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I just watched Quin69's video guide on Monk's U6 gameplay to "push" Greater Rift progression for the season. The sad word that I heard early on that made me sorta, mentally, give up on the Season is the fun word of "snapshot."

If you haven't watched the video, a brief description; Monks are being encouraged now to fish for a GR with a Power Pylon somewhere near to the beginning of the first level of the GR. So that when you use the Pylon, the Exploding Palm skill of the Monk takes a snapshot of the damage and then you continue to piggy back the EP to new mobs throughout the GR. Even though the Pylon has worn off, your EP on existing mobs is still reflective of the increased DPS and you continue to spread that EP for the rest of the clear.

Snapshotting was a thing in vanilla with Sweeping Wind and it made the game play feel as though you were only being effective if you could maximize a gimmick, or fault of the design, to progress.

Between this and knowing that to come anywhere near the top 200, 100 or even 50 on the Leader boards of any given Season, you have to play at least 8 hours a day, just farming Paragon points to get the damage increase from your main stat...it makes me sort of not want to continue playing in the Season.

There are a lot of fun things to do, build you character, get the gear, improve the gear to Ancient, etc. Build a different type of character, repeat the gear process. But what is the end result? Even with its faults, the AH/RMAH gave you another purpose to play, because you never knew when you would find that hot item to sell. The Leader boards give you another reason to play, except after a week, if you haven't played 10 hours a day - what's the point? So you make a build that maximizes experience gain and you drearily farm experience. So that when you are ready, you farm the perfect GR to use a gimmick to try and progress.

Not rewarding game play for me. I'm curious if it is for others? Clearly the streamers and many others enjoy trying to beat out some sort of rank on the Leader boards, but is it really that rewarding? Does it make you awesome that you spend 70 hours or more a week playing this game, so you can say "I got to rank 1 because I have thousands of Paragon levels and spent days looking for the perfect GR to gimmick my way to the top!"

I hope that Blizzard runs the risk of pissing off their popular streamers, by putting a cap on Paragon levels for Seasons and for removing the snapshot gimmick from all classes and skills. Snap shot the dps and simply code so the dps increase ends across all instances of where it appears after the appropriate amount of time has passed.

So if you make it to rank 1 in a season, it's because you found great gear and used your skill and gear to make it to the top.

Besides the RMAH comment which I just disagree with, I agree with the rest of your points;
Paragon needs some sort of power cap. You can continue to level, but I really think not having a cap on your main stat really hurts this game. I played the hell out of this season so far (just like every other season), but even though I've got a lot of ancient gear I'm miles behind because I haven't played 8 hours a day / botted. I personally think P800 should be the power cap, with additional levels giving maybe gold find (which is supposed to be worth something next patch anyway).
Also the snapshotting thing is just a facet in the larger problem of exploits. Look at all those streamers on the top of the leaderboards. They're ALL exploiting the hellfire problem, and abusing mechanics such as the one you mentioned. Now this is going to happen probably every season considering those tools go on to the PTR JUST to find these exploits, hide them and use them when the season starts, but I really hope Blizzard can jump on these problems sooner. It's been like two weeks for the hellfire thing and still going.
So while the gameplay is rewarding for me personally, I absolutely cut my play time by ~90% after the hellfire exploit came out, and a hotfix didn't. And look at that Gabynator screenshot, someone's (maybe his) toon is at like paragon 1,2xx. He's got over two thousand more main stat. It doesn't matter how hard I try, that's such a huge gap I'm not going to beat it, the numbers aren't there.
Anyway, rant over. Mostly agreed OP. Hopefully we can see some changes.

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I think 3 new classes would be great, 1 each for Str/Dex/Int.

While I'd love three classes, so I'm not responding to that, I did want to point out that having an equal number of classes for each main stat doesn't matter anymore. Before smart loot, it absolutely mattered because having 3 classes use strength meant you'd find more strength items than anything else.

Now that we've got smart loot, it doesn't matter if there's 19 classes with Strength and only 2 classes for int and dex, because 15% of your loot is random, and no matter how many main stats they add, 85% of your loot will always smart loot to you.

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RIP English

btw, that is a "moob"?

Pointing out a typo while using another typo.... internet justice at it's finest.

"What is a moob". Not "That is a moob".

.....and he meant "mob", obviously. Your name even has the word "spell" in it.

What a weird series of events.

If you're gonna correct someone atleast make sure you yourself aren't making the same mistake.

Correct use is "its".

It's = It is

If you're gonna correct someone for correcting someone, AT LEAST spell "at least" correctly.

This is getting downright hilarious.

This is why I hate grammar cops. We're on a forum, and IT'S (<<<proper conjunction?) common for people to make mistakes and not notice. I hated to point out the guy above making a mistake, but he was asking for it.

Please understand, I'm hoping we all keep our sense of humor about this. Is my post correct? I better proofread it.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Pretty sure you meant going to instead of gonna.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa omg L2types

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You have 1000 legs, and 99% os the players will only use FURNACE, HEXING PANTS AND OBSIDIAN. The rest will be joke builds for "fun"

You lack vision.

I feel like you should've added 'my child' to the end of that =D

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you can SAY/PRONOUNCE it easily

but not in game chat, where time does matter

kk and kkk is ok, just deal with it

If time matters, then saying 14k / 14M / 14B is faster.

Just deal with it.

Yep agreed. In vanilla, 1m crits were awesome for me, and maybe full party buffed 5m. Within one expansion, we're now at where 1B crits are pretty normal, with 5-10B being the huge buffed ones.

I REALLY don't want to see numbers in the trillions. Number crunch that shit naow blizzard, it's already too insane.

At first, I was pretty much just interested to see what changes were made to D3 by Blizzard in regards to moving a pc-based game to the console.

