I hope you all eat your words after they release a single-player version..
Personally? I think that'd be tits to have a single player version, but since ( Blizzards words ) there's no intention of ever making one, for the already 1 million times stated reasons, it's no skin off of my back. It sucks when you can't connect to the internet, I get that. But realize that's a very small minority of people planning on playing D3 at all, and you must sacrifice the few for the many; In this case take out single player, but make the game as a whole much more enjoyable because of the increased security.
I hope you all eat your words after they release a single-player version..
Personally? I think that'd be tits to have a single player version, but since ( Blizzards words ) there's no intention of ever making one, for the already 1 million times stated reasons, it's no skin off of my back. It sucks when you can't connect to the internet, I get that. But realize that's a very small minority of people planning on playing D3 at all, and you must sacrifice the few for the many; In this case take out single player, but make the game as a whole much more enjoyable because of the increased security.
I must ask you somthing. What for do you need that much security? How I understand, there will be no ladder, no PvP competition and statistic for that, and things like that. The game can be played with max 4 players, so finding people that dont cheat is not hard. What do you really get from this security, if there is nothing similer to like sc2? With single player option, you can play same if you play with people that you know. You will lose nothing, but other people will get everything because they can play single player. I would understand this much request for security if there was competition like in SC2, but there is none.
Edit: I will stop feed the trolls now. Even tho I do understand your situation Ragnar, gl tho. Hopefully you will get a better connection, even tho 1MB is very fine, but it all depends on the MS, and that's not related to up/down speed.
Thanks for your kind words mate. Man this forum is so big, i cant even get to read all the thing I want and its even worse with posting.
And i'm in europe, on balkans, i didn't have internet until a year ago. Now I have 1 mb conection. There are a lot of people that dont have any internet, or have bad connectiona, saying otherwise is being naive.
The rest of the world can't really hold off technological development just because you are behind in the balkans, no offence
Should you ban all MMO:s aswell, since they require an internet connection?
The rest of the world? The rest of world does not have computer at all, or in best case have some old crap, because its luxure for what they don't have money. You and me are small part of the world.=)
I just can't understand your argument. Because some people are poor/don't have access to an internet connection, then you shouldn't make the game as is? Not everybody can afford to have nVidias latest GPU:s either, should nVidia stop making them? The market is obviously people with an acceptable internet connection.
First, its not some, second they are not poor in ther countries, but compared to others they are. Also diablo 1 and 2 didnt need internet conectio, so it was played in thoes countres. Now they wont. But nVidida is making also cheap GPU, from what it gets much more income then best GPU, and you know from where that income comes? Try to ghes who is buying all cheap GPUs.
Oh ragnar, your so smart dude! Nice way to go onto personal attack.
So I don't have the right to speak because you think i'm stupid?
Your so misleading the whole point about it is online only.
Think about it for yourself.
Never said that your stupid, but that you said nothing smart. If I insult you in a way, i'm sorry for that, but i dont like when people post somthing with no explanation, and say that wee live in 2012.
But ok, if you so dearly think Blizzard is doing this wrong by making it Online only. Then continue fight for your cause, but i'm afraid it's in vein..
I will, with every part of my soul, because I know how it feels like to have somthing that is normal in some countries.
And i'm in europe, on balkans, i didn't have internet until a year ago. Now I have 1 mb conection. There are a lot of people that dont have any internet, or have bad connectiona, saying otherwise is being naive.
The rest of the world can't really hold off technological development just because you are behind in the balkans, no offence
Should you ban all MMO:s aswell, since they require an internet connection?
The rest of the world? The rest of world does not have computer at all, or in best case have some old crap, because its luxure for what they don't have money. You and me are small part of the world.=)
Noone is forcing you to buy the damn game at all even if you so desire to play it (bad statement but true).
And blizzard won't change their minds, and good god for that. I DO NOT want a "manipulated" game in any way. It will completely destroy everything about the game - The item hunt leading to RMAH/GAH, Which is the part of the game that ppl will play it for.
