The necro still overshines the other RG killers. And despite their post, i think this is just because of $$.
We had a nice competition between DH and Wizard last season.
This season its necro all way, i am fine with that. But when the innarius bugs (skeletton hit mechanig etc.) do not exist anymore
the necro will even be stronger. The main problem is this infinite, stricken-like damage increasing necro item that should not exist imo.
And it already cleared 132 in its current version...
If they would scale it down a little bit to have a competition for the RG killer again, that would be nice, but won't happen 
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It is really a shame that the dh and the cruisader are not in the meta since over 1 year.
There are some people who do not want to play "offchar" to level up gems/paragons.
They should at least somehow make it possible that each class can be in a 4 man team. E.g. introduce a set that 1 member can use, that helps the team
in some way that is not class dependent. well i think this sounds boring too...dunno.
But isn't this what pushes people away? That nothing changes from season to season since nearly a year?
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Hey folks,
at the moment i have no time to test things on the ptr due to finishing my phd thesis,
but since there are almost no threads i hope to get some information on the buffs of the sets and its usefulness.
From the first look, blizzard just wanted to make the most (in most cases) useless sets a little bit more powerfull by just increasing the % numbers,
which is, imo, a good idea because
a) they do not have much time for testing left (we know from last couple of years, that they won't work half of december).
So in theory from what i think is that the sets still are not really valid but more close than before. But this is just theory and could completely be wrong.
It would be nice if the few testers left here could share some experiences.
Best wishes
Specki
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Guess he is a botter. Otherwise it does not make sense, that he cannot understand this...
I think blizzard already kicked some botters nonseason a year ago or so. But i think it is right to first clear the leaderboards in seasons and then focus on nonseason. And with their 3 man team that is offered by blizzard, i dunno if that will happen. Also they might still be afraid of false positives, because i know the forums were full of discussions of people complaining they didnt do anyting and still were detected by the warden.
But this are just some speculations...
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I am also frustrated. Why was adressed almost in each post here.. :D.
But i think the idea of challenger rifts while leaving the paragon system as it is, is somewhat good.
Dont get me wrong the system isnt good. But it would be a ton of work to rework everything ( they clearly do not have the manpower (I think the higher devs said something like "prepare cool stuff for blizzcon" and nobody had even time for the balance patches) but having this the few grinders that still exist can still be
better (sure just because of paragon, but what else is there) and at the same time a competition without paragonlevels / items can have a place.
It depends on how much fun these challenger rifts are.
I think the biggest problem is that they let build up such a hype about a new expansion or a new game (why not posting "sorry wont happen this year but we still have stuff"), so everyone HAD to be disappointed.
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And again, thx! Last season it was pretty useful.
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It took me like 20 sec t start to like this song. Nice lyrics, props!
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does anyone have the exact numbers how much gold it costs to level all 3 artisans to 12?
I did some test runs 1-70 solo wd by xp-chains in FoM. 2-2:30 h and now i want to test how much time i need to get the gold via rifts or bounties but i need the values :D. For first headrigs gift. thx in advance.
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Smartphone here... so first. In team by killing kulle, doiing agony lvl 3 you shoul beclvl 7 in about 7 minutes. Ibrecommend sending the dh alone when she has preparation, vault etc. By far thecfastest char to get crown. But this can all be sen in the famous guides also.. ^^. If you want to go t1, like lvl 45ish is mb the right time since u have the lvl h60 weapon. at least we did this last season w our group but itemluck can also play a role there.
One thing bagstone also mentioned (sry for mas quoting him but he is everywhere;) ) is that you should not get the crown 2cearly because of low stats at low level. Meaning something in between 20-30?! I usually getcit at 23 or so.
We had a rub vs a team that did a mistake and didnt get the crown. The difference was quite large. Esecially after lvl 60.
As for the cain and borns set. The bounty is doke split. This takes 5 mins and handing in the bounties also gives xp. Its not that large of a time loss. Ai think the post above me mentioned the worst scenario for the drop.. usually 2 should have one set mb. Just decide on the fly when it is better to change gear because of damage etc. . Well i hope this is not too much semi knowledge from me... gl!
e2: Thank you fst_d3 for this sheet!
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If you speak of solo the bounties take too much time while leveling imo. Your are slow the paths are long and act 5 monsters are meh.
Wht they do is just do fields of misery over and over and rehost and do some of the bosses needed for items or mb journey.
For the teamgame i also would reccomend doing bounties. You do it anyways for 1 act at level 23ish because of xp sets like cain (which can be done but isnt a must i guess) so doing 3 more acts with 4 people shouldnt take as long.
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As highqtest mentioned solo is rly the fastest. Desolacer did it already in a testrun in 1:53 h. But this is for the WD which is basically made for massacre boni :D. You could implement some journey parts in the leveling process but some are done automatically, and some are done automatically. But i just meant generally knowing them and testing when you are able to do which journey (damage wise). I will also do some testing in the next days but i think there are people who have already done it. so maybe lets wait for some reliable guys to post here ;D.
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Before i go on i want to remind you: if leveling takes 2 or 4 hours is not important compared to what happens after! So just take leveling very fast serious when you have fun in optimizing it! I also feel like preparing the journey management is as important for saving time (Bagstone has done a great table for this which can be found in another thread (sry too lazy for links).
The time really depends on your knowledge about how to level. If you take it slowly and just do rifts it should take 3-4 hours.
Two seasons ago i did it with 2 random people in a 3 man group. It took us 3:40 hours. Until level 20 we followed the drahque guide and then just did rifts and got really bad luck with the -lvl rolls.
The season after this we took it a bit more serious (if you wanna do so to follow drahques ultimate leveling guide,part 1-70 (easy to find in google) and it took us like 2:50 which is fine but not competitive and just saved us an hour. I guess the record still is like 2:19 (10for seasonstart (drahques group, is of course much lower when you often do it and have much luck).
okay this was a bit much blabla short:
So for a 3 men group you should aim something like 3:30 - 4:00 if you are "casual". You can easily do it 1 hour faster by a bit testing and then.
And you can still use the same leveling guides as for the last 2 seasons.
Correct me if anything is wrong ^^.
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Pls guys, we are one community. Ofc the same rank in season is always better than ns. And i personally have no interest in ns. But the community is so small, we gotta stay on the same side. If someone does 97 with eq. Ns it still deserves some prop, while he should mention in title that its ns.
But pls stop flaming each other for playing one or the other randomly.
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It is hard to implement new terms but Solmyr77 is right. Casuals are normally refered to as players who lack in knowledge about the game and play for "fun". We also play for fun but with something competitional in mind. We would be embarassed not being able to get into the leaderboards with whatever time we invest and we follow the scene, the ladderstatistics and discuss about builds, etc. . Imo that is per definition of the word not "casual".
Maybe something like
Casual
Intermediate
High end
would work. But who would use this? It will just be high end or casual
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Ah thanks, very nice