I must say that I am INCREDIBLY impressed overall! With only about 10 hours logged into a game in which I have played copious hours for my Mac, I have compiled a short list of things that I am very pleased with and I believe positive feedback is sorely missing from these forums so I decided to create an account with the forums and post to share some positive light. :Thumbs Up:

• Controls - I LOVE the complete control over my character!! I can't emphasize enough how great it feels to be able to lock on to my target and then move away when those nasty fireballs are on their way to me without clicking the other side of the screen! I am a HUGE fan and think the evasive controls are an amazing touch, thank you!
• UI - My background is in User Experience and Information Architecture and I am again, incredibly impressed by how well the interface was created for the console. You could tell that Blizzzard developers did their homework and a lot of usability studies to make the game feel as if it were a first class, first thought to develop from the console. Probably a great benefit from having separate dev teams as you get a more diverse and open mindset than just asking people from the PC/Mac world to port something over.
• Loot - I am getting excited again about gear! I no longer have to drop USD (because I'm lazy) and get amazing legendary items and sets. It would only really cost me about $5 to be completely outfitted at level 60 to play inferno MP 5 to a comfortable paragon level. This just feels more rewarding; in fact, I got into work this morning and couldn't wait to tell my buddy that (at level 18) a legendary quiver with very useful stats dropped for my DH! That's the part of the game that really gets me excited. I do wish, however that I could pull up my toon on an amory of sorts to take a look at his gear and show friends whilst away from the game. I love me some good meta-game.
• Difficulty - There are so many ways to customize the difficulty of the game and tune it to where you feel comfortable and the risk -> rewards. Not only are there the standard levels (normal, nightmare, hell, inferno +MP), there are also fine tuned difficulties (easy, medium, hard), and yet combine that with adding more players to your party and the combinations are quite many!
• Content - The only downer as someone who played the game for the Mac for so long. I don't expect new content or lore since its the same game from a story-line aspect...but had I known day 1 that this game was coming out for the console, I would have just waited and bought it then. **Who am I kidding...I wouldn't wait a year, Blizzard got me good...I have bought the game three full times now, twice for me, and once for a kid I coach as part of a bet I lost**
• Local Multiplayer Experience - I am so far impressed with this. I can just be lazy and go make a drink while my friends wander the world or do things in town and my toon will stay on the screen and keep up on his own. The loot sharing can be a bit hairy if you have multiple toons who could benefit from dropped gear. It would be nice to see in my inventory how well an item might compare for a member of my party so we can make better decisions about who the item best suits. Right now that process takes a fair amount of manual labor and impedes game progress. At least the loot is more meaningful and not as cluttered in terms of the amount of things that drop so we aren't in our inventory screens as much as we might have been on the PC/Mac.
• Online Experience - I have only played one game online so far and I think it works out very well. It is just like the PC/Mac version except for some very cool buffs! I love the ability to fine tune the group you are looking for based on some important criterion; such as key warden, brawling, killing things, or challenges, which are synonymous with PC/Mac achievements but may net you some pretty cool trophies on the ps3 if you are into that sort of thing, and I suspect I will be as I will want to get as close to a total 100% as possible.

What other things are you guys noticing out there that the console exposes or improves?

I have noticed that my spec changed (so far) in that I don't even bother on my DH to spec into Vault as the evasive maneuvers get me the distance I need to stay alive in a pinch and can therefore spec into more DPS and CC abilities that suit my tastes.

Thanks Blizzard for making a game that I enjoyed playing for a while, feel even better! The visuals are good, and the sound on my 7.1 system is AMAZING! There is nothing like smashing a foe across the screen and feeling it in your gut...poor neighbors!

In general, I was pretty happy about the teaser information provided about the Reaper of Souls expansion but a recent post by Grimiku regarding adjustments to existing skills made me much more optimistic.

We think the expansion is a great time for it, so we'll be giving all of the existing classes (Barbarian, Demon Hunter, Monk, Witch Doctor, and Wizard) skill updates in Reaper of Souls. We're looking to make adjustments that improve the experience for skills that are currently underused, or have balance issues. These changes will likely be part of the pre-expansion patch, but new skills will require players to purchase the expansion to access them.

Source: http://us.battle.net...09306?page=2#30

Of all the classes the wizard is by far my favorite. I wanted to parse through her existing skills, runes and passives and make suggestions on how they could be tweaked (and in some cases, totally revamped) to encourage build diversity. By necessity this review will be from a hardcore perspective as that is all I have played in D3, having gotten hooked on hardcore in D2. But with a few exceptions I think most of the comments here translate well to softcore.

While I don't have the data Blizzard has regarding which skills are used the least, it is pretty easy to guess. Other than two basic builds--permanent Archon and CM--no wizard builds are considered endgame viable. Blue posts have said (can't find the reference) that of all the classes wizards (and barbs) have the least skill diversity. Thus there is a lot of work to do here. At the same time there is are great opportunities for improvement.

For all of the proposed changes I'm going to avoid giving exact percentages in terms of weapon damage. I assume that all those numbers will have to be tweaked in RoS and I don't have the data about changes to other combat systems to suggest values for these percentages. Where appropriate I will note when a skill should do more or less damage (relative to the other skills) than is currently the case now.

And yes, this is long. Very, very long. But this is our opportunity to start a discussion that could influence how wizards play in the expansion. I hope people can add their thoughts here and some of the ideas will eventually be noticed by Blizzard.

Primary Skills
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Of all the different active skill groups, primary/signature skills need the most severe changes. It is safe to say that the original design--that wizards alternate between regenerating arcane power while using signature skills and nuking things with stored arcane power--is a failure. The two viable builds both cicumvent the AP mechanic completely. Skills in archon form don't use AP and CM builds have enough APoC to never have to really worry about AP. Other than one rune of one skill (Living Lightning) neither build uses a signature skill at all.

This is not the case with other classes. For example, Monks have no issues using Fists of Thunder/Thunderclap as part of many builds. Why is this? Because in addition to help with resource creation, the skills also have utility. The idea here is to make it so that players don't look exclsively for ways to not use signature skills but to give reasons that they would want to.

Given that AP regeneration isn't enough of a reason to use a signature skill, the first suggested change to all of the signature skills is to bake in any AP generation runes into the base skill. The hope is that it makes them viable alternatives to stacking APoC and CHC in every build.

___Magic Missile___

Of the four signature skills, magic missile suffers the most. In addition to the AP generation issues described previously, Magic Missile also has the dreaded single target problem. Single target skills in D3 are most often weaker than AOE skills because the task at hand is most often to destroy hordes of monsters, not individual ones. Therefore the propsed changes to Magic Missile are the most severe.

