Tf's proc doesn't hit that hard and it also doesn't proc nearly enough on a ranged class as say vs a barb. My votes the more damage as abilities scale off weapon damage.
You want roughly 20% cdr with earthquake build and the more the merrier.
Warcry with charge is a good sub for 50 fury inbetween hota smashing.
Are you absolutely sure Cindercoat doesn't work with HoTA at the moment? I just tested it and it seems to work fine.
same. found a cindercoat 2 days ago and tried it - pretty much needed to spam hammers in btw my leaps with 30% cdr. and i only rolled 23% resource cost reduction on my cindercoat
edit: however I can't use this combo yet... i die too fast. I need to find might of earth gloves so I can use augilds helm + bracers to maintain the 3 set bonus that i would otherwise be losing with cindercoat.
Using ww on t6 is like gimping yourself on 1 foot. Hota is by far the most superior build atm in terms of damage and I've been clearing t6 for weeks. WW is so bad and when blizzard actually fixes it than I can go fulltime raekor.
It's very good if you're interested in sheet DPS for e-peen, it's far from being godlike though. You want cooldown reduction on a "godlike" Wand of Woh.
Hello there Motormouse I just switched over too lightning again from fire. Atm I run lightning with 71% lightning dmg and 30% elite dmg and full raekor I have Odyn son with 20% lightning dmg - 748 str and 37% proc chance. and a decent thunderfury. I haven't found SoH yet. But I find lightning very fun with raekor. but I don't know if I should change whirlwind to Frenzy -> Smite. Cause I barely use Whirlwind. And I only use HotA for most of the time. here is my profilehttp://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Korruz-2527/hero/41605213
That is the exact build im thinking of swapping to. Lets hope they make ww good with the next patch and we can drop hota ^-^
800 AR is just a random number. It gradually takes more and more AR for 1% less total damage, a strong note is to realize that the damage reduction relative to the damage you take doesn't change much. Seems like the low AR recommendation and the lack of warcry impunity that the guide is mostly focused on the lower torments.
I'm not a big fan of whirlwind prefer Hota and just use furious charge stamina when undergeared for fury. It works with a lightning build but not sure it's the best when starting out fresh on a barb.
WW is used to move through mobs, if you get stuck in aoe you will die and ww is quite good in low torments. The base guideline most people will tell you to aim for is 800 ar and I agree with that 600-800. Impunity is alright but even on t6 I don't use it, I prefer charge for that 50 fury. Like I said when survival becomes a problem its your job to figure out a way to live.
Everyday I see posts from barbs asking what they need to do to to become a great barb or at-least improve their barb. There is from what I have seen multiple threads in specific to one build and it doesn't cover everything.
Lets start with the basics and talk about the strongest abilities right now regardless of items.
These are BASIC guidelines. This build could work for the most basic of gear and not completely starve you of your fury. Things could easily be altered to preference and towards ones gear/elemental damage. This build could work for a starter barb who REALLY lacks gear and is trying to push torment 1 and as you start getting set bonuses it becomes easier and easier. A strong thing to realize as a lower tiered barb you may even need to keep bloodthirst and add superstition to help with survivability and its even strong in higher torments.
A strong note is to realize the soft cap for all resist is 800 and after that it loses its potency. This is just a baseline alot of players are going by and ive experimented with it myself and I feel 800 is a nice spot to be in, 600-800. Warcry with impunity could be a great way to help you increase your ar.
If fury becomes a problem you may want to put unforgiving in your build to help a bit.
Below is an example of taking out bloodthirst and warcry if survivability isn't a problem. You could also eliminate ww completely and keep warcry as a generator/defensive.
If you wanted to say focus towards a fire build or physical build than the logical thing to do is eliminate ww completely as its weak and it eats fury. Physical you could lean towards a builder toss build or rend build. As fire you could lean towards a hota build with smash. You guys need to look at the gear you are wearing and see what benefits YOU the most until you can start getting upgrades and start moving towards that dream goal of gear.
Yet another very strong fury generator/dumper alternative build.
Understanding item stats
A lot of people dont really understand how item stats work and they base their dps off of sheet dps. This time has come to an end and its all about crit damage/crit chance and elemental damage.
See the 1.4% damage increase of a trifecta amulet that doesn't take into consideration of the 17% lightning damage?
