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They kept playing because they had a farmville type genre preference and no better games were on the market/they didn't want to change. I'll agree that diablo 2 was a great game in its day and age but it's something I have only been able to bring myself to play to experience people's modded versions of the game (MXL mainly) and even those got boring after a few weeks after I finished clearing the ubers, because as amazing as my gear and charms became there was no way to "use" them other than by killing crap I had already been able to clear multiple times because the pvp/community was unranked, small and thus insignificant.

After Jay went through the trouble saying they would never balance pvm around pvp, it was my impression that they'd make the pvm play through kick ass, even better than that of wow, which did both pve and pvp well, with a thriving end game that keeps players paying years after their characters reach the initial max level, max gear, and max skill cap.


I'm glad that inferno exists (instead of farming specific bosses in hell), but only very, very slightly. I'll be forced to play through the same content over and over without a purpose/reason. What's the point of having the best gear in a PvM game if I can already beat all the content....

Let me put this short and simple so that everyone can understand.


Content that was already in hell mode was taken from hell mode and slapped into a fourth difficulty. The only difference from this difficulty and the other 3 leveling grind difficulties of the game is, yup you guessed it, you're no longer leveling and it's slightly more difficult and less rewarding, in that you tediously now have to play through (basically) the same content over, and over, and over, and over. In other words, if Inferno didn't exist then bosses/areas in hell would have been the end game.



Comparing diablo 3 to wow is fine by me, as wow was one of the models influencing the game, as a huge blizzard RPG title/learning experience. Wow did it right. Once you played through the game (The Leveling Content) you then could enter into the endgame, or the new areas of the game that actually mattered like heroic and new dungeons constantly, new raids, new boss firsts, and most importantly (but not mentioned enough) PvP.


PvP is a huge source of end game content that is being nearly completely brushed aside, and I feel that it's unfortunate giving everything else I bothered mentioning in this post. At least it will be in the game, but it's not facilitated by blizzard making it more of an afterthought and slap in the face for the people who have enjoyed the competitiveness and replayability of the last 7 or so years of blizzard titles.

Yeah, well I think the mentality behind that is they just assume the player will measure the amount of time it actually takes to unlock entire games grinding e-currency in other f2p's compared to the amount of time it takes mowing someone's lawn or working a few hours of even minimum wage and came to the conclusion: The core game is free to play. People can test the waters for what they are, and then decide whether or not they want to buy it.

Also I found the bottom of your sig rather humorous/true, PhD. Orc shoulderpads ftw.

Anyway, to set expectations straight, beta in August is unlikely. But it shouldn't be too long after.

In other words we're *probably* looking at a September beta, though it could come in august (wink wink not, please stay tuned hyped up fan base)

Let's be honest with ourselves. Was there any chance diablo wouldn't be an end-all boss at least during one point in d3/expansions.

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I don't know. I am aware of the blue post, but didn't really take it as a fact that act 4 would have diablo in it as the boss and end boss of D3.

I would still hold on the my guess that diablo will be held back till expansions for a boss fight. But if he returns in D3 already, fine. maybe as a weaker voldemort type who needs somehting to gain his powers back.

I just dont see him dead again already in the first release.

The game is called Diablo 3, people expect to see Diablo as a boss and not expansion boss.

But you'd never know that if you came from wow

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I downloaded and tried to log in late last night... seems there's an issue with my "games for windows live", however. Sometimes it asked me for a cd-key (wtf?) then for a payment method.

Not trying to be a total d1ck or anything but I just downloaded it, made my windows live account, changed the name to K0dachi and jumped right into the game and am playing right now, but I gotta head out soon. Bugs may or may not have been fixed might wanna try it again.



edit: Sorry about not putting this in the right place. With all the branching off in forums and whatnot I didn't see the "other games, diablo etcyadayada"

And it looks pretty cool hah. Just looking around the ui and the options you can control everything from how the camera responds (in scroll speed and min-to-max scroll speed), hotkeys... you can change the way your town looks by repositioning/turning buildings and ultimately buy building blueprints. It's like age of empires but it has a little mmo style grind to it (ugh ;X) and some RPG specialization (economy/military/utility trees) aside from which items you can hold or whatever, and in the end is played like normal RTS style age of empires if you want, and more.

Can't wait to dig more into this later this evening. May be the perfect time sink until d3.

Alright so one of the first video games I ever played (and loved) Age Of Empires has a new title : Online. It will be free to play but the more you get into it, the more you'll be forced (or want) to buy content, or put up with being at a disadvantage, with less customization, and fewer options. I'm sure a lot of people were completely aware of the beta/launch (16th) and others are completely foreign to AOE entirely but work with me here.

If I understand it, it will basically play out like this:

-You start out by naming your capitol. That capitol is like your "character" in an rpg, in that you do quests (with/without friends) in pvp, solo training/achievement style, and by doing this you get points or items or resources to spend improving your capitol city making it more and more vast. Some examples of this are you apparently have an "inventory" which you can store items on to improve the equipment of your troops, as well as just cosmetic things you can buy/unlock to make you city look cooler and whatnot. You connect to the web and can chat/trade items with people through windows - live. I'm not familiar with the system myself but being bombarded by trade spam (necessary or not) is one of those things we all loved to hate from back in diablo 2. Moving on

-There are different things you do in the game, from kind of a "survival" booster pack (I *believe) to the classic RTS style, to base building missions, or wow quest-like missions. If you are free to play you don't get to choose a lot of the parameters of pvp and are kinda forced into the que and find your opponent -only- style. If you buy certain content you can pvp with specific people and set more parameters.

Instead of continually flooding you with details I'm not positive about, feel free to look at Total Biscuits First Impressions on AOEo , or just check out the official page http://ageofempiresonline.com/ and branch off from there.


Hope this type of post is allowed, what are your thoughts?

Yeah but in Diablo 2 (SPOILER lewl)

Diablo was the final boss, and then they released an expansion that added another act and made Baal the final d2 boss.


I think after we kill diablo, we need to find out why these prime evils keep coming back time after time. Fairly positive it's going to be linked back to mankind/angels somehow, or ... something .....in the expansion.

Waiting for the expansion where we find out the 3 prime terrors were actually only rampaging around so freely because they made an agreement with the heavens to seal away faceless(the undead angel of death or something), the power under which hell was united(whereas otherwise it's a region ruled by chaos) and threatening the death of all living things good and bad.


One can dream.

How should I say this?

I am interested. My credentials are in my signature, from armory pages, to some of the pvp videos I've made, to my masters SC2 profile. I don't want to commit to anything just yet, is the tag you're going with "PvP anti guild"? Cause if so I might not be as interested haha. My focus will be to enjoy the game, pve and pvp. There will be no leaderboards but I imagine players will communicate and collaborate to figure out who's on top eventually, so I'll enjoy the game leveling up my dudes with a pvp build/strategy in mind while I feel out the game with each character.

Haven't chosen a character either. I've played all types in wow and made many of each in diablo 2 95+ and didn't really have a favorite (ok sorceress was a beast, but teleport imba O.o :]) So we'll see. I'd like to focus on/ play the character with the highest skill cap though.

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Well since it has no competitive base they might as well release things like that and free for all and just tell players it's not being balanced.

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Hahaha so true