The base magic missile spell should be changed to include the effect of the Seeker rune. This gives Magic Missile some utility the same way Hungering Arrow works for Demon Hunters. Additionally, as noted above, Magic Missile would automatically return some AP on hit so the Attunement rune can be replaced. The amount of AP returned can vary based on rune choice.

Charged Blast

Modified to increase the damage of Magic Missile and gives it a small chance to stun the target. Combined with Temporal Flux, this would give Charged Blast some much needed utility. Other changes (such as making it explode on impact) make it too much like Arcane Orb. I'm still skeptical that even with these changes (generating AP, seeking, small chance to stun) that anyone would use it but at least the potential is there.

Split

No change here other than the overall changes--seeking and AP generation. Each missile could seek a different target. The AP generation per hit would have to be reduced to account for the multiple hits.

Penetrating Blast

If this is to work like Hungering Arrow the penetration chance has to be reduced or the number of targets an indvidual missile can hit needs to be capped. AP generation per hit would of course have to be adjusted based on the maximum number of targetst that could be hit. But again, a single missile that seeks targets, penetrates, and bounces between them at least has some potential for use.

Ice Shard

The Attunement rune is unneeded since all casts of signature spells would generate AP. In its place would be Ice Shard. Ice Shard would change the missile into a sliver of ice that explodes on impact doing a small amount of damage to nearby targets. More importantly, the damage type is naturally changed to cold damage, giving wizards a much needed cold-based signature ability. The potential interactions with Cold Blooded would promote build diversity. Note that the shard would still seek and gerneate a little AP, as dicated by the changes to the base skill.

Heat Seeker

Seeker is also replaced as its effect is included in the base skill. Its replacement is Heat Seeker. Heat Seeker changes the missile into a small fire ball that tracks down the nearest target. Again, interactions with Conflagration could allow for more build diversity. I still am not sure it would be of use if it is still strictly single target but the proposed changes (seeking, AP generation, fire damage) is a decent start.

___Shock Pulse___

Shock Pulse is in a slightly better place than Magic Missile as it does AOE damage. But other than the use of Living Lightning as a Critical Mass or APoC generator, Shock Pulse is not part of any viable wizard builds.

Explosive Bolts

Explosive Bolts is actually one of my favorite wizard skills but I'm forced to stop using it come endgame. The biggest problem is one shared by a number of skills--the interesting proc is basically negated in group play. With other classes nuking groups of monsters the chances of getting the actual killing blow is too low. Ideally this should be changed to say "Enemies damaged by Explosive Bolts explode when slain."

Fire Bolts

No thematic changes here but it is my understanding the Fire Bolts don't actually do fire damage and thus don't interact with Conflagration. Obviously this oversight should be corrected.

Piercing Orb

I'm not exactly sure how to change Piercing Orb to make it desirable in endgame builds. The path of the orb, while visually interesting, makes it hard to use. Simple changes could include making it easier to hit desired targets and increasing damage done but suggestions welcome.

Lightning Nova

The old Lightning Affinity is unneeded with the change that all signature skills generate some amount of AP. Replacing it would be Lightning Nova, which changes the skill to create a lightning pulse that radiates out from the wizard in a complete circle. This is a shout out to the D2 skill nova, which was one of my personal favorites. Lightning Nova would give "melee wizards" an interesting choice of a signature skill.

Living Lightning

Again no thematic changes. In general, the conjured beings should do more damage and proc effects less, to give other signature skills a chance to compete. The beings should also last longer as an increase in range would help distinquish this rune from the other Shock Pulse runes.

___Spectral Blade___

Of all the wizard signature skills, Spectral Blade is probably in the best place. The fact that it transfers weapon damage to the blades has the potential for interesting interactions with other skills and passives. Clearly it isn't quite good enough, as except for novelty builds, spectral blades is rarely utilized.

Deep Cuts

The idea here is fine. Maybe an increase in overall damage (initial and bleed) would make this rune more attractive and a go to choice for melee wizards looking for good damage from a signature skill. That combined with the baked in AP generation might make it viable.

Impactful Blades

Again, good concept but not enough utility to make anyone actually use it. The slow effect should last longer than 1 second and affect attack/casting speed as well as movement.

Siphoning Blade

Same name, different effect. Siphoning Blade now draws in enemies struck in the same way Cyclone Strike works for a monk. This would give a melee wizard a skill choice that allows her to cluster enemies for a follow-up attack.

Healing Blades

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

Thown Blade

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

___Electrocute___

Despite have good range and good AOE, Electrocute in inferno is a rare sight. I was tempted to suggest that all runes of Electrocute include the effects of Chain Lightning by default but the interactions with some of the existing runes didn't make sense. But clearly changes are needed.

Chain Lightning

No real change. The proc rate on Paralysis needs to be improved. The hope is that with increased proc chance and AP generation, Chain Lightning becomes attactive enough to be considered.

Heat Lightning

Forked Ligntning is removed to allow for a more interesting effect. Heat Lightning changes the damage type of Electrocute to both fire and lightning damage allowing it to take advantage of both Paralysis and Conflagration. It should also increase the damage done to allow it to compete with the other runes which hit more targets.

Lightning Blast

No change (other than the default AP generation of all signature skills).

Ice Rift

Surge of Power isn't needed because of the automatic AP generation. Ice Rift causes spikes of ice to snake along the ground (in a similar path to lightning) causing cold damage to all enemies impacted. This gives ranged wizards a cold primary to work with Cold Blooded.

Arc Lightning

No thematic change--I wouldn't want to mess with people's ability to role play the dark side. That said, it needs to do a bit more damage.

Secondary Skills
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Other than Distegrate and a few runes choices, the Secondary Skills are grossly under used in endgame builds. A number of changes are necessary to make them attactive enough choices.

___Ray of Frost___

Patch changes to Ray of Frost have made it more used in the case of the Black Ice rune. Additional rune changes would promote build diversity.

