Say, let all mobs on any difficulty have 15% more damage and 25% more health. And you get only half of healing.
Surely, the softcore players won't complain - or will they? - about their mode being easier? And this will make hardcore more challenging. As it is right now, seasons' fresh start is the only thing there to remind you that you're not god-mode outside 35+ grifts
That's what POE's tempest (HC) league is like. It's more difficult. Monsters can do more damage, have more hp, have resists to certain types of damage, their mod system is very detailed. So it just makes playing HC a lot more fulfilling, because you look at the SC guys and think, "I did everything you did on a higher difficulty."
D3, from all of the responses I got, is not like that. HC, just means if you die you lose your toon. But difficulty wise there is no difference. I just asked because I thought I was missing something.
I just finished lvling a monk in Seasons HC to 70 and got to 84 paragon. Now I am going to switch to SC, and probably just play in SC. It's the same difficulty. Thanks to all for their input, and helping me make this decision.
I don't think you should get any benefits from playing HC. I play hardcore because I want more challenging gameplay. Additional buffs and bonuses take that away, it becomes more like "you die forever, but everything is cheaper and easier - mode"
It's (HC) not easier, but HARDER in POE than SC. As I mentioned in tempest (HC) you have monsters that are getting buffed, so more dmg or faster attacks, as well as debuffs on the ground for you, such as poison aoe dmg...etc. So it becomes more like "stronger monsters. weaker player. you die forever." HC being cheaper is only due to players dying because of the difficulty, not because GGG made any design changes to make the economy any different.
HC comes with it's own built in end game, exclusive to that mode. Death. ...or....avoiding death. Permanent death. Your character isn't rolling over to SC like in PoE, this is real HC.
HC has rewarded me endlessly. It saved D3 for me when the game was at it's lowest points early on. Now that D3 is a legit top-shelf ARPG (IMO), I am bound to HC mode. I simply couldn't enjoy the game without it.
Objectively speaking; HC adds an aspect to the game that it currently doesn't have outside of HC. It makes it possible for you to lose. It's a game, you should be able to lose. There is no PvP, so if you want to risk loss, hardcore is for you.
This is what I am asking. What is that HC only built in end game? Could you give me an example?
the rush u get when u know your is going to die character is enough. but I wouldn't mind if they gave us a bonus on paragon farming.
Yes, I agree there is a rush, but the rush becomes moot since there is so much botting and cheating going on. If the ladders/rankings were legitimate, then I could see this as a viable answer.
I don't think anyone will be able to come up with an answer, because I couldn't. So I think I will switch to SC from now on in D3. SC gets to higher GRIFT lvls as well, so thats another thing SC players can brag about. HC players....great you are top 10 in botting, congratulations.
With the new season of D3 starting tomorrow, I began putting some thought into what to play. As I have mostly played HC in ARPGs, even in D3, though I don't play D3 as much as other games, I was going to click on "Seasonal HC" just out of habit. However, after giving it some more thought I couldn't understand what the benefit behind playing HC is.
First of all, with the number of bots and some hacks/cheats which usually get found early in the season and then possibly nerfed. So the ladders/rankings in D3 don't mean much.
Secondly, there is no in-game benefit to playing HC. For example, an ARPG I play more than D3 is Path of Exile. There are several benefits or difference between their Seasonal HC and SC:
1) The game play in HC and SC are completely different. Currently, SC is "Warbands" and HC is "Tempest". In Warbands you have unique monster/boss types of monsters spawn which depending on the specific map or area drop certain items. In Tempest, there are certain "weather" effects that spawn that either buff you and the monsters or debuff. Both fo these changes in HC/SC are displayed on the map, so you can decide where to farm.
2) The items/currencies in HC are cheaper. There are two reasons for this, one is that when players die in HC, they lose everything in that league and thus the HC league loses the currencies. So because there isn't enough currencies in the HC leagues the prices stay relatively low compared to SC.
3) Furthermore in HC (tempest) the map buffs provide a 10% increase in the currencies/items dropped. So you have a higher chance of getting more/better items, and accumulating more currencies to buy whatever you are looking for.
