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Maybe its rose-tinted goggles, but i seem to remember in Diablo 2, in nightmare and Hell difficiculties, dungeons were larger in most cases. Not any new content mind you, just more of the same. Was this actually the case or am I remembering wrong? Has there been any word if this might happen in D3?

Imagine the den of the fallen, still being the same 2 levels, but each level being 2-4 times larger with more rares / champions to find.

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Cheers for the info. It seems strange to me that the mechanic will be such a throw away one. I neither agree nor disagree with the need to reach a certain marker to start a HC character, it just seems so pointless (to me) that it's a meaningless gesture for most. Blizz constantly talk about character immersion and making the game an experience yet they implement a system where thousands of characters will be created with the sole purpose of reaching level 10 and then be deleted.

If Blizzard were worried about comlete newbies to the daiblo series "accidentally" creating a HC character and getting annihilated time and again, why not just create a one time pop up screen when creating your first HC char that introduces the mechanics of the mode and clearly defines the game type? Old school players can easily close the box whilst newbies can be directed to perhaps try leveling up first.

I can almost hear the screams of thousands of level 10 characters being deleted in the first few hours of servers going live

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i'm still having trouble understanding that post; so me only being able to play a few hours a day a few times a week and on weekends if i'm lucky once i hit inferno i'm going to hit a wall unless I throw everything i have into playing this game... so i hit inferno can barly do it get frustrated and move on to something else. Do that with all 5 classes and just wait for expansion? because i hit that "brick wall" but still want to get as best of gear as possible to satisfy my e-penis?

No, the thing was that insane players wanted an awesome increase in difficulty for Inferno, which would've made you hit said brick wall. But now the difficulty will increase gradually. From what I gather.

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What Bashiok was referring to there is that insane players want the difficulty to be incredibly high, but that way the casual-hardcore audience would hit a "brick wall". Having equal difficulty in the entirety of Inferno didn't do much for the insane players, but increasing the difficulty even more would make the casual-hardcore really hit that wall. And so the gradual increase in difficulty was introduced "for the casual-hardcore to not get brick walled" and the insane people out there still getting a challenge later on, as they progress in Inferno.

Of course, you could say that's interpretation. But I'm starting to think everyone is just making too much fuss out of all of this.

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It was nerfed to allow access and progression to more players.
That wording is crystal clear, and there is ZERO room for interpretation.

You're right. There really is ZERO room for interpretation from this:

"Sorry, to clarify, the beginning of Inferno is not any easier than it was before. We've only made Inferno harder."

The only thing is - that is completely destroying your point, eh?

Npt really. Its just proof that hey made a mistake. The two statements are completely contradictory.

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I've noticed that you seem to click individualy for each movement or attack. I don't have DIII beta so i don't know if it was changed, but in DII you could just click and hold to move and your charecter would follow the cursor. You could also click and hold to attack and the atack would repeat untill your target was dead or you were out of resources.

The repeat does work for attack, I did not know about the click-hold to move! I will test this next time i play! Thanks!

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You are a noob that has already finished the beta and twinks his character ? :/

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People are yelling that they nerfed Inferno...wheres the nerf? if anything they buffed it... they never said Act1 was gonna be easier...If anything Act 1 is prolly still lvl 61 mobs, and they get HARDER in later acts... So its actually better than the flat level. I only see this as a good thing.

We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.

Where's the buff? They're saying that everything was brutally hard(as Act II and Act IV is now) and that felt wrong, meaning they nerfed it.

The reason people keep saying it is a buff is that Bashiok said it felt wrong for Act 4 boss to be the same difficulty as Act 1 boss. Then he said that line people love to quote from above. We cannot know for certain which way they tweaked it.

Option 1: Everything was a 10 and they nerfed Acts 1, 2, 3 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 10 now.
Option 2: Everything was a 10 and they buffed Acts 2, 3, 4 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 14 now.

I don't see anything that proves which of those options has occurred, or if some other option was chosen. All we truly know is that there is a difficulty ramp from 1-4 currently. Base and end values of difficulty relative to before are completely unknown to US.

Because you are blinded by bias.
Its obviously the first option.

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People are yelling that they nerfed Inferno...wheres the nerf? if anything they buffed it... they never said Act1 was gonna be easier...If anything Act 1 is prolly still lvl 61 mobs, and they get HARDER in later acts... So its actually better than the flat level. I only see this as a good thing.

We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.

Where's the buff? They're saying that everything was brutally hard(as Act II and Act IV is now) and that felt wrong, meaning they nerfed it.

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The new system is ofcourse more casual friendly since it DECREASED the difficulty of Inferno, probably by alot.
We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.

So they aren't more difficult.

And I did address the idea that you will attain loot while going through Inferno, even if you don't stay to farm.
Yes, you will get gear so the later Acts will most likely be easier than the first one. BUT since you didn't stay to farm you will not "outgear" the content, not even closely, so it does not matter at all. For a player who just wants to enjoy farming and having fun in a difficult game, I couldn't care the slightest bit that Diablo will be a tiny bit easier than some boss in an earlier act, you had 3 difficulties to enjoy that, instead you would have been able to enjoy a whole difficulty being hard!

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Inferno isn't as much about progressing(if it is at all) as it is about farming, inferno was intended to give the players who like farming a consistent challenge.

I wouldn't spend my first week in inferno farming Act 1, since Act 2 would be as difficult I would move on, because where's the fun in farming the same place over and over (as we will be now).
Since I didn't farm Act 1 for weeks Act 2 won't be super easy(im not saying it will be super easy, but you get the point), instead it will as challenging as any part of Inferno, great!

The only problem was that there was a brick wall, but that brick wall is not bad at all and we who could climb it could then spend our time on a whole difficulty having fun, instead we are forced to spend all our time on the last two acts

SOOO AWESSSSS.... no wait its not.

You casuals have 3 difficulties to enjoy your game, give us 1 atleast, please

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Loot drops can finally be equal across all 4 acts!!! Are you happy? Let's think about it...

Assuming Blizzard makes us start in Act 1 without access to the later Acts initially, most of us will likely start with farming Act 1. You spend a few days/weeks farming Act 1 and you get some sweet loot. Now you move on to Act 2 with your upgraded loot, but the game isn't any harder. Because you're so excited to be in Act 2 you don't think too much of it so you go about your farming and by chance, find some even better loot! Alright! Now we're gearing up and we're ready for Acts 3 and 4 which are now going to be easier than the previous two Acts because of all of our sweet loot.

THIS IS SOOO AWESSSS... wait a minute, this sucks.

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I dont quite understand how does diminishing returns work in diablo.
What does that mean?

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WoW.... Very disappointing.

What was wrong with casuals hitting a brick wall in Inferno? Can we even call them Casual players anymore once they've gotten to the point of playing inferno?

Why the decrease in difficulty to hand old people at teh start. Inferno was supposed to be farm where you want and it's all the same difficulty.

Sigh.