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    posted a message on Greetings

    Very interesting. This site has a fascinating 'behind the scenes' history.

    Originally Diablo3.com was owned and managed by Mockery who, if I recall correctly, was based out of Quebec (maybe Ontario?). Umaro was aother primary admin for the site with him at the time (who was a bit more 'active' in the day-to-day running of the site).

    Blizzard contacted Mockery about purchasing the Diablo3.com domain name in anticipation of the game announcement, but Mockery (I think, quite cleverly) opted instead to 'donate' the domain name to them in exchange for promotion - specifically, listing the new site (DiabloFans.com) on the official Diablo III website. When the game was announced, this led to a huge surge in users (IIRC from about 10,000 to 30,000 - practically over night). It was just before this 're-brand' that Umaro asked me onto the team to help with the graphical elements (e.g. new logo & banner, forum re-skin, etc).

    Not long after, it was announced that Mockery was moving on from the site and selling to the Curse gaming network (I believe around 2010-2012). At first, the site experienced a lot of growth during this period as anticipation for Diablo III grew - however, I believe shortly after the game was released, the site's activity experienced a decline. My guess would be this was for a few reasons. I think the mutual anticipation of the game had held more energy than the actual game itself and, when it was released, I think a lot of the spirit subsided. Many of us were tired of the wait by this point. Additionally, some, like me, were probably disappointed in Diablo III and weren't as motivated to remain active in the community. These factors probably combined to produce a decline in activity.

    Curse operated the site as part of its network for some time - before being acquired by Amazon / Twitch in 2016. Then, in 2018 the site (and many of Curse's assets, including DiabloFans.com and other similar sites) were bought by Wikia (aka Fandom). The current owner/operator of DFans is MagicFind - which appears to be a subsidiary of Fandom/Wikia - as their advertising is generated by Fandom (though I haven't actually confirmed that this is the relationship).

    I'm guessing that the 'blackout' you've been referring to happened sometime in that 2018-2020 range (does that seem correct?)

    ANYWAYS! All this has been very interesting to reflect on and research. I had to dig through some old emails from pre-2010 and do some Googling - which has all been surprisingly enjoyable. Thanks everyone for the nostalgia trip!

    Posted in: Introduction
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    posted a message on Activision Blizzard has several more remakes and remasters planned for 2020

    What would be better - a straight remaster of the original game (gameplay and mechanics unchanged) or a remake (with actual gameplay and mechanics updates as well as enhanced graphical elelements)?

    As much as I love the original D2, I could see room for improvement - though I'd be concerned that too much unnecessary tweaking could be problematic.

    Perhaps if they released a 'remake' with a 'classic' / 'vanilla' option that could be a good compromise (though that seems like much more work).

    This said - I'm skeptical they would remaster or remake D2, as they are still actively making so many new entries into the Diablo franchise. Re-releasing the most beloved entry in the series might cannibalize a good portion of their audience for the newer titles.

    What do the rest of you think?

    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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    posted a message on Diablo 2 Randomizer

    That's interesting. What are the limitations on the randomisation (how crazy does it get)?

    I'm wondering if this mod is intended to create a chaotic ridiculous experience or simply to enhance replay value by allowing more variation.


    Posted in: Diablo II
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    posted a message on Greetings

    Hello all,

    Jetrall here - I'm an old timer, but I've been away for some time now and figured I may warrant a re-introduction.

    Many years ago, when this site was still Diablo3.com, before the game was announced and Blizzard bought out the domain, I was a Mod here - and, later, an Admin. I was tasked with re-designing the site prior to the Blizzard buyout and the logo I made still sits atop the site today.

    I experienced some disappointment with the initial release of Diablo III and that, combined with a general burnout with online gaming and seeking a degree, led me away for a long while.

    I was, however, intrigued by the Diablo IV trailer and it got me reminiscing. I figured, if I wanted to stay up to date on the series and see where D4 is heading, it would make sense to come back and keep an eye on the forums & news.

    I'm especially interested to know if there are any others, like me, still around from the 'old days' and I'd also love to see how the site and its users have grown and changed over the years. What are the best new things on DiabloFans.com? Who are the users to know?

    Also - thanks to Chaud for resurrecting this account for me!

    Posted in: Introduction
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    posted a message on Logo Contest Winner!
    To everyone attempting to claim that there was no victor in the logo competition or that they deserve some sort of prize or compensation because no logo was chosen to represent DiabloFans.com, I say:

    What the hell, man? Why you trying to steal my thunder?

    The staff of DiabloFans clearly picked their favourite to represent the site and it currently adorns the top header of the page - just as it has for years.

    In other words, the winner is me and I'd appreciate if everyone else stopped trying to downplay that and complain that no winner was chosen.

    Bah humbug!

    / Troll
    Posted in: Off-Topic
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    posted a message on Official DIabloFans Logo Contest Submission Thread
    Quote from Dryhten

    Reconstructed the new face of Diablo giving me a lot of options to play around with.. here are a few..
    all 450x200px and layered vector.. I threw in a larger gray map to show the vector shapes
    if I have time I'll try to render a textured version
    also remade the runestones in vector, the circle is for unattuned for now
    remade the logo to match the D3 logo.. kept with the standard Abaddon and Blade 2 with a bit of custom work
    comments/ideas welcome please!

    These are quite good as well, IMO.

