Quote from Lushy
Im with Jackoo on this one. D2 shits all over D3. At least they didn't Nerf every class and make them harder and harder every 2 months so people have to try change their game style all the time. Leave Jackoo be.
Funny how everyone is slandering Jackoo for having an opinion when it takes more guts to voice one. Those who have a go at someone for having a voice are lower then maggots in MY OPINION. Get it. Got it. Good now F@%k OFF
He doesn't have an opinion. He is incapable of managing game mechanics at Inferno difficulty, and wants to blame the game and the RMAH on it.
You people who revere D2 and want to put it on a pedestal are half the issue with these forums, and how it represents the game. It isn't bad, it just isn't *EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT*. Which was a straight D2 clone, with everything D2 had, but newer GFX and a different story.
D2 was a decent game. Besides being easy as hell, having a skill/talent system that was irrelevant because any skills with any gear allowed you to progress. And by that, it was "more customizable" - your skills choices *DID NOT MATTER*. They weren't choices, it was a glorified "whack-a-mole" screen than made pretty changes to what your character looked like in combat. Because everyone looked the same once they got the BiS gear everyone was duping out.
OP - the stats you list for Act 2 are crap. You have an account here, you posted your river of tears - but you couldn't be bothered researching minimum stats needed to move forward. Because you see a Barb *with* enough (more than enough) gear, *he* must be broken, not you - because, of course, your gaming prowess is legendary.
Your stats aren't enough. I can farm Act 1 just fine, and Act 2 *was* easier yesterday. I have 38K HP/11.5K DPS/450 RA and was still struggling. The IAS nerf hurt a bit (lost 1.5K DPS), *BUT* I don't blame the game for my inability to advance. I know this is a gear game, and I don't have it. I Don't go crying to Blizzard telling them change the game, because I am so great it can't be me.
As for Lushy, savior of the downtrodden - on the Internet, everyone has the balls to voice an opinion. Anonymity requires *ZERO* bravery. You know what requires bravery? Acknowledging that your failures are *YOUR* failures, instead of hunting down any and every scapegoat you can find, because your ego is far to fragile to accept you just aren't perfect.
D2 only shit's on something because it is covered in it. It was a good game, and had some good systems. D3 has the potential to match that, while avoiding many of the pitfalls and abuse/hack/exploits D2 suffered from, which ultimately ruined it for many. For folks like you, who don't want a challenge, just a glorified loot pinata that even the OP's referenced 10 y/o's would get bored of, go back to it. Get it? Got it? Go back to pre-school, little kid.
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Cyeron - technically correct, yes. The OP does illuminate a point many *VOCAL* players have on *MANY GAME FORUMS* (note: this number is *NOT* a significant sampling of the players base, and many players are just as vocal in support of them game. IT is common knowledge that more people complain than praise, however, so the greater number of negative voices comes as no shock for anybody with more than a junior college education).
Repetition is boring. Repetition in D2 was boring too. For every person that played D2 as intended, at least one was either using hacks or exploits or dupes, or benefiting from them by using items from people who did. Saying a game is great because you can bypass significant portions of game mechanics is an error in logic too. Likewise with D3. You use class changes as the qualification for the games weakness of repetition driving people away. I see peoples need to find ways to cheese their way through hard games driving them away as stuff gets fixed. See the difference?
Your deeper issue, simply put, is as follows -
(1) Repetition is boring - people who hate this will hate D3, will have hated D2, or have grown out of this type game in between releases.
(2) People used to D2's difficulty and easy of acquiring gear will hate repetition in D3, because they never really had to experience it in D2.
People who do not like grind games will be bored. People who thought D2 was perfect will be bored or unhappy. People who like the game aren't being driven away by grinding/repetition - that is why they play it. Some of them are driven away by balance, difficulty, patches, etc. Things that are not the cornerstone of Diablo games.
And those people who are not having fun should stop playing. Class/game changes may be the straw that broke the camels back for those players, but those people weren't having fun regardless, per your statement above. It is weak reasoning to try and link 2 unrelated issues to support your (or another) argument.
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Thats the big player for Diablo 3 bots, hitting them hits the biggest portion of the botters in Diablo 3 right now, Blizzard pulling out the big guns.
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Really?
REALLY?
Even though I have clearly stated that I in fact DO, and HAVE played Diablo 2 PvP over the thousands of hours logged into that game? (I don't know why you have such a hard time differentiating "I found better PvP games" from "I never played D2 PvP" ?)