Blizard will not change it, but i will in every possible way try to tell them and other people when they do somthing wrong.
When is ppl going to get over that offline thing. Wake up, its 2012, or do you live in the deepest forest of Africa or in Siberia? Ofc I can only speak for my own country that's Sweden. The internet is good here. But can it be THAT BAD at other places.
Yes, it is bad, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE RANTING ABOUT IT. Go out of sweden and travel the world a little, and see it for youself what is the situation.
But as always. There MUST be ppl who moan about anything/something/everything that's negative for them.
And there are always people that except everything, is it good or bad.
Next time If you dont have anything smart to say, please dont posti, or if you angry go outside and run a circles or somthing.
I'm in a middle of Sahara Desert in Algeria. 1500 km from the coast, In Salah town to be exact. And I still have internet here (obviously, cause you can read my post). There is hardly fresh water and clean sheets, but there is internet.
It's online only, live with it :]
PS. Although I have to say that internet here sucks big time. So thankfully I'll be working here for two/three more weeks, and then go back home
And i'm in europe, on balkans, i didn't have internet until a year ago. Now I have 1 mb conection. There are a lot of people that dont have any internet, or have bad connectiona, saying otherwise is being naive.
Noone is forcing you to buy the damn game at all even if you so desire to play it (bad statement but true).
And blizzard won't change their minds, and good god for that. I DO NOT want a "manipulated" game in any way. It will completely destroy everything about the game - The item hunt leading to RMAH/GAH, Which is the part of the game that ppl will play it for.
Blizard will not change it, but i will in every possible way try to tell them and other people when they do somthing wrong.
When is ppl going to get over that offline thing. Wake up, its 2012, or do you live in the deepest forest of Africa or in Siberia? Ofc I can only speak for my own country that's Sweden. The internet is good here. But can it be THAT BAD at other places.
Yes, it is bad, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE RANTING ABOUT IT. Go out of sweden and travel the world a little, and see it for youself what is the situation.
Practically your paying 60 bucks for a game that you cant control, if blizzard decide to ban you from their server (mistake or on purpose) practically your being robed and is nothing you can do, you cant play it offline.
Is this a fair deal guys ? ok you can sue them but it will take some months, years maybe to solve the problem.
I don`t see the need of always online on this kind of games really really bad decision and they will loose many customers because of it.
Here is the list of things that I don't like becose of online only:
-Because of only online we dont have mods.
-Because of only online you have limitations in game, like only 10 characters, smaller stash.
-Because of only online you will have lag
-Because of only online you cant play when you want where you want.
-Because of only online you don't own diablo 3, if somthing happens to servers or blizzard, you can kiss your money and game goodbye (it is almost impossible to happen, but it can)
What are the benefits of only online? Harder to hack. I would understand this if there is any competition in diablo 3 or lader,but the funny thing is, this is because of RMHA (that is also another problem).
As you've pointed out its done to promote their RMAH, battle.net balance and to monitor your online behaviour. Funny f act though, games with online only requirements are also the most pirated ones.
Jay Wilson again doesn't understand the real problem behind it. Problem isn't that people don't have Internet its they don't want to use Battle.net and let Blizzard spy their behaviour or not being able playing the game, because the servers are down ...
Its not flaming or something. I just can't agree with this point. Blizzard want to make money, so they want to sell as much copies of game as they can. Online only prevent game from piracy. And other things like shared stash should convince every player to have his own copy of game.
Online only does not prevent games from piracy, and that is not the reason for implementing only online. Sharing stash doesn't have to do anything with only online. Emulating servers will be much more easier than WoW servers. The biggest problem to emulate will be advanced Ai. At the moment monsters just attack you from close, with no skills to use or anything like that. Drops, random areas, skills, quests, and thing like that will be easy to copy (create), and code.
But the moment the game is released, the really work will start for creating emulators, mods and other things.
Well thats the only good thing about online only. But there are a ton of problems that come with it, i doubt that onlyonline is a good decision they made.
