This probably isn't the smartest move, but I'm going to be gone all day playing baseball, and I figure there's a 50/50 shot of me living through the night even if I don't say anything.
I'm the Paladin. Yesterday, I used Thorns on myself, since I figured I attracted some attention (and when I'm innocent I tend to be targeted for kills early). Seems like it was a good idea, because I killed Baal.
Since Thaigare probably died from poison, then it seems Baal used Destruction. If Celebel is telling the truth, then that means Firestorm and I were targeted, along with one other who "saved". Though that one other might have been blocked (which again, if Celebel is telling the truth, might have been Celebel... since he said he was blocked).
That would also mean that some silly (I'm being nice in that phrasing) Satyr gave AP to one of the Evil people. This is why you don't give AP unless you are certain or nearly certain of their innocence.
That is why I believe Celebel. There is the chance that Firestorm was Deckard Cain and Celebel used the fact roles aren't revealed to lie, but I doubt it. Eventually the Necro will scan Daemaro and find out.
For today I would suggest to vote out either Vicer97 or Agriosgeorge. Right now, I'm leaning towards Agriosgeorge because he got defensive, and he's basically admitted to not helping find scum ("...but not disturbing the peace that exists", he says). However, he's also softclaiming Druid, so I'm not sure what the best route is here.
Putting this in now since I won't be around.
Vote: Vicer97 because Agrios might be the Druid.
If you are innocent (Agrios), you should start participating more. Get conversations going. Accuse people and see what their reaction is... anything more than you're doing now. You're no good to us at the moment.
-sigh- you'll find out what I am once you kill me then... you really shouldnt be trusting cel imo. figured "im trying to get away from the evil", followed by "make sure you read the lore for each role" would be clue enough.
At this point, you can just say Satyr. *sigh* Fine...
Vote: Vicer97
@Hashio: The reason I switched was because Agrios talked today... Vicer did not. So Vicer will get a prod, Agrios will not.
well if you really cant figure out what role I am... I dont know what to say. Cel I dont trust after yesterday at all.
I looked back through the posts... I didn't really see a soft roleclaim, but granted I did it fast since we're running out of time. Unless you're trying to claim that you're Deckard Cain. Best not to be coy with these sorts of things now.
Well, Vicer97 hasn't posted yet today, which means he'll be prodded... and I don't like that Molsterr is keeping his vote on Celebel. The lack of voting in general is a bit disturbing.
Also, I suggest against Verity or anyone who might be modkilled. It's a waste of a vote.
agriosgeorge, on the other hand, is doing a fine job of posting enough to make him noticed, but not actually saying anything in his posts (related to finding scum at least).
So I'm fine with either one today (Vicer97 or agriosgeorge). I'm not sure about Gunner, but he hasn't triggered anymore warning bells with me today.
Niarb_Egamad27 has been castrated and removed from the game.
Let that be a lesson to those who disobey the Mod's rules!
Can you give us the alignment of people who are modkilled? I actually kinda like not having their role, but knowing if they were mafia or innocent would be nice.
Not sure if I follow. I may be missing something, but...
Day 1 we had no night kills.
Day 2 we had two night kills.
it's far more lkely that day2 deaths were a poison from the previous day and a regular night kill than other options, even moreso since pretty much every innocent role kill has a chance to fail.
How can we be so sure Daemaro was scum and Celebel is telling the truth? I mean, the Prime Evils wouldn't poison or kill one of them >_>
Just have the necromancer use "Autopsy" on Daemaro. Will tell us if Celebel is lying or not. Granted, there's a chance Celebel is lying... but it's unlikely. And it's way better than killing off Deckard Cain in the case that he's telling the truth.
EDIT: Also, off to bed. So I'll put this in case I'm not back until later:
You say that, but I honestly doubt any less-thorough explanation would suffice, as you were pretty adamantly going after me.
You might be right. And I suppose we have more than enough ways to try and prevent them from killing you... as long as we don't have too many people claiming.
As far as target for today, I would like people to consider Vicer97. As I said yesterday... the hiders to watch out for are the ones that talk a little, but just enough to stay under radar. Of course, that's if we don't have any better options come up.
*reaches into said cube and starts pulling out random objects, which are subsequently throw at various people*
I'm freaking Deckard Cain you stupid little punk! Why can't you just be respectful and listen to your elders!? I scanned Daemaro on Night 1 and got scum! When he voted the inactive into a clear lead yesterday, I knew that person was innocent, so I tried setting up a 2nd player for a lynch, knowing that if Daemaro didn't change his target there was a good chance Donsro was scum as well. When Daemaro did change his vote, I knew Donsro was innocent and tried to ninja back to save the active innocent instead of the inactive one, but I was too late.
*Kaedan is hit with a ballistic tuna fish*
That's why I refused to say anything last night. You think I'm stupid enough to put a massive "Please kill me mafia, I am a scanner!" sign on my head? Why don't you little brats ever think before shouting!?
*a kitchen sink and car tire join the various airborne projectiles*
And for that matter, I was blocked twice last night, why are you idiots wasting your blocks on me!?
Well, we didn't need exactly that much detail. Probably didn't have to go so far as to claim. But thanks for the information. Of course, there's the chance the other person killed last night was Deckard Cain, but I'm willing to believe you for now.