    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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    posted a message on Official DIabloFans Logo Contest Submission Thread
    I know I am no longer staff here, so my opinion is not super important on these matters. However, I would like to give my unofficial endorsement to these fine submissions...

    Quote from neshill

    Here ya go. Appreciate the site's support throughout the years.

    (Specifically the first one).

    Quote from ajohnson1

    Here's my entry. Got some work to do on the font still.

    I feel like these are the most effective (in order from top to bottom).

    If I have time I will work on one of my own.
    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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    posted a message on Amy Winehouse dead at 27
    Quote from -Mephisto

    I wouldn't go as far as to say that she deserved it, because we don't even know what she died of. I can say, however, that I don't give two shits about her death. Plenty of people die everyday. Unsung heroes of war, cancer patients, accidental deaths, and nobody gives two shits. I'm not gonna sob over a junky untalented celebrity just because she's a celebrity. She's done nothing good to her community. She has given nothing to this world. She has bettered nothing through nothing. She has spent her money on self destruction, which eventually led to her self destruction, and probably her eventual death. Does she deserve it? I don't particularly think so. Should I care or feel sorry for her? Absolutely not.

    I think this is only the second time I've said this, but I agree with Meph.

    I don't care about Amy Winehouse. Never listened to any of her music, never cared about her career or life, etc. I don't think she deserved death anymore than any other person does. (I'm of the belief that nobody deserves death or torture - although I understand that it can be acceptable in the face of the imminent deaths and/or torture of many others).

    With that in mind, I will say that anyone who thinks she deserved this is an asshole. Anyone who doesn't care is normal. Anyone who cares should focus more on their own lives and less on the lives of celebrities.

    That is all.
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    posted a message on Quite a few new members.
    I tend to base old/new on whether or not you were here for SICK. If you were a member of SICK (or were around when it was around) you're not new.

    Also, the announcement / name change, etc is a good indicator.
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    posted a message on Demographics
    Quote from kdt05b

    Inspired not so much by the thread topic, but from the discussion that arose from Daemaro's post here, I thought I'd share a video I came across a couple months ago. Looking at it, it's actually been two years since it was uploaded, so maybe it's old news and I'm just really behind the times.
    I don't know how to embed the video, so if somebody else wants to, it's this one.
    What are your thoughts on this?

    Living in the US, the way I see it, in not too many years, we'll either be owned by China, or in not many more years, we will become a Muslim nation.

    Now before people tear into me (I don't think anybody here would, but all the "discussions" on Kotaku and Gizmodo and such make me want to add a disclaimer), I want to point out that I have nothing against Muslims as individuals. I do believe that as a society, you are in it until you die...or else. I also think that as a nation they are nothing more than bullies. You might have to dig to find information, but there is a reason why Nike is the #1 supporter of Muslims internationally, and in my opinion, from what I've read/heard, it is mainly due to threats of the infamous "jihad"

    Now, I have never made a formal study of any of this. I just find all the little tidbits of information quite interesting. I welcome any- and everybody to correct me on points that are incorrect. So...back on topic...what are your thoughts?

    Your errors and misguided ideas are quite numerous (esp. in regards to Islam). I myself am an agnostic atheist w/ no Muslim or Arabic ancestry, but I at least understand a few of these key facts:

    Islam is not a society. It is a religion. You are not in it until you die anymore than you are w/ Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism. You can convert out of it just like any other religion. As with any other religion, you may or may not experience backlash based on the sorts of people you know.

    Islam is also not a nation. Now, I'm pretty sure you knew this and weren't speaking literally - but then I must ask which nation you were speaking of. There are no nations that are 100% Muslim. There are countries with a majority, but to suggest that most of them are "bullies" anymore than most Western or Eastern powers is absolutely ridiculous. Look at America, Britain, North Korea, China. Those countries are dangerous bullies in their own rights.

    What on earth does Nike have to do with anything? Where are you getting the idea that Nike is the #1 supporter of Muslims? That doesn't even make sense. Do you mean they donate the most money to mosques, that they personally fund Muslim people, or that they invest in Muslim-run countries/companies? You can't just throw such a vague and relatively meaningless fact into an argument for no good reason - so what's your reason?

    A Jihad? Seriously? The Muslim world is going to hold a Jihad against Nike? Yeah - right. Not only does the Muslim world as a whole not condone any Jihads, Jihad doesn't even always refer to a "holy war" as most people in the West incorrectly assume. I believe it means "struggle" and there are many personal ways in which to experience Jihad.

    At most one small group of Muslims might announce their hatred for Nike (who, btw, is a terrible organization that has and does abuse international child labour) - but how is this different than any other group announcing a hatred for any other organization? Should PETA or GreenPeace be denounced for hating companies that do animal testing? Should we assume that all Americans are associated with these groups and that they all believe the same way?

    I'm glad you're at least open to listen to reason - but you've really got a long way to come. The American government and media has done an awful lot to skew your impression of foreign nations and exotic religions. The amount of xenophobia bred into Americans from birth is just shocking.

    I sincerely hope you do some more research on Islam, the Middle East, and the world in general before you make any more such statements. I'm not going to go into anything further about Christianity or America or the idea that change is somehow evil, but I want to ask that you seriously consider your stance on all these points and really ask yourself where your beliefs come from and whether or not real facts validate them.

    Thank you!
    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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