The problem I see with those opposing the original proposition is that you are not taking into account the decreased drop rate that we are asking for.
We're not asking for "OMG I WANT ALL LVL 60 ITEMS AND 10 OF THEM TO DROP ON EACH ELITE PACK LIKE RIGHT NOW!!! I WANT FREE ITEMSSSSSSSS"
We are asking for "wow, it sure would be nice to have items appropriate for my level, even if champ packs only dropped 3 items it would be better than the current system"
I could even suffice with my post on the 1st page, where ilvl 55-59 items still drop, but to a lesser degree with each act. Cut out the ilvl 51-54. It's garbage and not meant for "endgame"
Yeah, kind of like that. Though without knowing the current rates of <61 items I can't really compare.
Though people are saying that 61-63 items are dropping less now in Act III/IV than they did last patch, so maybe increase the rates to what they were before in Act III/IV? They'd have to do something about the rates in Acts I and II so that they don't become totally inferior to Act III/IV if they're kept the same, and also so they don't become superior to Act III/IV if they buff them.
You should always be farming what you can farm the most efficiently. Not what you're forced to farm because it's 10 times better than anything else.
Yea, I'm not sure how they have it currently. The way I set it up in that post is 50/50 60/40 70/30 chance to drop 60 and 55-59 items, respectively, in a1,2,3/4
Get an authenticator if you don't have one. It's 100% necessary with battle.net accounts.
I had the most random password ever and 8 months ago my unsubscribed WoW account was hacked and used to mine and sell ore. I got all of my items restored and had the chance to say hi to some old friends. After that, I got an authenticator for my phone and will always have one now.
If I'm reading this correctly, I have had this happen many times since 1.03.
I will be using frenzy on a bunch of enemies and quickly spam furious charge because I am about to die. The ability will not go off when I know I cast it in plenty of time and I will die.
There needs to be more options, if you ask me. Personally I would like them to cut out, say, the bottom five ilevels (so only 55-63 drops), and increase the drop rates of all the remaining ilevels to compensate.
If you just have 60-63 then you're gonna have a lot of high-dollar items flooding in, effectively lowering all the values of these items. Keeping some junk items in there, but lowering the amount of junk items, allows the really good stuff to still keep some value. Though, no matter how you do it, if you increase the drop rate of good items the value is going to drop.
I'm sure Blizzard will come up with a more elegant solution. They always seem to bring something out of nowhere that's better than anything I come up with.
Great post, aldrek. I definitely see your point and think it might be more in-line with a possible solution.
Lol right? That kid has to be doing crack or something, literally the only person I've heard try to make the argument that 3 filters is enough. Clearly it isn't.
Inserting 3 options yields 46 pages - the maximum number of search results allowable. Yea... need 6 options.
Been thinking this exact thing. Really wouldn't care if rares became much rarer as long as they were always level 60+.
Exactly. I think this is a concern that we should share with Blizzard after seeing some more votes. At the very least, I would like to see an answer regarding why it is the way it is. If there is such a reasoning my guess is that it has something to do with the economy, but being the end-game content, I truly dislike finding ilvl 51-59 items as the majority of the items I find.
Which would you prefer? I posted the following on the front page thread, but I find that those posts tend not to get much discussion.
What I don't understand is why INFERNO is dropping ilvl 51-59 items. I'd rather have LESS items drop off of champions that are of greater ilvl. For the sake of legendaries with ilvl 58-59, bump them up to ilvl 60 so they are viable in endgame (or have some sort of special code that allows lower level legendaries to still drop - I don't know programming, maybe this isn't possible).
A1 - mostly ilvl 60 items with incremental chance for ilvl 61, 62, 63 A2 - mostly ilvl 60, 61 items with incremental chance for ilvl 62, 63 A3/4 - mostly ilvl 60, 61, 62 items with incremental chance for ilvl 63
Incremental chance being the 2/4/8% that blizzard has recently implemented.
THAT is how I envision inferno drops should be... or something close at least. None of this sub-60 garbage
Add your 2c. I'm really interested to see what people think - would this cause unintended consequences that might ruin the economy? How might this change influence the game for the better or worse?
Edit: Here is another option, still including ilvl 55-59 items
What I don't understand is why INFERNO is dropping ilvl 51-59 items. I'd rather have LESS items drop off of champions that are of greater ilvl. For the sake of legendaries with ilvl 58-59, bump them up to ilvl 60 so they are viable in endgame (or have some sort of special code that allows lower level legendaries to still drop).
A1 - mostly ilvl 60 items with incremental chance for ilvl 61,62,63
A2 - mostly ilvl 60, 61 items with incremental chance for ilv l62, 63
A3/4 - mostly ilvl 60, 61, 62 items with incremental chance for ilvl 63
THAT is how I envision this should be... or something close at least. None of this sub-60 bullshit
Storm68, your stats and original spec are fine - just need to adjust playstyle. When you run into an arcane pack, you can't just stand in them and smash face. Kite and avoid until they have placed a few orbs and you are away from them > wotb > profit. When you wotb, be mindful to move a bit to keep an eye for more arcane sentries.