Numb

Given the single target nature of Ray of Frost, the mild increase in slow amount from 60% to 80% is way too insignificant to make this rune a viable choice. The effects need to either last longer, include attack/cast speed reductions, and/or give a chance to freeze the target in place. Some combination of those changes would make Ray of Frost have enough crowd control ability to be interesting. (Though using the term crowd control on a single target spell is tenuous, at best.)

Snow Blast

Decent thematic effect but needs to do more damage. Let Snow Blast be the single target nuke for bosses, elites and ubers but to be a real choice it needs absolutely wreck single targets.

Cold Blooded

In the original D3 beta / notes, Cold Blooded reduced the cost of Ray of Frost to zero, not ten. I suggest it should reduce the cost to somewhere in between, making it more cost neutral when balanced against AP regeneration. Furthermore, Cold Blooded should be considered a signature spell and allow interaction with Prodigy and Arcane Dynamo.

Sleet Storm

No signficant changes needed as Sleet Storm does enough damage that a few experimental builds use it. The biggest problems with Sleet Storm is that getting hit often interrupts the channel. Suggested changes include making the wizard resistant to interrupt while channeling and increasing the radius of the storm. If that isn't enough to make it viable, allowing the wizard to move (at a reduced rate ala unruned whirlwind) could be considered.

Black Ice

No changes in single player are really needed. Black Ice builds are one of the few current choices that can compete with Archon / CM builds. However, in group play Black Ice suffers greatly as it is very hard to get a killing blow when group members are raining down death and destruction with AOE abilities. Therefore the description should be changed to read "Enemies damaged with Ray of Frost leave a patch of ice when they die that..."

___Arcane Orb___

On paper Arcane Orb should be fine. In practice you never see Arcane Orb in inferno--I think I've seen one random wizard using Celestial Orb in hours and hours of inferno farming. The basic problem is damage per AP cost. If the concept is wizards build AP via signature skills and then nuke using other skills then Arcane Orb needs to really hurt when it hits. The base damage of Arcane Orb needs to increase and/or the cost needs to decrease.

Obliteration

With a name like Obliteration it needs to do signficant damage. A simple change here, increase the damage done relative to signature skills signficantly.

Arcane Orbit

A cool concept with poor execution. The orbs need to orbit with a larger radius to be useful. As it is now, monsters have to be right next to you in order to trigger the explosion. And of course the explosions need to do more damage.

Arcane Nova

If base damage has been increased and cost decreased then the larger area of effect granted by this rune should be enough to make it viable.

Tap the Soruce

Again a good idea but too limited in scope. Really reduce the AP cost here and encourage a gun slinging build where the wizard covers the screen in arcane orbs. If that isn't enough, sucessful strikes could trigger a mild resource generation boost in nearby party members.

Celestial Orb

Once again if base damage is increased and cost decreased then this rune should be more viable.

___Arcane Torrent___

One of the runes of Arcane Torrent (Arcane Mines) is very close to being viable and another (Death Blossom) has been included in a novelty build. A few small tweaks should hopefully make Arcane Torrent a legitimate choice.

Distruption

A good concept that clearly doesn't go far enough to make people use it. Obvious potential changes include increasing the duration and the additional damage granted by the debuff. It should be made clear that additional hits from the same channel take adavantage of the debuff. With improvements to other arcane based skills hopefully Distruption becomes more viable.

Death Blossom

There's no arguing that Death Blossom doesn't do tons of damage but the targeting is so sporatic it is generally considered not worth the skill slot. Suggested changes include larger area of effect of each individual hit (giving a greater coverage area) and possibly allowing the wizard to move while she channels Death Blossom.

Arcane Mines

Arcane Mines is actually semi-viable in a few builds. I've used it enough in key farming runs to both like it and be very frustrated by it. Two changes are necesary. One, the arming period needs to be removed. In group play, the monsters are often dead before the arming period finishes. Two, the trigger radius needs to be slightly increased. As it stands, a monster needs to walk directly over the mine to trigger it--monsters seem to walk 1/4 yard away from the mine unharmed.

Power Stone

Good thematic concept but in practice the 2% proc rate (I think) just makes this rune go unchosen. Suggested changes include increasing the proc rate and giving power stones grant health in addition to arcane power.

Cascade

Again on paper this seems like it should work, especially if the new missile explodes with AOE damage like the original missile. I'm somewhat at a loss as to why it doesnt work. The description suggests that every enemy struck in the orignal blast should fire off a missile of their own. Is the area of effect just too small? Open to suggestions here.

___Distengrate___

Distengrate comes the closest to actually competing with Archon/CM builds. Unfortunately only in combination with Blizzard and Cold Blooded but Disentegrate probably needs the fewest changes of any of the Secondary Skills. To the base skill a minor increase in damage and/or reduction in AP cost would be good.

Divergence

I just have to change the name of the Convergence rune since it actually widens the beam not narrows it. Overall the effect is fine.

Chaos Nexus

No real change needed outside of a possible increase in damage of the secondary beams.

Volatility

A small tweak to the radius of the explosion would make this rune compete well with Divergence. Additionally the explosion needs to triggered if the enemy is killed while being struck by the beam, even if the killing blow comes from another player.

Entropy

On paper this rune should be fine but the lack of use suggest otherwise. Suggested improvement include increasing the size of the arc, increasing the damage and/or decreasing the AP cost.

Intensify

Again I don't know of any builds that suggest Intensify over other Disentegrate runes. The only thought that spings to mind is moar damage but more creative solutions appreciated.

Defensive Skills
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Along with the Conjuration Skills, the Defensive Skills are by far the most successfully designed skills. A few tweaks are needed to address lesser used runes but overall major changes are not required.

___Frost Nova___

A staple of many builds, Frost Nova needs little in the way of changes. To save space, only the one rune needing attention will be listed.

Frozen Mist

Of all the runes, only Frozen Mist is rarely (never?) suggested. The obvious suggestion would be to increase the damage done but it is unclear if that is enough to make it viable. Another possibility is increasing the radius of the area of effect.

___Diamond Skin___

A useful skill, even without the consideration of infinite duration due to Critical Mass. Given that interaction should be nerfed (sorry guys, but you know it is happening), a very small tweak to the spell is in order. The damage absorbed should scale in some small way with the wizard's power (meaning damage done). This would of course include Crystal Shell. Other than that, all of the runes are viable and well designed.

