz devs to just be able to sit back and have the issues exposed by people they don't even have to pay.
It's best for us players in the long run that these issues get addressed so that we don't get roped into cyclic and nauseatingly repetative runs for years to come....i.e. Pindle, Shenk, Mephisto...rinse repeat for 6 years.
I think it's important to note that people are trying too hard to pretend they know this game when it's not even been a week yet. We are all noobs at this point........and I imagine several months from now, people making posts like this are gonna giggle when they look back.
Playing devil's advocate here, but...what if you were a huge fan of all past CoD releases, and then along comes a new CoD that changes most of the things you liked about the previous games, almost to the point of it not quite feeling CoD to you? Would you be happy?
No, I would not be happy. But I cannot see myself putting any effort into complaining about it to strangers via a fan forum.
What bugs me about much of the complaining is the rhetoric like "fanboy" and other insults being fired at people that love the game, as if these dissatisfied players wish to convince people that they really shouldn't like the game.
If you like it, you like it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. If I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be here right now. Maybe it's just me, but I got better things to do than to frequent a fansite of a game I am displeased with.
why do you even give a f*** what other people think or say or expect from the game? just play with your friends, have fun and stop caring about the opinions of people you don't even know.
People come here to learn about the game, discuss the game and enjoy the excitement of a release many of us waited for over a half-decade to play. Yet we have to wade through the garbage of thread after thread of people that;
1) Aren't fans of the franchise/Aren't familiar with the Diablo template
2) Are immature
3) Are impatient
4) Are trolls
I don't like Call Of Duty. I thought it sucked. Did I join a CoD fan forum and troll it to death with complaints? No. I wouldn't frequent a website with the word (GAME I HATE) combined with the word "fan". If they don't like it, go away, please. Criticism is one thing, we all have that and it can be constructive. But the immature ranting about Blizzard being a scrupulous greedy corporation and this game sucking.......go away.
Edit: Don't forget this is 4 man / co-op which is harder than solo.
No, co-op is easier. The fact that players can die multiple times and simply get ressed by allies is enough reason. The increased numbers don't really matter on a fight already as long as Inferno Diablo. It's a faster fight with more room for error.
+1 ....
Regardless of anything else, it's always easier with support.
Waiting for the world first legit kill. Not taking anything away from Method and whatnot, but they trivalized Inferno by having a whole team farming items and such for their players that were working for the world first. Which is impressive, I'm really not trying to take anything away from them, but I'll be a lot more impressed when someone does it without doing all that.
The guy who soloed it? Congrats to him but it does seem like he cheesed it, which isn't really impressive.
Yes but...how would one prove they cleared inferno without passing up mobs, using farm exploits or taking handouts from friends? Congrats to Method and Krip as well.....the Danish fellow accomplished something quite awesome....grats to them all.
Whats important is that these "pros" streaming live exploits essentially makes them unofficial quality control agents for Blizzard. Which is great for the players. Blizzard addressed a chest farm exploit they were broadcasting within a few hours. Keep broadcasting your exploits, please, so that they may be removed.
Whats really important, as a player, is how YOU accomplish goals in the game.
People just don't know this game yet, but for whatever reason, they assume they do after only four days. I'm hearing talk that melee is impossible in Inferno. Some perspective; I remember many years ago taking my Zealot to hell, solo, and getting to the arcane sanctuary.
Well....at first, when I was ignorant of the game I didn't know how to mitigate mobs of physical-immunes set on a narrow, impassable pathway. It was "impossible". After time, I learned how to deal with it solo (adding elemental dmg to attacks etc). Such will occur over time with D3. People think its impossible...they learn it's not....
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Thats a good point...but...true fans of the franchise should remember that D2 didn't have runewords or many other staples of the game as we now know it when it was released. Perspective is key.
Look...I loved D2. Great memories there and I loved my time playing it. But it seems to me many folks seem to have a warped memory when comparing D3 to it's predecessor, D2.
The servers were janky at best. Ongoing lag issues were a common problem throughout the entire time I played it, as well as rubber-banding.