Hey! Ya know who else doesn't answer things besides scum?! That's right, innocents with their own information-finding agendas! If I say why I did what I did and explain the reasoning, it kills my whole scum-hunting attempt that I'm currently working on. This is because the moment I explain my reasoning, those I am watching will immediately alter their behavior accordingly and no longer present potential scumtells based on my reasoning.
Don't pretend that there's some grand secret here Celebel. You made a vote and asked people to follow. Some did. Trying to ninja vote back to the person who has been afk this whole time served no purpose... at least not a scumhunting one.
Even if there was more to your less-than-elaborate "scumhunting"... it would serve more purpose to be honest and open about your votes and explain your reasoning. That way, if people DO change their behavior we can notice that.
Why? If I say what I'm thinking it spoils things. You expect me to just say something because you tell me to? This is part of my scumhunt. You asked why I tried to ninja-swap and I answered you. Don't like my answer? Sorry, but that isn't my problem right now.
It is your problem, cause it's a bright, flashing scumtell. You didn't answer... you refused to answer. People who don't answer questions (or deflect them) are usually scum. If you're innocent, you should have no problem explaining why. Despite what you think, it won't spoil things at all. In fact, all it will do is lead to the game of "wine in front of me".
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Wait, wait, wait... you mean two mafia died the night I used Thorns?
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I'm the Paladin. Yesterday, I used Thorns on myself, since I figured I attracted some attention (and when I'm innocent I tend to be targeted for kills early). Seems like it was a good idea, because I killed Baal.
Since Thaigare probably died from poison, then it seems Baal used Destruction. If Celebel is telling the truth, then that means Firestorm and I were targeted, along with one other who "saved". Though that one other might have been blocked (which again, if Celebel is telling the truth, might have been Celebel... since he said he was blocked).
That would also mean that some silly (I'm being nice in that phrasing) Satyr gave AP to one of the Evil people. This is why you don't give AP unless you are certain or nearly certain of their innocence.
That is why I believe Celebel. There is the chance that Firestorm was Deckard Cain and Celebel used the fact roles aren't revealed to lie, but I doubt it. Eventually the Necro will scan Daemaro and find out.
For today I would suggest to vote out either Vicer97 or Agriosgeorge. Right now, I'm leaning towards Agriosgeorge because he got defensive, and he's basically admitted to not helping find scum ("...but not disturbing the peace that exists", he says). However, he's also softclaiming Druid, so I'm not sure what the best route is here.
Putting this in now since I won't be around.
Vote: Vicer97 because Agrios might be the Druid.
If you are innocent (Agrios), you should start participating more. Get conversations going. Accuse people and see what their reaction is... anything more than you're doing now. You're no good to us at the moment.
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At this point, you can just say Satyr. *sigh* Fine...
Vote: Vicer97
@Hashio: The reason I switched was because Agrios talked today... Vicer did not. So Vicer will get a prod, Agrios will not.
EDIT: Might want to bold your vote Hashio.
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I looked back through the posts... I didn't really see a soft roleclaim, but granted I did it fast since we're running out of time. Unless you're trying to claim that you're Deckard Cain. Best not to be coy with these sorts of things now.
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Unvote
Vote: Agriosgeorge
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agriosgeorge, on the other hand, is doing a fine job of posting enough to make him noticed, but not actually saying anything in his posts (related to finding scum at least).
So I'm fine with either one today (Vicer97 or agriosgeorge). I'm not sure about Gunner, but he hasn't triggered anymore warning bells with me today.
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Can you give us the alignment of people who are modkilled? I actually kinda like not having their role, but knowing if they were mafia or innocent would be nice.
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Just have the necromancer use "Autopsy" on Daemaro. Will tell us if Celebel is lying or not. Granted, there's a chance Celebel is lying... but it's unlikely. And it's way better than killing off Deckard Cain in the case that he's telling the truth.
EDIT: Also, off to bed. So I'll put this in case I'm not back until later:
Vote: Vicer97
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You might be right. And I suppose we have more than enough ways to try and prevent them from killing you... as long as we don't have too many people claiming.
As far as target for today, I would like people to consider Vicer97. As I said yesterday... the hiders to watch out for are the ones that talk a little, but just enough to stay under radar. Of course, that's if we don't have any better options come up.
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Well, we didn't need exactly that much detail. Probably didn't have to go so far as to claim. But thanks for the information. Of course, there's the chance the other person killed last night was Deckard Cain, but I'm willing to believe you for now.
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Don't pretend that there's some grand secret here Celebel. You made a vote and asked people to follow. Some did. Trying to ninja vote back to the person who has been afk this whole time served no purpose... at least not a scumhunting one.
Even if there was more to your less-than-elaborate "scumhunting"... it would serve more purpose to be honest and open about your votes and explain your reasoning. That way, if people DO change their behavior we can notice that.
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It is your problem, cause it's a bright, flashing scumtell. You didn't answer... you refused to answer. People who don't answer questions (or deflect them) are usually scum. If you're innocent, you should have no problem explaining why. Despite what you think, it won't spoil things at all. In fact, all it will do is lead to the game of "wine in front of me".
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And that's a problem.
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So you're Baal then?
Good to know...
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Why did you even try to ninja? What was your goal?