So as you can see in POE not only is the game play between HC/SC is different, there is a real advantage to playing HC. POE says, hey if you take the risk of playing in HC and possibly losing everything, we will reward you with more benefits. Which makes sense to me, and which is why I play HC in POE. However, in D3, I don't understand why I was playing HC. I think it was just out of habit and will probably switch to SC tomorrow.
Some people may respond with something along the lines of "more of an accomplishment", but with the ladders/rankings not meaning much, I don't find that to be an appropriate answer. If the rankings were legitimate, then I could totally see that point, as being higher on the ladders would actually mean something.
Any ways, this wasn't a POE v D3 thread. I just think in POE there is a benefit to palying HC and the ladders mean more than they do in D3. So if anyone has an objective reason behind why they play HC versus SC, I would love to hear it. Just not "....because it makes me feel good"
Allow me to introduce myself. They call me HOV. H to the O V. Straight out the...
I just hit 70 on my Wizard. Took everything in my bank from my WD and used it to equip my Wiz. I have noticed that Wiz build are very gear specific. There is a tank build I want to run but it requires a specific necklace. So I was hoping someone here could take a look at my gear and recommend a build for me as well as how to respec my gear. I don't know much about Wiz, but I would like something to begin farming with.
Alright, thanks for all of the good info. However, I am still unclear about two things. One, can I clear the modes solo? What I mean is, does the game scale? So if I am in Normal or Hell mode and I am solo, are the enemies weaker, or just as strong as if I were playing with 4 players?
I am not a hardcore player or anything. At max, I would play maybe 2-3 hours during the work week, and maybe 3-5 hours during the weekend; that is on the higher end. I was apprehensive because I thought I would need to find some hardcore guild just to play. If I can play at least normal mode solo, and experience the story, or lore, and take my time just checking things out, that's good enough for me. I just don't want 3-players screaming at me to hurry up because they want to be he first player to 100 or something.
I have never played a Diablo game, and now recently reading the story line it is very interesting. At first I thought it was very cheesy. Angels versus demons...again? However, after reading some more, I found that wasn't the current story line a all. So I am looking forward to just learning what happens at the end.
My other question regarding class, was just for fun factor. I really do not care which class does the most damage or anything. I was just wondering if anyone had input regarding how fun each class is. In the end that's all I care for. You had a good point about trying out all classes, and I think over time, I will do that. Just try out various classes.
And regarding my name, JizzLobster, it's just comical and not really intended to be sexual. As a working professional who spends 90-hours a week at the office, it gets tiresome always having to be politically correct and watching your mouth. That's what I enjoy about games the most, I can be myself without worry. After all it is the internet. Thanks for all the good input.
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That's what POE's tempest (HC) league is like. It's more difficult. Monsters can do more damage, have more hp, have resists to certain types of damage, their mod system is very detailed. So it just makes playing HC a lot more fulfilling, because you look at the SC guys and think, "I did everything you did on a higher difficulty."
D3, from all of the responses I got, is not like that. HC, just means if you die you lose your toon. But difficulty wise there is no difference. I just asked because I thought I was missing something.
I just finished lvling a monk in Seasons HC to 70 and got to 84 paragon. Now I am going to switch to SC, and probably just play in SC. It's the same difficulty. Thanks to all for their input, and helping me make this decision.
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This isn't a D3 v POE thread. I just chose POE as an example, because they are a successful ARPG that does things in contrast to D3.
Thanks.
This is what I am asking. What is that HC only built in end game? Could you give me an example?
Yes, I agree there is a rush, but the rush becomes moot since there is so much botting and cheating going on. If the ladders/rankings were legitimate, then I could see this as a viable answer.
I don't think anyone will be able to come up with an answer, because I couldn't. So I think I will switch to SC from now on in D3. SC gets to higher GRIFT lvls as well, so thats another thing SC players can brag about. HC players....great you are top 10 in botting, congratulations.