___Slow Time___

As with other Defensive Skills, Slow Time is well designed and needs only a few changes. Overall I would suggest the reduction of enemy attack speed be bumped up just a little. Only the runes requiring attention will be listed.

Miasma

Of all the runes, Miasma is one of two that I never see suggested even in less popular builds. The obvious change would be to increase the duration to something longer than 3 seconds but more creative solutions would be ideal. Suggestions?

Time Shell

The improvment in movement speed reduction isn't enough to make this rune attractive compared to the other runes. The change here is signficant but the name can remain the same. Time Shell now allows the warb bubble to move with the caster, ala the slow time effect under Archon.

___Teleport___

Ahh Teleport. The only skill I can think of that was nerfed into the ground because of the overpowered nature of the legacy skill from D2. In general teleport is fine but overall the wizard feels sluggish compared to the other classes. Some improvements are definitely in order. The first would be lowering the cooldown from the rather ridiculous 16 seconds. It was clear that the original D3 developers didn't want a wizard skipping content at will like a D2 sorc could. Hopefully the new development team will be more reasonable. Only the runes requiring adjustment are listed.

Wormhole

If the overall cooldown on Teleport is lowered, the usefulness of Wormhole is diminshed. A quick fix would be to increase the delay to greater than 1 second but that might be problematic.

Reveral

In theory I love this rune. In practice the problem is I've usually teleported because the ground I was standing on was being covered by some nasty elite effect and the last thing I want to do is go back to that spot. Open to suggestions here, but I really do like the concept.

Calamity

Again on paper this seems to promote interesting builds where a wizard teleports into monsters instead of away from them. But even CM wizards (who often do just that) don't pick this rune. My initial thought would be to have the Wave of Force also stun, but suggestion welcome here, too.

Force Skills
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Overall the Force Skills are a mixed bag. Some skill/rune choices are commonly used, others are never seen. Therefore a combination of buffs and nerfs is required to promote more interesting build choices.

___Wave of Force___

I'll be honest--I love Wave of Force. The concept, the graphical effect, everything. Unfortunately even that isn't enough for me to pick it in any build come endgame, though I try to use it when leveling just because. Overall the effects of the Force Affinity rune should be incorporated in the base skill. As it stands, Wave of Force has too long of a cooldown and costs too much to cast.

Impactful Wave

No change needed other than the reduction to cost and cooldown of the base skill.

Force Field

With Force Affinity gone, this rune can take its place. Force Field cast a normal Wave of Force and than surrounds the wizard with a personal shield that absorbs some damage (ala Diamond Skin) for a few seconds. This make Force Field an ultimate "oh sh!t" button.

Forceful Wave

In addition to the reduction in cooldown and cost, this rune needs to do more damage. If it is less defensive (less knockback) it needs to do a lot more damage to compete with any actual damage abilities.

Teleporting Wave

A cool thematic idea but yikes--why would I want to put monsters in random locations? (And how is this better or even equal to increasing the knockback distance and stunning them like Impactful Wave?) One bizarre suggestion is that it has a chance to teleport non-elite/bosses hit by the wave into non-existance. You don't get XP from killing them but they can't kill you. Other than that, open to suggestions but as it stands this rune needs major work / replacement.

Exploding Wave

Again a good concept. My fear is the secondary waves could knock mobs back into me but that is a minor concern. Hopefully with the reduction in cooldown and cost this is viable. Or pehaps the chance of a secondary waves and/or the damage they do needs to be increased.

___Energy Twister___

Energy Twister is a split personality skill in that one rune (Wicked Wind) is a staple in CM builds and all the other runes are hardly ever used, if at all. The fundamental problem is that targeting this skill (with the notable exception of Wicked Wind) is sufficently random and frustrating that no one uses it. In general then the path of the twisters needs to be more linear so that the player can at least try to target what monsters are hit.

Mistral Breeze

Not a bad rune but the cost reduction needs to be even lower to make it a candiate for consideration. Let Minstral Breeze builds cover the screen in twisters.

Gale Force

Hopefully with the more linear pathing this rune becomes more viable. Damage can always be tweaked upward if further modifications are necessary.

Raging Storm

For this rune to work, the pathing of the individual twisters would have to remain more random so that collisions are possible. But the merged tornado needs to last much longer and do more damage since it is basically impossible to target the spawn location. Even then I have my doubts anyone would pick this.

Wicked Wind

No change needed (and the pathing change to the base skill does not apply here) as Wicked Wind is already a go to skill for CM wizards. Depending on how CM is adjusted, a reduction in proc rate is warranted.

Storm Chaser

When the decription to a skill requires an abstract, you know there's an issue. Clearly the combination of the complicated mechanics coupled with the poor damage--the "giant Energy Twister" does less damage than a normal one--make this a rare build choice. If the effect is deemed interesting enough to keep then the damage per Wind Charge needs to be massively buffed.

___Hydra___

It is my suspicion that Hydra was designed in anticipation of PvP. Given that the spirit of Diablo is PvP considerations shouldn't effect skill design, I'm going to suggest massive changes in Hydra to make it cool again. Hydra was by far my favorite spell in D2 and the neutered version we got in D3 isn't cutting it. Furthermore the each-rune-is-an-element design works much better when elemental damage meant something.

The first major change is that a wizard can now have three active hydra instead of one. Damage of course would have to be adjusted downward to take this into account. The damage done (by all three hydra) should be enough to make it the major nuke of a wizard. I want the ability to design Hydra wizard builds, not have it relegated to being a support only skill. Having three "pets" out works for Zombie Dogs, it should work for Hydra especially with the requirement that wizards have to spend three casts to get three Hydra out and the Hydra are not permanent.

The second major change involved Hydra damage scaling. The current scaling mechanics are confusing. Hydra cast speed is not affected by the wizard's attack speed, but damage per bolt is increased to scale with attack speed. Hydra cannot crit however and don't take advantage of CHC or CHD. Um, why? Hydra should cast faster (and last less time) with increased attack speeed. Right now a Hydra fires 15 bolts in 15 seconds. Keep the max bolts fired at 15 and when that's done, the Hydra disappears. They should also be able to crit and take advantage of CHC and CHD so that they scale properly. Currently improper scaling makes them unused in endgame builds.