I cannot communicate with someone who does not even grasp the basic concept of reading.
Bottom line, PvP in Diablo 2 was considered casual at best, received FAR more complaints then praise (as evidenced by the patch history concerning PvP directly), and will not, in any way shape or form be making its way into Diablo 3. (no open duels)
The only person beating a dead equine here is you.
(Still waiting for you to show me a single organized cash tourney for D2 PvP, the ONLY Blizzard game(s) (D1/D2) ever made to NOT have several said tourney's for its PvP play....) I know you think linking a couple of small fry online friendly tournaments is the same as a massive organized event, but the cold hard reality is, it isnt, at all.
For easy reference; this is what "Huge PvP" competitions look like:
http://evo.shoryuken.com/
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/home
You say things like "proven wrong", where exactly? Go ahead, so me a single one thing you have "proven me wrong" in, I'll wait. (also, fun fact, in this very thread, the very thing you accuse me of, "blatant insults" you have done 3x more then anyone else in this thread, your astonishing hypocrisy is out for all to see. )
http://www.gamespot....2600303/?page=1
http://ca.ign.com/ar.../08/diablo-ii-2
Notice how neither even MENTION PvP? Literally, not even mentioned, in a review, from multiple sources, roflol.
The same sites reviews on SC1, notice the amount of the review focused on PvP;
http://www.gamespot....review-2533189/
http://ca.ign.com/ar.../03/starcraft-2
Im wondering if at some point you will come to the realization that Diablo 2's PvP was hardly even considered a "feature" of the game at the time. It was not even considered worth mentioning in the games reviews.
The things you are lauding about Diablo 2's PvP are the same things that Blizzard is looking to expand upon in its PvP system for D3, teams, arenas, rules, etc. (the very same things people enforced to make Diablo 2's PvP less messy and random) AKA, they are looking to make ACTUAL PvP, instead of just throwing out a "hostile" button and hoping for the best. (exactly what happened in D2)
But let me guess, that's too "Corporate" and "Mainstream" right? (the irony of you saying that about Diablo 3 and NOT Diablo 2 is hilarious BTW, Diablo 2 is considered a massive mainstream success.)
inb4 your inevitable post not addressing anything I have said, random insults, and possibly a new youtube video.
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Get out of here with your common sense and logic.
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lol, arena in WoW...
But SC2 is a different beast, and one I would agree is very skill based.
Has he played SC2 at all in the last year?
Also, im surprised you can talk/type, with Athenes balls stuffed in your mouth like that.
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ORLY?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5740846683
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Diablo-3-Cheaters-Banned-By-Thousands-43512.html
http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/13/diablo-iii-bans-strike-several-thousand-cheaters/
Any other nuggets of stupid you want to drop on us?
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Last time I checked, David wanted to make a claymation turn based game, and needed Morhime and Co. to make it into the games they were.
Wilson worked on DOW and COH before D3, both games were fantastic successes.
David without Blizz backing made one of the biggest flops in gaming history (as in, an ACTUAL flop, not an imagined flop, it actually closed his studio down it flopped so bad.)
Again, so Jay spouted off a bit to much, get a life, get over it.
He is a GAME DEVELOPER, not a politician, not a public figure, just a dude who makes games.
Get your head on straight.
I could name a dozen big name producers/developers/etc that have a faaaaaaaaaaar longer list of "unprofessional" statements then what Jay has said.
Yet those are tiny little blips on the radar, because Blizzard fans are a writhing mass of garbage, and cling to anything they can hound on endlessly, the lack of any sort of glimmering hope of a life is all but snuffed by these mongrels.
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M rated game.
Average age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Case in point;
Lets take average Diablo 3 forum troll #45687 as an example.
Lets grab a weeks worth his of comments from the site.
Then show them publicly, to their family, their co workers, etc.
What do you think the reaction would be?
Yeah man, so Jay got pissed at his team getting slammed, thats NOTHING compared to the back and forth mudslinging several "un-named" companies practice on a weekly basis.
Its just something for the meme obsessed community to rant and rave about for weeks on end, they desperately cling to anything new to attempt (and fail) to spawn some form of wit.
I have literally lost respect for gamers as a whole due to the sheer quantity of morons that heaves and pupates under the thick and dank blanket of the inter-webs.
But hey, maybe its just me, amirite?
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That's RICH coming from this horribly rude, painfully childish, and pathetically immature community.
Really,
Gold star right there.
Should we dredge up people from this community's online comments and judge them the same way?
Because THAT would be far, FAR worse, don't ya think?