Quote from Umpa
A lot of the people complaining about not having competitive pvp are "competitive gamers".
To me, a competitive gamer is a person who cannot play a game unless it involves competing with others. I know a guy like this. This person literally doesn't enjoy ANY game, unless it is "winning" at something with a defined score and opponent to defeat. The term win does not include beating a game. I'm talking about the guy who only plays games with a singular goal of winning.
Opinion: These people completely miss the point of video games in the first place. They garner some misplaced e-peen pride from winning in-game, while completely failing or avoiding their lives. They crave this sense of self worth via a video game. If there is no such goal, the game is useless to them.
Because of this, they do not actually enjoy the game. They take no time to appreciate the game itself. They take pleasure in one thing and one thing only. Winning.
These people are not gamers by my personal standards. They're just people with unfulfilled dreams that they make up for, via winning in video games.
From personal experience: They are rude, with no sense of sportsmanship(aka don't say gg when they lose and boast and gloat and antagonize when they win), and very trolly.
However, I'm not saying that everyone who wants PVP is among this crowd. But they are certainly a part of the driving force behind it.
Edit: Also, there is NOTHING wrong with competing via video games. I'm not saying that. I certainly have my own fair share of e-peen when it comes to some games like Halo and Wc3(sc2? ehh not so much). And we all know that competing is incredibly fun. It's the driving force behind online gaming which is so crucial to our ever evolving community of gamers. However, if competing is your only enjoyment..well..you read the thread.
I was confused having read this, and here's why- you:
-pretty much categorized most people who enjoy pvp into one category
-made insinuations based off of (what I can only guess to be) what you've experienced to be the truth as an individual, personally concerning said category of players
-those insinuations may/may not belong in a post talking about how players take the game too serious/personally, as they contain rants which an average man would read and see as "insulting"
-you end the post saying that competition/pvp has its place (is a driving force) and that you yourself have enjoyed the competition and have experienced e-peen yourself
I guess my point is you're trying to be in the right by agreeing with the masses, but in doing so you're contradicting yourself and appearing somewhat hypocritical and thus nonsensical, not that you're alone in doing so as I myself have been known to contradict myself time from time. But aren't you kinda just falling into the category of people who take the game too seriously/are too competitive by trying to make correlations between in game preference and peoples' actual lives, which are all incredibly complex and different?
Putting the drama aside, in the end a video game is just another source of entertainment. It may operate differently with our psyches than say watching a movie/tv, but nothing can change the fact that playing a game is just drowning yourself in another form of entertainment for one reason or another, whether you randomly got addicted to video games, to releasing chemicals the entertainment makes you feel and putting the game down, or for the reasons you mentioned.
Whether this is good or bad, who really cares. In the end if you really want to hate on any part of the community I suggest we point the finger at ourselves because in reality we could all be doing something better with our time than watch tv or play a game.
And let's say you were right about competitive people. Is there something wrong with that? Seriously, what's wrong about being competitive, especially as a male? If you aren't competitive as a person and stand up for yourself and what you believe in you're basically just giving away your either(or all)individuality, pride, purpose, rights, etc.
In terms of enjoying the game for what it is, I'm right there with you. I will approach diablo 3 the same way I approach any game, and do whatever I want/can so that it's enjoyable for me, and that's all there is to it. Can you really ask more from players of a video game, without sounding too serious/egotistical yourself?