Arcane Hydra

The interaction between Arcane Hydra with Distruption and Temporal Flux is interesting enough to keep the change in element type. No further changes required.

Volatile Hydra

This rune replaces Venom Hydra (and is granted earlier, where Lightning Hydra use to be). Volatile Hydra leave a pool on the ground like Venom Hydra use to but this pool is a fire pool. This allows easier interactions with Conflagration.

Frost Hydra

This rune is now granted earlier, too, in the same spot at the old Venom Hydra. Given the ability to cast 3 of them, this rune should be a viable choice to blanketing the field in frost for the slowing effect and/or interactions with Cold Blooded.

Enduring Hydra

This rune is granted when Frost Hydra use to be. Enduring Hydra do fire based damage. At the end of its duration an Enduring Hydra doesn't disappear--it splits into two smaller hydra that are randomly positioned nearby. These spawned Hydra continue to cast for an additional set period of time.

Unbound Hydra

Unbound Hydra are smaller versions of normal hydra. They do less damage than their runed counterparts. But there can be up to a dozen unbound hydra active at any one time. Basically Unbound Hydra lets someone design a real Hydra wizard. They must pay the penalty of having to spend most of their casting time summoning hydra but Hydra becomes their main damage dealing spell.

___Meteor___

Even with tweaks to casting cost and impact delay you don't see many meteor wizard builds in inferno. A modiciation to the standard CM build replaces Explosive Blast with Meteor, generally Meteor Shower. But if we can assume CM wizards are getting, um, adjusted in RoS, then Meteor needs more attention to be viable.

Overall Meteor doesn't do enough damage to justify the AP cost and impact delay. Thematically it should remaing the huge, heavy hitter in a wizard's arsenal. Therefore damage should increase but it can remain expensive. Additionaly proc chance should increase. Meteor is one of those skills that really needs to proc APoC to be viable. The rune choices are actually decent and only those requiring changes are listed.

Star Pact

A further reduction in AP cost is warranted. If this is the "cheap to cast" version of meteor, then make it actually cheap enough so people pick it to design a build around.

Meteor Shower

I feel the damage is too low in relation to the other Meteor runes.

Liquefy

The requirement that the initial impact crits seems an uncessary burden. If Molten Impact can flat out increase the damage, then Liquefy can simply increase the molten fire duration.

___Blizzard___

The frustration that people have with Blizzard (the skill, not the company) is that it is designed as more of a support skill and not a skill you can design a build around. The main use of Blizzard is to trigger Cold Blooded so that Disentegrate does enough damage. While that was a creative combination of skills, it is rather disappointing that is the only real use.

The first main change suggested for Blizzard it to let it stack. Stacking Blizzard would still have a built in penalty--you can't chill something twice. But damage stacking would allow people to make Blizzard their main nuke and cast it as often as possible. Other classes, notable the Witch Doctor, have large AOE nukes you can spam. Blizzard would be no different and thus the concept is not unbalanced. (If the damage boost Blizzard received in a previous patch needs to be revisited and adjusted because of this then so be it.)

The second major change is to allow Blizzard to proc other effects. Currently its proc chance is bizarrely set at 0.01. Allowing it to have a non-negligible chance to proc APoC would support Blizzard spamming builds.

The exisitng rune choices for Blizzard are decent and only the ones needing comments are listed.

Grasping Chill

This is the one rune for Blizzard no one seems to take. This is because Blizzard already slows and after 6 seconds of Blizzard most things are dead or people simply cast another one. This rune is crying out for complete replacement but suggestions welcome.

Unrelenting Storm

On paper this seems useful but again in practice very few builds suggest using it. Maybe a slight increase in damage per time (in addition to the increased duration) would be enough to make it viable.

Conjuration Skills
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Conjuration Skills are one of the more successfully designed groups. A few of the runes are rarely used (and a few overused), however, and could use some adjustements.

___Ice Armor___

In general Ice Armor has a decent design. The problem is more that Energy Armor is too good in comparison. That said, a few of the runes are weaker than the rest.

Chilling Aura

This can be used to proc Cold Blooded for melee opponents. But only slowing the movement speed by 30% to mobs that are already close enough to hit you is pretty pointless. Either attack speed should be affected or the radius of the effect needs to be increased.

Crystallize

This seems to be a signficant boost to armor but again Energy Armor is generally chosen here. A slight buff to the armor bonus might help matters.

Frozen Storm

I don't understand this rune. The damage is flat out horrible for the AP cost so spamming it makes little sense. It was used way back when to break destructibles with GF/MF before that was nerfed. If the concept is to make an offensive damage rune for an armor, the damage greatly needs to increase and/or the AP cost deceased.

__Storm Armor___

Storm Armor is pretty good as it is. It serves its purpose well--being a choice for an offensive based armor. Dangerous to run in hardcore but that is as it should be. Only a couple of the runes require comments.

Thunder Storm

The minor increase in damage from 100% to 130% isn't near enough to encourage people to take this over other runes. I would suggest instead a signficant increase in the firing rate.

Scramble

A cool idea but I believe the movement speed cap still affects this, so if you have MS on items--which almost everyone does--this becomes a niche rune.

___Magic Weapon___

Boring name, great skill. Two of the runes are very common in many builds...the rest, not so much. The "magic" of course is that affects base weapon damage and is mulitplied by other skills.

Quicken

In comparison to the 10% base weapon damage boost, the 30% additional weapon damage (not base) granted by Electrify isn't very signficant. I don't know of any builds that suggested it over Force Weapon or Blood Magic. Therefore it is replaced by Quicken, which increases attack speed by a small amount, but enough to be interesting.

Conduit

You hear this mentioned occasionally but only have a chance to restore 1 AP per attack seems rather weak, especially considering one meteor costs 50AP and is considered 1 attack.