Nightmare + Arcane atm is VERY frustrating thanks to the bug where arcane can fear you indefinitely. On those I will use my original kiting as best as possible and then go absolutely balls to the wall on them when I can get them away (wotb breaks/ignores cc from nightmarish)
Waller also makes an arcane pack difficult - this is somewhere where leap attack might be > furious charge. Proper kiting and a descent wall spawn and you'll be fine with furious charge, though.
btw here are my stats (with war cry/battle rage) and I'm fine in A2
31846 hp
525-634 resists
22647.97 dps
17% crit chance
121% crit damage
1372 str
902 vit
201 mf (no nv)
1034 LoH
dual wielding 800 & 650 dps weapons
Hope this helps.
Edit: your hp is pretty low at 25k - try to get in the low-mid 30k range. A great way to do this is to buy weapons with +vit. My offhand has +300 vit
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I played 20 mins the other day and found 3x ilvl 63 items in Act2 that I sold for 6mil+
Played an hour later for about an hour and couldn't find a single item ilvl 61+
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We're not asking for "OMG I WANT ALL LVL 60 ITEMS AND 10 OF THEM TO DROP ON EACH ELITE PACK LIKE RIGHT NOW!!! I WANT FREE ITEMSSSSSSSS"
We are asking for "wow, it sure would be nice to have items appropriate for my level, even if champ packs only dropped 3 items it would be better than the current system"
I could even suffice with my post on the 1st page, where ilvl 55-59 items still drop, but to a lesser degree with each act. Cut out the ilvl 51-54. It's garbage and not meant for "endgame"
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Yea, I'm not sure how they have it currently. The way I set it up in that post is 50/50 60/40 70/30 chance to drop 60 and 55-59 items, respectively, in a1,2,3/4
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I had the most random password ever and 8 months ago my unsubscribed WoW account was hacked and used to mine and sell ore. I got all of my items restored and had the chance to say hi to some old friends. After that, I got an authenticator for my phone and will always have one now.
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I will be using frenzy on a bunch of enemies and quickly spam furious charge because I am about to die. The ability will not go off when I know I cast it in plenty of time and I will die.
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Great post, aldrek. I definitely see your point and think it might be more in-line with a possible solution.
Maybe have:
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Inserting 3 options yields 46 pages - the maximum number of search results allowable. Yea... need 6 options.
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I, too, am flabbergasted
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Exactly. I think this is a concern that we should share with Blizzard after seeing some more votes. At the very least, I would like to see an answer regarding why it is the way it is. If there is such a reasoning my guess is that it has something to do with the economy, but being the end-game content, I truly dislike finding ilvl 51-59 items as the majority of the items I find.
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Please add any/all of those to your post. This is an important issue that needs to be addressed by Blizzard.
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What I don't understand is why INFERNO is dropping ilvl 51-59 items. I'd rather have LESS items drop off of champions that are of greater ilvl. For the sake of legendaries with ilvl 58-59, bump them up to ilvl 60 so they are viable in endgame (or have some sort of special code that allows lower level legendaries to still drop - I don't know programming, maybe this isn't possible).
A1 - mostly ilvl 60 items with incremental chance for ilvl 61, 62, 63
A2 - mostly ilvl 60, 61 items with incremental chance for ilvl 62, 63
A3/4 - mostly ilvl 60, 61, 62 items with incremental chance for ilvl 63
Incremental chance being the 2/4/8% that blizzard has recently implemented.
THAT is how I envision inferno drops should be... or something close at least. None of this sub-60 garbage
Add your 2c. I'm really interested to see what people think - would this cause unintended consequences that might ruin the economy? How might this change influence the game for the better or worse?
Edit: Here is another option, still including ilvl 55-59 items
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A1 - mostly ilvl 60 items with incremental chance for ilvl 61,62,63
A2 - mostly ilvl 60, 61 items with incremental chance for ilv l62, 63
A3/4 - mostly ilvl 60, 61, 62 items with incremental chance for ilvl 63
THAT is how I envision this should be... or something close at least. None of this sub-60 bullshit
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Nightmare + Arcane atm is VERY frustrating thanks to the bug where arcane can fear you indefinitely. On those I will use my original kiting as best as possible and then go absolutely balls to the wall on them when I can get them away (wotb breaks/ignores cc from nightmarish)
Waller also makes an arcane pack difficult - this is somewhere where leap attack might be > furious charge. Proper kiting and a descent wall spawn and you'll be fine with furious charge, though.
btw here are my stats (with war cry/battle rage) and I'm fine in A2
31846 hp
525-634 resists
22647.97 dps
17% crit chance
121% crit damage
1372 str
902 vit
201 mf (no nv)
1034 LoH
dual wielding 800 & 650 dps weapons
Hope this helps.
Edit: your hp is pretty low at 25k - try to get in the low-mid 30k range. A great way to do this is to buy weapons with +vit. My offhand has +300 vit