You really don't need any paragon to do up to gr70. It is 100% your gear and skill level. For monk, a nice strong easy newbie build would be the Lashing Tailkick sunwuko build.
I would use bane of the trapped, bane of the powerful, and esoteric alteration for legendary gems. I would also use in-geom or furnace in the cube.
That should make 70+ seem easy for you.
D3 takes no skill at all, sorry, it is 100% paragon level. Everyone has perfect gear BiS gear, it is about your pLvl and gem lvl (which comes from higher GRs gained through higher pLvl)
Technically speaking GR70 is approximately the base GR for a fully geared character at 200 paragon. So I mean. Not technically wrong.
Right now I'm only able to get to 51. I am going to look at the Lashing Tail Kick build and see what that can do and see if I can progress more. Or since that's the build that my wife plays, maybe just stick with my ZDPS ... I love being a support role.
You really don't need any paragon to do up to gr70. It is 100% your gear and skill level. For monk, a nice strong easy newbie build would be the Lashing Tailkick sunwuko build.
I would use bane of the trapped, bane of the powerful, and esoteric alteration for legendary gems. I would also use in-geom or furnace in the cube.
That should make 70+ seem easy for you.
D3 takes no skill at all, sorry, it is 100% paragon level. Everyone has perfect gear BiS gear, it is about your pLvl and gem lvl (which comes from higher GRs gained through higher pLvl)
To a point I think that I can agree with you. There is a specific level of skill though that has to come with the knowledge of the skills, how they interact with one another (synergy) where and when to use them.
Sure Paragon levels do help ... coming from a self-confessed noob I can say that adamantly, but I think they both go hand-in-hand together.
I was power leveled once in Season 8 as a Monk toon. I honestly didn't know what I was doing in it, and then deleted the Monk to create a Witch Dr.
It was when I quested for the armor that I realized why Seasonal characters were important, especially for the new folks.
I have a ZDPS Monk that has been into Level 60-ish rifts, but wasn't sure if we needed to do them solo or not.
My wife had made a DPS Monk, so I think we will have to work together to get into the higher ones then?
No you don't have to do Greater Rifts solo (to unlock higher levels or otherwise)- in fact D3 is really set up to reward you exponentially more if you run in a group than the meager rewards you get playing solo. Join a clan, run with the wife, etc.
Also, when you are opening a GRift at the Nephalim Obelisk in town notice that the Greater Rift levels will have the Torment level in parenthesis after the GRift level... eg. Grift "level 45 (Torment 10)" , "level 50 (Torment 11)", and so on. (pretty sure that looks the same whether you are playing on PC or console) If you still have some general questions about Greater Rifts or anything in D3 check youtube. Sometimes a 2 minute video can explain something a lot better than trying to explain things in a few paragraphs of type. GL.
That's great! As I said before my wife made a DPS Monk while I have a ZDPS that I'm hoping that we will be able to push higher in those levels together. That's a huge relief ...
I guess where I'm getting confused is what a torment is, and how it relates to Greater Rifts.
I know that there are Nephalem Rifts, and Greater Rifts. Are Torments the level of the Greater Rift?
Finishing the GR I understand, thanks for pointing that out.
Torment is the difficulty of your game, which starts at normal and goes all the way up to Torment 13, therefore torments are only important when you're talking about Nephalem Rifts or bounties or stuff besides Greater Rifts, Greater Rifts have their own difficulty, I guess thats what confused you. The difficulty of a GR is the dropdown that you have when starting it.
That definitely led to the confusion for sure.
When I logged into game the day when I posted that reply to you, I clicked on Greater Rift and took the time to look at my options, and it hit me. Greater Rift levels are the individual levels in that list, where Torment levels are the ones staggered through those levels (up to 13).
I've revamped my one-punch Monk to include the latest changes in 2.4.3, I can at least get to GR level 51 ... I have my gems leveled to 50, still trying to figure out what more I need to get higher.
there is no way for you to currently achieve higher GRs unless you play season and start to paragon grind with a group at the start of the season. In the past of this game there was massive exploiting, botting, key multiplying, blood shard multiplying, and experience gear and higher experience in the higher GRifts you went which compounded all of the other bonuses. Since all gear is flavor of the month and BiS ancient gear was obtained instantly, the only thing that matters in D3 was improving your mainstat and innate power (paragon).
Sure you can get to GR 12 after slowly leveling up your paragon and increasing mainstat and gear slightly but you have to be carried (all top GRs were in 4 mans getting carried) to multiply the xp and power bonuses.
Just remember that all the people you see doing high GRs and high paragon level all were carried to get there, none of them did this by themselves just on the backs of each other. D3 is not a solo game, perhaps and hopefully D4 will be
That's insightful.
I have been active since Season 8, I like those opportunities since I can create a class to try and get the armor, experience the builds, etc. I think between the last Season and this one, I should have over 1k Paragon. I play that much =)
I've referenced builds that are titled as "GR60+, wont work on anything lower" but I have to get to that level in order to test it. Just seems like a wicked circle. =)
Yeah and you can also have someone (a friend, clanmate, a random stranger in chat, etc) open a higher GRift for you and that will unlock that GRift level and all the levels below it.