Empower

The old Venom rune was also weak and never used. In its place I suggest Empower. Empower treats a small percentage of Strength on items to be treated as Intelligence for the purposes of boosting wizard damage. The percentage would have to be small but would let items with a little Strength be useful to melee wizards.

___Familiar___

In practice one of the familiars is common (Sparkflint) and the rest are used only in gimick builds to not at all.

Vigoron

The fixed amount of life regen is the problem here. Once you boost life to high levels, 620 life per second just isn't enough to justify picking Vigoron over Sparkflint. If this regen amount could scale with health(and level), then it would be more interesting.

Ancient Guardian

This rune has even been buffed but I don't know of many builds that suggest using it. Adjustments to it that would make it help surviving elite attacks would help but I'm not exactly sure how to do that without making it OP. Suggestions?

Arcanot

Cool concept but again not sure this is widely used. Maybe a slight boost to the AP regen rate would be enough.

Cannoneer

I don't think the damage here is enough to justify the skill slot--especially compared to Sparkflint. It would have to be changed significantly to compete and scale properly.

___Energy Armor___

By far the most common armor used in hardcore. The problem is that the two primary wizard builds don't care about AP so running with 80 instead of 100 makes little difference to them. But try running a Disentegrate / Blizzard build with 80 AP... The trick would be making people want to consider other armors but at the same time making Energy Armor viable for builds not named Archon or CM. I'm not exactly sure how to accomplish this so hopefully people smarter than I can tell me how.

Absorption

This rune effect fits well with the Energy Armor theme but I think most people pick other runes. Maybe the chance is too low?

Force Armor

This rune went from the only choice in inferno to never used after it was nerfed. The problem is with good armor and resistances most attacks don't hit me for > 35% of my health so this rune never fires.

Prismatic Armor

Even after the resistance boost has been nerfed, this is this the go to armor for hardcore. I hate to suggest another nerf but I don't know how to change that. Saddling every hardcore build with 80 AP (and the effective loss of a skill slot) because they have no choice but to take Prismatic Armor is very very bad for build diversity.

Mastery Skills
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___Explosive Blast___

A heavily used spell but only because of the CM wizard build. That said it doesn't really require any tweaks. Chain Reaction is obviously the most popular but the other choices are decent. (And adjustments to proc rates could help balance that out further.)

___Mirror Image___

Mirror Image is fantastic in concept but only so-so in execution. While usedful, especially soloing, it just isn't useful enough to replace teleport, diamond skin, frost nova as a defensive skill...at least most of the time.

The main problem I have found is that the images don't attack and certainly don't distract monsters as well as they should. When I summon five duplicates and they mill around behind me while I am getting pounded by an elite, well, I soon change my spec back to something cookie cutter. The fact that it is the only spell to break out of frozen is not enough to save it. On top of that, some of the runes are poorly designed.

Simularcum

I've never had an issue with my images dying so boosting the health is not very attactive.

Mocking Demise

Mirror Image isn't cast to do damage and the damage done here is to small to be change that.

Extension of Will

The duration boost is nice but the increase in life from 25% to 29% is laughable.

Mirror Mimics

The minor damage couple with the fact that the images often stand around not casting makes this rune choice unappealing.

Overall Mirror Image needs a lot of work to be useful. I've skipped making suggestions in the hopes people can do so below.

___Archon___

Obviously one of the most used skills as the Archon wizards are one of the only two viable builds and are cheaper to equip than CM wizards. That said, you all know the nerf is coming. Blizzard has said they never wanted infinite Archon wizards (or infinite Wrath barbs). The idea is to make the Archon a fun "save me" button that makes you feel epic for a brief period of time, not kinda-sorta epic all the time.

So the big change I am suggesting is to have Archon also boost damage (in addition to armor and resistances) by 40% (or more, if necessary) but to remove the increase in duration for every enemy killed. Yeah, I know, that won't be a popular decision but inifinite Archon needs to stop if other builds are to be considered. And I say this as a PL 72 archon wizard. The damage boost needs to be significant so you feel absolutely epic for 15 seconds but then you have to rely on your normal build for a while before you can Archon again.

This massive change would suggest a few rune changes are necessary.

Teleport

Since you will only be in Archon form for 15 seconds, having a 10 second cooldown on teleport makes little sense. Change the cooldown to 1 second and this becomes the defensive Archon rune choice.

Slow time

Again with the capped 15 second duration, just have this rune permanently surround the Archon with the moving slow time bubble.

Passives
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Some of the passives are very useful, others not so much. They require less tweaking than the active skills but a few suggestions are made here. And of course there the looming problem with Critical Mass that has to be addressed.

Power Hungry

I actually think the usefulness of this passive is underappreciated. A simple boost would be an increase in pick-up radius, since a wizard taking this obviously wants to grab health globes, but with Paragon 2.0 letting you boost that anyway, I'm not sure that would be a good change. Additionally in group play it is hard to keep others from grabbing your health globes so maybe this should fire even if other people grab a globe.

Illusionist

On paper this is an excellent defensive passive. In practice I've died in HC before and had this not proc. Maybe if it triggerd on damage taken before armor / resistances (with a higher activation percentage) would make it more consistent and reliable.

Paralysis

The desciption says up to 8% but when I've experimented with it is seems like 0.08%--I rarely see Paralysis fire. Given all the lightning based signature spells, it would be nice to see this actually fire once and a while.

Galvanizing Ward

As with Vigoron, the life per second would be more attractive if it scaled with max health.

Critical Mass

I'm not going to be popular but the fix here is relatively straight forward. Instead of reducing cooldowns by 1 second, Critical Mass could reduce the remaining cooldowns on all spells by a fixed percent. That way it has the desired thematic effect--CM makes spells with a cooldown usable more often--but it is self limiting and doesn't let you infinitely casts spells that were never designed to be spammed.

This may seem harsh but as long as a CM wizard has infinite life (because of spammed Diamond Skin) and infinite crowd control (because of spammed Frost Nova) it is going to be very hard for any other build to compete.

Unstable Anomaly

This is more of a hardcore concern but I personally feel that all the life saving passives need to go. Their existance essentially makes it so hardcore characters only have two passive slots because you are forced to take Unstable Anomaly as your third passive. Sure it only fires once in a blue moon but when it does it can save you hundreds of hours of playtime so it is basically required. That's the opposite of promoting build diversity.

