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There is a lot of discussion, arguments and suggestions relating to Primal Ancients and Blizzard has Ideas on making them more interesting as do I. As a 5 year member of Diablo Fans and lurking prior to that I've seen some awesome threads and some incredible photoshop skills come into play when a few people with a few good ideas come together and that's where the basis of my suggestions come from.

I personally like primal ancients, the idea of another step up, adding grinding on top of grinding and in my opinion that is Diablo but I also believe that they should be more than a % increases in number ranges and a few way to simply tweak them, add some flavor or spice to the items are listed below.

• Visual differences in-game i.e. different colored glowing effects, cosmetic variations of the normal Legendaries to add some eye candy. Not making these new appearances transmogrifiable (?) will give a way to show off or running into somebody with that Golden Wand of Woh or a Primal Tals set giving off an angelic aura will inspire you to set out on a new adventure to look as awesome as they do.
• Adding an extra primary or secondary attribute to the armor and weapons unique to primal ancients but not game-breaking OP abilities or stats. Some examples of this could be as simple as a permanent XP bonus or more exciting such as a randomly selected ability on primal weapons / armor such as the first attack on elites slows their movespeed by %15 for 2 seconds, killing an elite pack grants you %100 more gold, after being hit by a champion or elite ability they're stunned for 1 second, after reviving move through enemies unhindered for 1 second, after reviving nearby enemies are stunned for 1 second, elites and champions also drop 5 blood shards, elites and champions also drop bonus crafting materials, and many more to chose from specific to weapons or armor that can not be enchanted that also do not dramatically effect gameplay. Attributes such as stunning enemies would not stack but bonus mats and blood shards would adding some variation. Getting that well rolled primal would be exciting then to read "Awesome, elites drop some blood shards too!"
• Adding another layer of depth into these items may be difficult but an ability to "level up" primal ancients all on their own could be another cool aspect with minor rewards such as "per level primal ancients draw closer to perfect stats" if you got a really good primal ancient with the perfect attributes but terrible rolls the item would start at level 0. you can reroll one attribute through the mystic as per usual but the ability to level up the item as you play could but the rolls up ever-so-slightly towards perfect. In example I find a primal ancient balefire caster. Damage is good. Rolled everything I want but the dex is as low as possible. Usable, definitely. Now this item levels up very slowly, with every level it adds automatically adds to the dex. Lets say items can be leveled 100 times. 1 dex per level. Not game breaking and sure it adds more grind but unless you were perfectly geared you wouldn't specifically grind XP just to get 100 dex but using the item over time draws it closer to being perfect.
• Combining the two ideas of leveling Primal Ancients along-side the specific primal ancient attributes, at a certain level you could select the attribute you want for your Primal as it slowly and progressively levels with the item. For example, you've leveled your primal ancient to 10. I want more blood shards starting at 3 blood shards from every elite pack, every 30 levels on the item it adds 1 more shard for a total of 6 blood shards per pack killed stacking alongside other primal ancients. I believe minor things like this will add some fun and depth, nothing game changing, but something else fun to strive for.

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I like the idea of a separate tab just for the armor look. It covers two key areas; You have to hunt for the armor for the look (was probably a given anyway), AND it doesn't eat up precious stash space, because it would be on your toon in the other tab.

I'll +1 you even if it's not completely original, because I'd love this feature implemented this way =)

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This is mind boggling. So you are saying they have the development and design experienced needed to implement this into the game, because they have already done it, but its just "too hard".

Or are you saying that adding this will make it more like the other game?
Well then why did they include yellow quest markers, male and female classes, achievements, damage numbers, hp bars, ect. ect.

Because these aren't WoW features just because they are in WoW, they are just features. Saying, "NO DON'T MAKE IT LIKE WOW" is foolish since WoW took many of its features from Diablo 2.

People want to see features from other games because, gosh, they are fun... But hey, I'm just a troll so discount my opinion and points.

People seriously need to learn how to read.