As far as being able to play in those higher GRifts successfully, it is a combination of having experience playing your build and just constantly upgrading and optimizing your gear, getting ancients and augmenting them, upgrading your gems,,, building up your paragon levels and that sort of thing. It will feel like you hit a glass ceiling with most builds until you get all those things done.
Also be aware that you may watch a video of someone just destroying a high level GRift with your build on Youtube- they probably have perfect gear and have a few thousand paragon levels and maybe a few thousand hours playing the general build. They might have had to "fish" for the perfect GRift (the right monster type and density, the right pylons, the right RG).
Join a clan and run in a party as much as possible. Do what is fun for you and eventually you will get to their level. GL
AHH, so you don't have to do it solo?
I have a ZDPS Monk that has been into Level 60-ish rifts, but wasn't sure if we needed to do them solo or not.
My wife had made a DPS Monk, so I think we will have to work together to get into the higher ones then?
In a previous post I stated that I started to play D3 a bit late. What I mean by that is I played Diablo, and D2 when they were first introduced into the mainstream, What I mean by this is that I was actively enthralled with other game titles that kept me from playing this one.
In taking a break from other games, looking for that next venture to capture and consume most of my game time, I bought D3 and the expansion and haven't regretted the decision at all.
I do however, have a question about achieving Greater Rift levels beyond GR11.
I religiously check this site and icy veins for builds, and delve into understanding the game-play and method behind the build so that I can make it work. So much that I find myself thinking about the synergy effects between items and skills so that I can become a better player, but getting to higher GR levels is escaping me.
My main characters for GR are monks, a one-punch build and a ZDPS one too.
How do I push forward and be able to open and play in the higher rifts? What am I missing?!
0
Time to get the wife to put Andromeda away, hehe ...
0
0
Sure Paragon levels do help ... coming from a self-confessed noob I can say that adamantly, but I think they both go hand-in-hand together.
I was power leveled once in Season 8 as a Monk toon. I honestly didn't know what I was doing in it, and then deleted the Monk to create a Witch Dr.
It was when I quested for the armor that I realized why Seasonal characters were important, especially for the new folks.
1
No you don't have to do Greater Rifts solo (to unlock higher levels or otherwise)- in fact D3 is really set up to reward you exponentially more if you run in a group than the meager rewards you get playing solo. Join a clan, run with the wife, etc.
Also, when you are opening a GRift at the Nephalim Obelisk in town notice that the Greater Rift levels will have the Torment level in parenthesis after the GRift level... eg. Grift "level 45 (Torment 10)" , "level 50 (Torment 11)", and so on. (pretty sure that looks the same whether you are playing on PC or console) If you still have some general questions about Greater Rifts or anything in D3 check youtube. Sometimes a 2 minute video can explain something a lot better than trying to explain things in a few paragraphs of type. GL.
That's great! As I said before my wife made a DPS Monk while I have a ZDPS that I'm hoping that we will be able to push higher in those levels together. That's a huge relief ...
0
That definitely led to the confusion for sure.
When I logged into game the day when I posted that reply to you, I clicked on Greater Rift and took the time to look at my options, and it hit me. Greater Rift levels are the individual levels in that list, where Torment levels are the ones staggered through those levels (up to 13).
I've revamped my one-punch Monk to include the latest changes in 2.4.3, I can at least get to GR level 51 ... I have my gems leveled to 50, still trying to figure out what more I need to get higher.
0
I have been active since Season 8, I like those opportunities since I can create a class to try and get the armor, experience the builds, etc. I think between the last Season and this one, I should have over 1k Paragon. I play that much =)
I've referenced builds that are titled as "GR60+, wont work on anything lower" but I have to get to that level in order to test it. Just seems like a wicked circle. =)
0
I have a ZDPS Monk that has been into Level 60-ish rifts, but wasn't sure if we needed to do them solo or not.
My wife had made a DPS Monk, so I think we will have to work together to get into the higher ones then?
0
I guess where I'm getting confused is what a torment is, and how it relates to Greater Rifts.
I know that there are Nephalem Rifts, and Greater Rifts. Are Torments the level of the Greater Rift?
Finishing the GR I understand, thanks for pointing that out.
0
In a previous post I stated that I started to play D3 a bit late. What I mean by that is I played Diablo, and D2 when they were first introduced into the mainstream, What I mean by this is that I was actively enthralled with other game titles that kept me from playing this one.
In taking a break from other games, looking for that next venture to capture and consume most of my game time, I bought D3 and the expansion and haven't regretted the decision at all.
I do however, have a question about achieving Greater Rift levels beyond GR11.
I religiously check this site and icy veins for builds, and delve into understanding the game-play and method behind the build so that I can make it work. So much that I find myself thinking about the synergy effects between items and skills so that I can become a better player, but getting to higher GR levels is escaping me.
My main characters for GR are monks, a one-punch build and a ZDPS one too.
How do I push forward and be able to open and play in the higher rifts? What am I missing?!