Wow strong words. You are over stating and twisting what I am saying. I basically just want competitive PvP/eSports and I have listed reasons how and why it should be. It is not like PvE'ers don't have a right to post on PvP forums what they don't have the right to do is come in and harass the PvP forums. They don't give anyone a chance to talk about it they immediately start arguing and complaining. Without even considering it or trying to be open-minded about it. Even after you had stated your argument you keep going on about it and now it is pointless and flawed.
I think your just mad that I am right. You have no exsperiance in PvP and I do. You are the one not listening to the music. Nothing had can happen by making it an eSports. I have pointed out many times that you don't have to pick between PvE and PvP because you can have them both. You are the only avid anti-PvP poster here because you refuse to hear the truth. You stick to your same arguments of "they could but they won't". You keep kicking us "minorities" in the dirt because "we don't matter". You see something wrong with that mentality? Frankly it is rather irritating, because all I want to do is gather a crowd together who thinks like me, but it is really hard to do when I have to keep arguing with people like you. None of your arrguments are even solid anymore.
Now to your arrguments.
1. Wrong: Inferno can and will be beaten and if it can't people will give up. As for PvP there is going to be dramatically more PvP matches then there will be boss runs.
2. You already confirmed what I already said.
3. You are being ridiculous and also confirming what I said.
4. If you don't like to be competitive then don't play PvP because it is always going to be competitive no matter what you do.
5. I assume that because no one else has come forward. Point one out to me.
6. Nothing wrong here.
7. You have no idea how it is going to turn out.
8. Exactly, you and Blizzard are simply wrong.
9. Here again you have no idea, peoples opinions change all the time.
As for your last paragraph, if the tables were turned you would be doing the exact same thing and I think you are even doing it now.
I can't wait till PvP comes out and then we make it into a very competitive eSports. The moment I played the PvP that's all I could think about. I'll keep this up all day and night because nobody has proved me wrong. The PvP is not going to be out till the end of the year. They don't know how the skills/gear/players or even Blizzard will act when it does and they don't want to trust me for my own PvP exsperiance. So what can I do?
Lol I have already duked it out with Ecutruin on my own thread. It seams to me that we the PvP'ers just want have a fiendly talk with other PvP'ers. Then PvE'ers come in and start augments which are irrelevant and pointless. Most if them are just "No", "It will never be a competitive PvP","Jay Wilson says....","Why should we support the minorities?","It will never be an eSports". PvP is the end-game it has to be competitive, other wise what's the point? PvP will keep people consistantly playing on a day to day basis. I don't care what anyone tells me, PvP is essential for prolonging a games life and is not going to affect the PvE at all in Diablo 3. So I don't see why the PvE'ers see the need to argue at all.
I don't compare Diablo 3 to Diablo 2 or any other games. One, it's not even out yet, two it creates more pointless arguments. But in DIablo 2 the only reason I did Baal runs AT ALL was to level up and get better gear for PvP. Which is probably why there was so many Baal run games and trading games. If you already have gear good enough to kill Baal why do you need to keep getting better gear? It is because you want to be better than other players, not so you can kill Baal faster because I bet that almost nobody keeps time recordings then gets all happy when they beat their record. It is not fun doing the same thing over and over and over and over again only to have the good drops grabbed by someone else.
How many people want Diablo to be an eSports? I know I would, it would give Diablo pvp a whole new meaning. I think it would work great and get better the more blizzard works with it. You can compare it to wow pvp (I'd rather not lol) Diablo has Line of Sight, Cool-downs, Crowd Controls, Buffs, different builds for variety and does take teamwork and skill to win. Diablo 3 has already become way more complex than click-to-smash like in Diablo 2 (don't get me wrong I love Diablo 2). They could incorporate multiple pvp version like TDM, LMS, CTF or whatever the players want.
I was lucky enough to go to last years Blizzcon and exsperiance the Diablo 3 pvp multiple times. All the classes were very balanced there was no annoying healer like in wow and it was a whole lot more fun than wow. They could also incorporate an arena system and have the finals at Blizzcon every year. Sense they don't do Warcraft tournaments there is a spot open. If started early the eSports would last a long time since there is going to be 2 or 3 exspansions with the game.
I know the said they wouldn't do it but they also said that if there was enough of us who wants Diablo 3 to be an eSport they would do it. So who wants a more competitive pvp?
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Now to your arrguments.
1. Wrong: Inferno can and will be beaten and if it can't people will give up. As for PvP there is going to be dramatically more PvP matches then there will be boss runs.
2. You already confirmed what I already said.
3. You are being ridiculous and also confirming what I said.
4. If you don't like to be competitive then don't play PvP because it is always going to be competitive no matter what you do.
5. I assume that because no one else has come forward. Point one out to me.
6. Nothing wrong here.
7. You have no idea how it is going to turn out.
8. Exactly, you and Blizzard are simply wrong.
9. Here again you have no idea, peoples opinions change all the time.
As for your last paragraph, if the tables were turned you would be doing the exact same thing and I think you are even doing it now.
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I don't compare Diablo 3 to Diablo 2 or any other games. One, it's not even out yet, two it creates more pointless arguments. But in DIablo 2 the only reason I did Baal runs AT ALL was to level up and get better gear for PvP. Which is probably why there was so many Baal run games and trading games. If you already have gear good enough to kill Baal why do you need to keep getting better gear? It is because you want to be better than other players, not so you can kill Baal faster because I bet that almost nobody keeps time recordings then gets all happy when they beat their record. It is not fun doing the same thing over and over and over and over again only to have the good drops grabbed by someone else.
To all the PvP'ers, keep up the good work.
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I was lucky enough to go to last years Blizzcon and exsperiance the Diablo 3 pvp multiple times. All the classes were very balanced there was no annoying healer like in wow and it was a whole lot more fun than wow. They could also incorporate an arena system and have the finals at Blizzcon every year. Sense they don't do Warcraft tournaments there is a spot open. If started early the eSports would last a long time since there is going to be 2 or 3 exspansions with the game.
I know the said they wouldn't do it but they also said that if there was enough of us who wants Diablo 3 to be an eSport they would do it. So who wants a more competitive pvp?