How do we see the actual difference with no meter? www.diabloprogress.com is by far the easiest way to tell by logging out and comparing.
WOW what a difference, as you can see sheet dps is not everything. All you have to do is go to diablo progress and alter your gear than log out and update and you can see the difference on paper with an accurate calculator. This is by far the easiest method I can suggest to you guys.
So to me Raekor's is my favorite set out of all 3. I have every set on my barb with decent rolls all around and honestly I just love the build and how fun it is to pull mobs around and smash them with hammer. You can go fire or lightning or even physical with this set as it is an amazing fury generator. For me I am lightning and this is my build.
I haven't experimented with it, but I am going to try and drop ww for Battle Rage Bloodshed. My only concern is sometimes furious charge bugs out and you can easily die in high torment heres a video of me doing t6 with the set
Same as any, +elemental damage items and any good weapons.
Okay guys so IK is atm the weakest set of the three, but its still do-able at t5. To me IK is more for a generator than the damage your ancients do, we are not witch doctors. They generate fury incredibly fast letting you use a dumper like hota quite efficiently and this set is easily a gateway to t3-5. Again you have to pick skills to your off pieces whether its lightning or fire or physical, so again you would use hota smash over the lightning rune. If you were physical, again you could use bouldertoss with ancient spear as your dumper instead of hota. Down below is the exact build I used to farm t3-4 until I got my eq/raekor sets.
Any other types of rares that have +elemental damage.
So I am pretty sure the most Mainstream build for barbs does not really require an introduction lol. This build is bananas and you have to be bananas to not really like it. Huge damage and its fun to leap around like a freak.
The earthquake build is pretty straight forward and you can swap out ruthless for weapon master if your heart really desired.
Again guys I need to stress to you that build diversity is based off your current gear and not looking at the mainstream cookie cutter builds you see on streams. You have to progress at your level and with what you have in your inventory, which means make smart decisions with your runes and go a strong route.
If you are just starting out a barb as a secondary character than you could easily farm the mats to make to aughilds which is a great set overall even on ones main. 15% elite damage is amazing if you dont have an soj which we'll talk about down below.
Id like to make a strong mention of these rings for the power of +elite damage. I think getting 45% elite damage off rings is BiS and it should be any builds goal to run these rings and not for the "op damage reduction"
If I have missed something or you guys feel something needs to be added feel free to request me to add it.
can you re-log in so I can see the gear you're wearing with the raekor set on the armory page
re-logged for you.
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Lol I stood in a lazer for a second and THAT is what happens when you dont have your julia's equipped. Someones mad because hes clearing t1 while others like myself are clearing t6.
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Cindercoat doesn't work right now with hota.
You want roughly 20% cdr with earthquake build and the more the merrier.
Warcry with charge is a good sub for 50 fury inbetween hota smashing.
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Everyday I see posts from barbs asking what they need to do to to become a great barb or at-least improve their barb. There is from what I have seen multiple threads in specific to one build and it doesn't cover everything.
Lets start with the basics and talk about the strongest abilities right now regardless of items.
These are BASIC guidelines. This build could work for the most basic of gear and not completely starve you of your fury. Things could easily be altered to preference and towards ones gear/elemental damage. This build could work for a starter barb who REALLY lacks gear and is trying to push torment 1 and as you start getting set bonuses it becomes easier and easier. A strong thing to realize as a lower tiered barb you may even need to keep bloodthirst and add superstition to help with survivability and its even strong in higher torments.
A strong note is to realize the soft cap for all resist is 800 and after that it loses its potency. This is just a baseline alot of players are going by and ive experimented with it myself and I feel 800 is a nice spot to be in, 600-800. Warcry with impunity could be a great way to help you increase your ar.
If fury becomes a problem you may want to put unforgiving in your build to help a bit.
Below is an example of taking out bloodthirst and warcry if survivability isn't a problem. You could also eliminate ww completely and keep warcry as a generator/defensive.
If you wanted to say focus towards a fire build or physical build than the logical thing to do is eliminate ww completely as its weak and it eats fury. Physical you could lean towards a builder toss build or rend build. As fire you could lean towards a hota build with smash. You guys need to look at the gear you are wearing and see what benefits YOU the most until you can start getting upgrades and start moving towards that dream goal of gear.
Yet another very strong fury generator/dumper alternative build.
