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Quote from ecutruin

Honestly, you're deluding yourself if you think that'll happen with the way Diablo 3 mechanics work. With all the AoE effects and such available, you could lose a match to a few well placed spells. PvP in Diablo 3 isn't going to be some great skill challenge. You will die to other players..

Quote from sacridoc

Pretty sure this is how this stuff works, but correct me if I'm wrong about something...

1) Dire Bats is a nuke, not a channeled spell I believe.

2) Dots / channeled spells work off fixed intervals. In general, it's been said that the interval is 0.5sec, but Rapid Fire for example has much faster intervals. These intervals don't change based on weapon speed.

What they mean in the Blue Post is that if you have a weapon that does 200 damage / 2sec using a 100% skill, if the cycle is 0.5sec, it will do 50 damage every cycle, and take 2sec to do the full damage of the skill. As opposed to if you did 200 damage / 1sec, it would take 1sec to do full damage (over 2 cycles). But in both situations your DPS is what it should be.

And in terms of moving around while firing, a higher attack speed isn't really better unless you're saying that it somehow triggers the casting animation faster, but I wouldn't expect that to save much time really. If you cast a channeled spell for 0.5sec, you'll do the same damage no matter what your attack speed is, as long as the weapon damage is the same. Because 250 damage w/ 2.0 attack speed = 500 damage w/ 1.0 attack speed. And over 0.5sec you'll do 250 damage in both cases.

3) However, the dot / channeled spell damage works off your DPS so the faster the weapon, the more damage you'll do, the more mana you'll spend. The Wizard and Witch Doctor don't have generators typically, so faster weapons probably aren't as good for them because the general idea is that with a faster weapon you spend resource quickly, but you generate it quickly too. This is less true for the Wizard and Witch Doctor.

4) Proc abilities / Life Per Hit is going to have an internal cooldown or some kind of penalty that makes it so abilities like Rapid Fire aren't so powerful.

5) I would expect that pet damage works the same as dots / channeled spells. The pets have a fixed attack interval that cannot be altered, but their damage will increase if you increase your attack speed without losing damage.

6) Basically, it usually doesn't matter much whether your weapon is slow or fast, it's just that fast weapons should work better for proccing stuff and using abilities that don't have cooldowns, like Fetish Sychophants for example. And slow weapons are better for something like Sacrifice.

7) The key in all of this is finding out how the penalties / internal cooldowns work for Life Per Hit and all On-Proc abilities. Only when you do that can you really know what weapon speed is best for your build...

Quote from Khrull777

I was totally turned off on the WD, until I saw an awesome build on this forum.

Then I realized, more than any other class, this one is going to take the most skill and concentration to really use as effectively as possible. The WD has the most cooldown effects out of any class. So to use this class, you really have to know when to use each ability and keep watch over the cool downs. While the other classes are clicking away, you have to manage mana AND multiple cool down effects and know when to use each ability. It's going to be fun balancing it all out.

Quote from Malkishua

Thats just the thing. WHY can't I be a glass cannon Monk? It's quite frustrating. And I know its not a MMO. I played D2 for a long, long time and WoW for quite a while. BECAUSE of that I fear this.

• Attack - Increases damage dealt. Applies to all damage types (physical, elemental) and sources (it affects your pets). 1 Attack == 1% damage.
• Precision - Increases critical strike rate. Unknown formula. Appears to be diminish in effectiveness as your character levels. May vary per class. At level 13, my Wiz has 87 Precision with a 6.16% chance to crit. This translates to each point of precision being worth 0.071~% crit; roughly 14 precision = 1% crit at level 13.
• Defense - Reduces damage taken. Applies to all damage types (physical, elemental) and sources (melee, ranged, dots, etc). Appears to be diminish in effectiveness as your character levels. At level 13, my Wiz has 89 defense, with a 59.38% reduction to all damage. This translates to each point of defense being worth 0.668~% damage reduction; roughly 15 defense = 10% damage reduction at level 13.
• Vitality: This translates directly into Health. Amount of HP per point seems to vary slightly per class.

• Armor - Reduces physical damage taken only. Appears to be diminish in effectiveness as your character levels. At level 13, my Wiz has 145 armor, with 18.24% physical damage reduction. This translates to each point of armor being worth 0.126~% phys DR; roughly 80 armor = 10% phys DR at level 13.
• Resistances - Reduce damage to the respective element by a percentage. I have found no resist gear yet, so I cannot give any values.
• Critical Damage - Crits of all type deal 150% damage baseline. The + % Crit Damage affix increases that percentage.
• Block - Block reduces the damage of a physical melee/ranged attack by a flat value. Blocks are not a complete negation of that hit, as they were in D2.
• Dodge - Dodge completely avoids the attack. It appears to only work on melee/non-spell ranged attacks. There is no dodge animation, it is just a combat roll.

• Highest base damage, so you will hit the hardest
• They appear to have lower weapon spread than faster weapons, ensuring you do big damage more consistently
• Animation times are slower
• Less resource generation (for monk/barb/DH in some cases)
• Less crits/procs

• Innate 15% attack speed bonus
• Weapon have large damage ranges, so if the RNG gods are unkind you may be T_T
• Lots of attacks = lots of crits and procs
• More resource generation
• Remember that with dual wield, the attacks alternate between main and offhand

• Armor boost, obviously
• You can block attacks
• The damage lost here is actually relatively small (in theory). Essentially, you do a bit less DPS than dual wielding (assuming the dual wielding weapons are identical in DPS/stats)
• Median spirit gain between 2H/DW

1 Handers
Mace: 1.20 APS
Spear: 1.20 APS
[Wizard Only] Wand: 1.20 APS
Axe: 1.30 APS
[Monk Only] Fist Weapon: 1.40 APS
Mighty Weapon:[ 1.40 APS
Sword: 1.40 APS
[WD Only] Ceremonial Dagger: 1.50 APS
Dagger: 1.50 APS
[DH Only] Crossbow Pistols: 1.80 APS


2 Handers
Mace: 0.90 APS
Polearm: 0.95 APS
Axe: 1.00 APS
Crossbow: 1.00 APS
[Barb Only] Mighty Weapon: 1.00 APS
[Monk Only] Daibo: 1.10 APS
Sword: 1.10 APS
Staff: 1.20 APS
Bow: 1.40 APS