Most notably, dupes and hacks killed the integrity of the game. How many of us were victimized by trading something of great value for an item, only to have it poof?
My last stint with D2 was circa 2010....I decided to play for 'ol times sake as I was recovering from surgery. It was near unplayable due to spam-bots.
People have this misguided romanticism about D2 and they're unfairly holding it up on a pedestal in compare to D3. They need to stop and really remember the problems we had.
No offline mode? GREAT!
Denying hackers the full client protects the program from manipulation. They learn to manipulate via offline full-client and take that knowledge directly to the online client, raping it of it's integrity. I for one am glad as hell that dupes and hacks will be held in check, even if it means I cannot play offline.
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I think people are making a mistake with MF so early on. Concentrate on survivabilty and take what falls. Some of my greatest finds in my D2 career....I didn't even have MF...ZERO!
People need to understand the math here. In D2, 300% MF only increased your elite drops by a VERY marginal amount. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but it was something like...between 300% MF and 1000% MF, your chance of an elite drop went up by only 1 in 500.
People....take the MF off until you can cruise Hell mode with impunity. Than start switching in some MF gear.
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Remember D2 and high runes? I often wonder....how many zod runes were left on the ground throughout the history of the game? I have actually walked up on loot that dropped from myself or others and found Lo, Ist and Mal runes just laying there among the garbage.
I always wondered why HR's weren't brightly colored, considering their worth.
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Normal is like a tutorial. You can enter with a character you know nothing about, skills you know nothing about, and by the time you're on NM you should have a grasp of things and be ready for a challenge.
I would assume most people that struggle on norm are Diablo franchise rookies. Most of us that are familiar with the franchises template shouldn't have many issues through the first phase.
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It's best for us players in the long run that these issues get addressed so that we don't get roped into cyclic and nauseatingly repetative runs for years to come....i.e. Pindle, Shenk, Mephisto...rinse repeat for 6 years.
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No, I would not be happy. But I cannot see myself putting any effort into complaining about it to strangers via a fan forum.
What bugs me about much of the complaining is the rhetoric like "fanboy" and other insults being fired at people that love the game, as if these dissatisfied players wish to convince people that they really shouldn't like the game.
If you like it, you like it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. If I didn't like the game, I wouldn't be here right now. Maybe it's just me, but I got better things to do than to frequent a fansite of a game I am displeased with.
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People come here to learn about the game, discuss the game and enjoy the excitement of a release many of us waited for over a half-decade to play. Yet we have to wade through the garbage of thread after thread of people that;
1) Aren't fans of the franchise/Aren't familiar with the Diablo template
2) Are immature
3) Are impatient
4) Are trolls
I don't like Call Of Duty. I thought it sucked. Did I join a CoD fan forum and troll it to death with complaints? No. I wouldn't frequent a website with the word (GAME I HATE) combined with the word "fan". If they don't like it, go away, please. Criticism is one thing, we all have that and it can be constructive. But the immature ranting about Blizzard being a scrupulous greedy corporation and this game sucking.......go away.
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+1 ....
Regardless of anything else, it's always easier with support.
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Yes but...how would one prove they cleared inferno without passing up mobs, using farm exploits or taking handouts from friends? Congrats to Method and Krip as well.....the Danish fellow accomplished something quite awesome....grats to them all.
Whats important is that these "pros" streaming live exploits essentially makes them unofficial quality control agents for Blizzard. Which is great for the players. Blizzard addressed a chest farm exploit they were broadcasting within a few hours. Keep broadcasting your exploits, please, so that they may be removed.
Whats really important, as a player, is how YOU accomplish goals in the game.
0
People just don't know this game yet, but for whatever reason, they assume they do after only four days. I'm hearing talk that melee is impossible in Inferno. Some perspective; I remember many years ago taking my Zealot to hell, solo, and getting to the arcane sanctuary.
Well....at first, when I was ignorant of the game I didn't know how to mitigate mobs of physical-immunes set on a narrow, impassable pathway. It was "impossible". After time, I learned how to deal with it solo (adding elemental dmg to attacks etc). Such will occur over time with D3. People think its impossible...they learn it's not....