Yes, problems do come whenever you make a decision to use "new" tech. In the end, Blizzard probably looked at the number of people who wouldn't buy it (I'm sure a very small number) vs the headache of constantly trying to fight dupes/hacks, and decided online only was a better decision. And don't tell me a lot of people won't buy it because it's online only - look at the sales of of steam games. Sure steam has an offline mode, but that thing is buggier then Bethesda games.
As to the people saying
The problem is, that blizz did this probably because of RMHA. You will not make a expensive infrastructure (that costs a lot to maintain) for somthing like this because to stop haces. Especially if game has no competition and non ladder (like SC2). I think the only online is because of RMHA. And i'm a little scared what will happen if rmha dont brings enogh money to suport the infrastructure.
And also there are a lot of people that will not buy diablo 3 because of only online, But oits not that big number to the people that will buy and money they will get from RMHA.
Why is peoples upset about the non existing single player feature?
Does anybody with a Diablo 3 account not have internet access at all time?
I just don't want to play online..thats my grip on the whole ordeal. Kinda upset I got to play sc2 fine offline and now on D3 I'm stuck online the whole time. Oh well I guess life goes on I just kinda feel bad for the people who don't alway have internet connection. Alot of my friends have either slow or Dial up so I understand why removing single player will completley suck for them.
I share your pain mate, but some people don't understand it.
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I must ask you somthing. What for do you need that much security? How I understand, there will be no ladder, no PvP competition and statistic for that, and things like that. The game can be played with max 4 players, so finding people that dont cheat is not hard. What do you really get from this security, if there is nothing similer to like sc2? With single player option, you can play same if you play with people that you know. You will lose nothing, but other people will get everything because they can play single player. I would understand this much request for security if there was competition like in SC2, but there is none.
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First, its not some, second they are not poor in ther countries, but compared to others they are. Also diablo 1 and 2 didnt need internet conectio, so it was played in thoes countres. Now they wont. But nVidida is making also cheap GPU, from what it gets much more income then best GPU, and you know from where that income comes? Try to ghes who is buying all cheap GPUs.
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Never said that your stupid, but that you said nothing smart. If I insult you in a way, i'm sorry for that, but i dont like when people post somthing with no explanation, and say that wee live in 2012.
You don't feel, if you did, you would support them.
You don't travel to check internet, but the way they live.
I will, with every part of my soul, because I know how it feels like to have somthing that is normal in some countries.
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And i'm in europe, on balkans, i didn't have internet until a year ago. Now I have 1 mb conection. There are a lot of people that dont have any internet, or have bad connectiona, saying otherwise is being naive.
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And they are? Write me only 3 pros if you can.
Gaming experience doesn't have to do anything with online only.
Blizard will not change it, but i will in every possible way try to tell them and other people when they do somthing wrong.
Yes, it is bad, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE RANTING ABOUT IT. Go out of sweden and travel the world a little, and see it for youself what is the situation.
And there are always people that except everything, is it good or bad.
Next time If you dont have anything smart to say, please dont posti, or if you angry go outside and run a circles or somthing.
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-Because of only online we dont have mods.
-Because of only online you have limitations in game, like only 10 characters, smaller stash.
-Because of only online you will have lag
-Because of only online you cant play when you want where you want.
-Because of only online you don't own diablo 3, if somthing happens to servers or blizzard, you can kiss your money and game goodbye (it is almost impossible to happen, but it can)
What are the benefits of only online? Harder to hack. I would understand this if there is any competition in diablo 3 or lader,but the funny thing is, this is because of RMHA (that is also another problem).
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Online only does not prevent games from piracy, and that is not the reason for implementing only online. Sharing stash doesn't have to do anything with only online. Emulating servers will be much more easier than WoW servers. The biggest problem to emulate will be advanced Ai. At the moment monsters just attack you from close, with no skills to use or anything like that. Drops, random areas, skills, quests, and thing like that will be easy to copy (create), and code.
But the moment the game is released, the really work will start for creating emulators, mods and other things.
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And also there are a lot of people that will not buy diablo 3 because of only online, But oits not that big number to the people that will buy and money they will get from RMHA.
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