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Blizzard is definitely taking a second look at existing skills and build diverstiy. And they've shown in the past to be open to player ideas. This is our chance to get ideas out there that might spark some internal discussion at Blizzard.

Well if you made it to the end I'm really hopeful we can get a good discussion going. I'm sure not all of the above suggestion will be popular and people will have better ideas. So let's hear them.

Quote from elvy

No problem with some stat sticks here, if you only have build changers then the original skills will end up pretty meaningless after all. But the item in question was marketed as a 'build changer'. Apples and oranges.

It's not really "apples and oranges."

As DoomSlayers (and others) pointed out, they could have a set of 2, 3, or 4 legendaries that all effect hydra and synergize together and the wand, while not "build changing" on its own, allowing you to "proc" some hydras, really makes the set better. That would be the ultimate in "build-changing" items, wouldn't it? An item that is a stat stick on its own, but that has some kind of special ability that synergizes with other items such that you might want to collect the unofficial "hydra set" to really make your build shine, each piece contributing a part towards that goal.

I realize that the Diablo community thrives on Chicken Little Syndrome... but come on. The sky is not falling. We have data on two legendaries out of.... 200+?

It's certainly valid to pose the question "HOW is this supposed to be build-chaning, Josh?" (and I think you might even get some kind of blue dialogue on that). But for some people to have already declared Loot 2.0 to be a failure, that's ridiculous, arrogant, and just douchey. Sadly that's par for the course anymore.

To start off the idea I'm about to present is one I've gotten from a game called Terraria. In this game you have your armor that actually benefits you then a separate set of armor that only effects the visuals. I feel like this could easily be implemented into diablo with a tab under your inventory where you can equip your aesthetic only gear. For example you could be wearing a Mempo and not like the look but mayb you love the way the full set of i63 armor looks and equip that full set instead with your choice of dyes on them.

If I had more time I would photoshop an image to give you a visual on how I imagine this working but for all of you who've played diablo 2 imagine it being like weapon switching, or switching stash tabs except with gear that only effects the way you look. Maybe not implementing this on weapons themselves because making a sword look like a spear just seems kind of "off".

Disclaimer: I did no research to see if any ideas like this have been thrown around before but I haven't come across any and if somebody has posted on this before they deserve all credit.

Quote from Aranoch

So I hate comparing games to other games because there's always two responses.
A. This isn't ____ ! If you like it so much go play it type attitude or..
B. Diablo 3 sucks that game is so much better / That's what Diablo 3 should have been.

So to clear the air before hand I love Diablo 3. Its amazing and I like it more than Path Of Exile (Which is also a great game) but It would still be cool if they used the same basic or altered idea to fit their needs with weapon, armor skins and skill skins like they use in their microtransaction style shop thing. I really like that idea of not only using a cool looking skill but changing the color or giving your helmet a cool spiritual aura, a halo, demon horns, or make your monks wave of light go from a bell to a boulder dropping down would be amazing and it alone would add tons of customization and with the creative juices blizzard has the potential for some incredible and widely varying skins. Although I can see this being a much more intricate process to actually get into the game.

EDIT: Added the above quote from a more recent comment with another customization idea.

the design end, to get the uniqueness into Legendary items of how items should be since 1.0.4.
Here are just a few.
































plz post any ideas of the actual garbage legendarys to make improvements.

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Desync is an issue? Don't you see the beta tag? Itemization/Maps are bad? Don't you see the beta tag? To me the game is out of beta at this point and it is just a formality. Closed Beta was nothing more than than an Open Beta with a $10 opt in fee. PoE is going to be in beta as long as they can get away with it.

They also need to release content on a weekly basis to keep up people buying their micro transactions/creating unique because that is what funds the game. If they stopped releasing stuff that made people want to create a new character then they wouldn't have a player base to fund their game any longer.

And truthfully both games are just as bad as the other in terms of response time from devs and it isn't either one of their faults. Every time the community starts to complain they can't just make rash decisions that alter game play without understanding the changes that they are making beforehand. Both games have very complex systems at the core, so it takes a lot of time to understand the issue, figure out a solution and incorporate it all together then package all the changes in nice little patch notes that the users can easily read. Versioning is NOT an easy task by any means.

Guaranteed that the same people who complain about response time would be the first people to bitch, "Man don't they test things?" if they rolled out quick fixes that introduced even more bugs.

Hello everyone,

This is my first post here, and I hope it will be helpful for DH community.
I can see that majority of DH players are really upset with current status of DH between other classes. Partially its like that because of the lack of good high end builds which could be so relaxing as WW builds for barbarian. This was a problem for me as well. But not anymore

Let me present my own build which I called "Hot Bubble", it works perfectly for high MP's especially for MP10.
What it is really interesting about this build, is the fact that it works very well for upper medium gear (like mine:
230k DPS
400 AllRes (Perfectionist passive effect included)
49k HP (Perfectionist passive effect included)

I tested several other builds but this one is the simply good. MP10 without any sweat, including elites. With even better resistances I wouldn't expect to die in any situation.
Here you have:
- link to this build: http://eu.battle.net...keYg!Xef!ZaccbY
- link to short example movie on youtube (elites with chains affix situation) - New movie with some background noise

How it works
- whole idea of it bases on assumption that discipline regen is so fast that you're always in Gloom during the fight and therefore you can stand still during any fight!
- your protection is not limited to Gloom, Sentry skill with Guardian Turret rune offers another layer of protection which allows you to survive easily almost everything
- high discipline regen is based on Cluster Grenades and Shuriken Cloud crit hits accumulated by Night Stalker passive.
- additionally this definitely tankish build gets a lot of DPS from Caltrops with Jagged Spikes when your toon is surrounded with mobs (usually all of the time), and also Caltrops are very usefull as a slowing tool against Fallen Maniacs
- main DPS source is of course Spike Traps with Echoing Blast rune

When it comes for the passives, I'm pretty sure that some better geared people could exchange Perfectionist passive for something more useful.

There's plenty of room for alternate builds but as for me this one works best.