Understanding item stats
A lot of people dont really understand how item stats work and they base their dps off of sheet dps. This time has come to an end and its all about crit damage/crit chance and elemental damage.
See the 1.4% damage increase of a trifecta amulet that doesn't take into consideration of the 17% lightning damage?
How do we see the actual difference with no meter? www.diabloprogress.com is by far the easiest way to tell by logging out and comparing.
Example with 17% amulet
Example with julia's trifecta amulet
The difference is as follows:
-115,903 Elemental dps
-168,058 Elemental elite dps
WOW what a difference, as you can see sheet dps is not everything. All you have to do is go to diablo progress and alter your gear than log out and update and you can see the difference on paper with an accurate calculator. This is by far the easiest method I can suggest to you guys.
Sets
The Legacy Of Raekor
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-breeches
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-burden
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-heart
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-striders
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-will
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-wraps
Items for the build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/reapers-wraps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/strongarm-bracers
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-burning-axe-of-sankis
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/devastator
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/unity
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/haunt-of-vaxo
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rakoffs-glass-of-life
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/thunderfury-blessed-blade-of-the-windseeker
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/shard-of-hate
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/sun-keeper
So to me Raekor's is my favorite set out of all 3. I have every set on my barb with decent rolls all around and honestly I just love the build and how fun it is to pull mobs around and smash them with hammer. You can go fire or lightning or even physical with this set as it is an amazing fury generator. For me I am lightning and this is my build.
I haven't experimented with it, but I am going to try and drop ww for Battle Rage Bloodshed. My only concern is sometimes furious charge bugs out and you can easily die in high torment heres a video of me doing t6 with the set
http://www.twitch.tv/barrybondz/c/4166630
Immortal King's Call
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-boulder-breaker
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-eternal-reign
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-irons
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-stride
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-tribal-binding
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-triumph
Items for the build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/reapers-wraps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/strongarm-bracers
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-burning-axe-of-sankis
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/devastator
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/unity
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/haunt-of-vaxo
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rakoffs-glass-of-life
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/thunderfury-blessed-blade-of-the-windseeker
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/shard-of-hate
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/sun-keeper
Same as any, +elemental damage items and any good weapons.
Okay guys so IK is atm the weakest set of the three, but its still do-able at t5. To me IK is more for a generator than the damage your ancients do, we are not witch doctors. They generate fury incredibly fast letting you use a dumper like hota quite efficiently and this set is easily a gateway to t3-5. Again you have to pick skills to your off pieces whether its lightning or fire or physical, so again you would use hota smash over the lightning rune. If you were physical, again you could use bouldertoss with ancient spear as your dumper instead of hota. Down below is the exact build I used to farm t3-4 until I got my eq/raekor sets.
Might of the Earth
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/eyes-of-the-earth
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/pull-of-the-earth
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/spires-of-the-earth
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/weight-of-the-earth
Items for the build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/lut-socks
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/cindercoat
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/reapers-wraps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/strongarm-bracers
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-burning-axe-of-sankis
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/devastator
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/maximus
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/sun-keeper
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/unity
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/haunt-of-vaxo
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rakoffs-glass-of-life
Any other types of rares that have +elemental damage.
So I am pretty sure the most Mainstream build for barbs does not really require an introduction lol. This build is bananas and you have to be bananas to not really like it. Huge damage and its fun to leap around like a freak.
The earthquake build is pretty straight forward and you can swap out ruthless for weapon master if your heart really desired.
Again guys I need to stress to you that build diversity is based off your current gear and not looking at the mainstream cookie cutter builds you see on streams. You have to progress at your level and with what you have in your inventory, which means make smart decisions with your runes and go a strong route.
Aughild's Victory
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/aughilds-vestments
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/aughilds-brow
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/aughilds-triumph
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/aughilds-demands
If you are just starting out a barb as a secondary character than you could easily farm the mats to make to aughilds which is a great set overall even on ones main. 15% elite damage is amazing if you dont have an soj which we'll talk about down below.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/unity
Id like to make a strong mention of these rings for the power of +elite damage. I think getting 45% elite damage off rings is BiS and it should be any builds goal to run these rings and not for the "op damage reduction"
If I have missed something or you guys feel something needs to be added feel free to request me to add it.
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Lol I stood in a lazer for a second and THAT is what happens when you dont have your julia's equipped. Someones mad because hes clearing t1 while others like myself are clearing t6.