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Hi,
With the new season of D3 starting tomorrow, I began putting some thought into what to play. As I have mostly played HC in ARPGs, even in D3, though I don't play D3 as much as other games, I was going to click on "Seasonal HC" just out of habit. However, after giving it some more thought I couldn't understand what the benefit behind playing HC is.
First of all, with the number of bots and some hacks/cheats which usually get found early in the season and then possibly nerfed. So the ladders/rankings in D3 don't mean much.
Secondly, there is no in-game benefit to playing HC. For example, an ARPG I play more than D3 is Path of Exile. There are several benefits or difference between their Seasonal HC and SC:
1) The game play in HC and SC are completely different. Currently, SC is "Warbands" and HC is "Tempest". In Warbands you have unique monster/boss types of monsters spawn which depending on the specific map or area drop certain items. In Tempest, there are certain "weather" effects that spawn that either buff you and the monsters or debuff. Both fo these changes in HC/SC are displayed on the map, so you can decide where to farm.
2) The items/currencies in HC are cheaper. There are two reasons for this, one is that when players die in HC, they lose everything in that league and thus the HC league loses the currencies. So because there isn't enough currencies in the HC leagues the prices stay relatively low compared to SC.
3) Furthermore in HC (tempest) the map buffs provide a 10% increase in the currencies/items dropped. So you have a higher chance of getting more/better items, and accumulating more currencies to buy whatever you are looking for.
So as you can see in POE not only is the game play between HC/SC is different, there is a real advantage to playing HC. POE says, hey if you take the risk of playing in HC and possibly losing everything, we will reward you with more benefits. Which makes sense to me, and which is why I play HC in POE. However, in D3, I don't understand why I was playing HC. I think it was just out of habit and will probably switch to SC tomorrow.
Some people may respond with something along the lines of "more of an accomplishment", but with the ladders/rankings not meaning much, I don't find that to be an appropriate answer. If the rankings were legitimate, then I could totally see that point, as being higher on the ladders would actually mean something.
Any ways, this wasn't a POE v D3 thread. I just think in POE there is a benefit to palying HC and the ladders mean more than they do in D3. So if anyone has an objective reason behind why they play HC versus SC, I would love to hear it. Just not "....because it makes me feel good"
Thanks.
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Allow me to introduce myself. They call me HOV. H to the O V. Straight out the...
I just hit 70 on my Wizard. Took everything in my bank from my WD and used it to equip my Wiz. I have noticed that Wiz build are very gear specific. There is a tank build I want to run but it requires a specific necklace. So I was hoping someone here could take a look at my gear and recommend a build for me as well as how to respec my gear. I don't know much about Wiz, but I would like something to begin farming with.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GodMode-1578/hero/36974267 - disregard the skills as I am just messing around.
1) Which build do you recommend with that gear?
2) How should I respec my armor?
THANKS!
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I am not a hardcore player or anything. At max, I would play maybe 2-3 hours during the work week, and maybe 3-5 hours during the weekend; that is on the higher end. I was apprehensive because I thought I would need to find some hardcore guild just to play. If I can play at least normal mode solo, and experience the story, or lore, and take my time just checking things out, that's good enough for me. I just don't want 3-players screaming at me to hurry up because they want to be he first player to 100 or something.
I have never played a Diablo game, and now recently reading the story line it is very interesting. At first I thought it was very cheesy. Angels versus demons...again? However, after reading some more, I found that wasn't the current story line a all. So I am looking forward to just learning what happens at the end.
My other question regarding class, was just for fun factor. I really do not care which class does the most damage or anything. I was just wondering if anyone had input regarding how fun each class is. In the end that's all I care for. You had a good point about trying out all classes, and I think over time, I will do that. Just try out various classes.
And regarding my name, JizzLobster, it's just comical and not really intended to be sexual. As a working professional who spends 90-hours a week at the office, it gets tiresome always having to be politically correct and watching your mouth. That's what I enjoy about games the most, I can be myself without worry. After all it is the internet. Thanks for all the good input.
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2) Anyone who played Witch Doctor in BETA, how is it? I would like to play Witch Doctor or Wizard, but leaning towards Witch Doctor.
3) Is the point of D3 to beat the campaign or just grind for weapons?