I never said I don't want transmog because it's a WoW feature. But quite a few people do (you can check the official forums for that).

Also, it's remembered as a "WoW feature" because WoW is a very popular game, and as far as I remember one of the first big titles to implement such system (I wouldn't know for sure though). Dislike it as much as you want, but people don't want features from what's seen as a more "casual" and "cartoony" mmorpg (other people's words, not mine - I don't care about having features from WoW).

I've been an avid defender of having a Transmog-like feature in D3 in all of my past posts, so get your facts together and try to understand the basic idea behind someone else's text before pointing fingers like that.

And yes, implementing something major like that IS hard. You can read my post and Jaetch's again to find out why.

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So I hate comparing games to other games because there's always two responses.
A. This isn't ____ ! If you like it so much go play it type attitude or..
B. Diablo 3 sucks that game is so much better / That's what Diablo 3 should have been.

So to clear the air before hand I love Diablo 3. Its amazing and I like it more than Path Of Exile (Which is also a great game) but It would still be cool if they used the same basic or altered idea to fit their needs with weapon, armor skins and skill skins like they use in their microtransaction style shop thing. I really like that idea of not only using a cool looking skill but changing the color or giving your helmet a cool spiritual aura, a halo, demon horns, or make your monks wave of light go from a bell to a boulder dropping down would be amazing and it alone would add tons of customization and with the creative juices blizzard has the potential for some incredible and widely varying skins. Although I can see this being a much more intricate process to actually get into the game.

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Subbed to your youtube channel you got some good material there to pass time while waiting for the release and the signatures are really nice looking. Keep up the good work!

Thanks
I actually just uploaded videos of all the newly released skill videos.

Btw, have you finished the female monk that Eraphocis posted would be cool the get it with my username and I'm Dark_sign, i just changed my username because i haven't used that for an year.

Thx for your time

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Why do you think it took so long for hell to invade? It is ofcourse Diablos diet. Didn't wanna show himself to Sanctuary still beeing fat.

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eh. most are just an area cut out of larger pics with text added. when i saw this thread i thought it was the ressurected diablo fans build sigs.

You must be an expert on graphic design then, eh? wtf are you doing hanging around a Diablo 3 forum critiquing someone else's work instead of hanging with the Graphics pros over at GDF or Estetica or something? Yeah, stfu chump...

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I'm just hoping that there's some sort of plot twist that relates to Diablo's "new" appearence something like him fusing with Lilith so that Lilith can take her revenge

I like the idea of leveling up Primal Ancients. Grinding would have more of a ongoing purpose then. Kind of falls into the Path of Exile skill gem idea where you level those up. In fact, how about just introducing a brand new set of Legendary Gems called Primal Gems? These could be added in three new slots: Gloves, Bracers, and Boots.

the game really need new additions to the game to be more that bigger sticks with bigger stats. powercreep is not the way to go, but yet the primary way for the development for some time now.

and new legendary powers instead of just stats.

Couldn't agree more with this post! Everything from adding a glowing effect to leveling it through some system and additional non-game breaking primary/secondary stats is something that should be added along with Primal Ancients themselves, which would separate them from basic Ancients.
I am honestly quite hyped for the whole Primal Ancient patch, but i think that something should be added to those except for stats increase, like the OP mentioned.

Nice idea. This kind of idea has a lot of potencial to make the game reward something fun to keep you playing/farming. Combine that with the armory and you can keep updating all the builds you play or like to play! Every primal you find can put you in a thinking state, if it is worth or not and where.. =)
At least it gives you much more viable options that the current state!

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My suggestion would be to actually improve the items instead of letting this game rot while they count their bucks from console sales. Frankly I'm sick of these "ideas" (no disrespect to the OP), because I've been hearing them from the players for over a year and hearing nothing from the actual people that make the game.

I've gotten to a point where I don't think they'll ever get it right. I've lost all confidence in that gaggle of knuckle heads. I've quit this fucked up game 4 times in the first year now. Not exactly what I had in mind all those years I anticipated the release.