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Inferno Hardcore.

Achievements galore in Inferno I bet.

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They mentioned nicer drops, but I wonder if that is still going to follow the linear progression of stats we will expect from lvl 1-60 or if indeed it has to be accelerated to compensate for the lack of new skills after max level.

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Not sure if this has been posted already but here, enjoy:

http://www.videogame...escom_2011.html

Old video. The DH has mana and the talisman. Is it really from gamescome 2011?

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Alright, so your main point against the skill system (that other people have because you like it) is that it destroys character building.

I will counter argue with two points.

The first is that there is still character building. The only difference is that you do not have to plan out your whole build before you even start your character. Having to do so before hand is very unfriendly for new comers. They don't know what they will and will not need. Instead, what D3 has done is let you build your character while playing. This is much more user friendly and forgiving if you mess up. You won't have to restart your whole character because of one bad choice. In my opinion, getting to build your character while playing is much more fun than sitting in front of a wiki for hours planning it out on paper.

I do understand that some people like to pre-plan. To this, I say that this also helps with character building. I know I want a summon wd. I'm going to look forward to those levels that unlock the spells I planned to use for this build. Again I am building the character while I play even with pre-planning.

Your logic is totally biased towards a game that does not evolve charactr building. Just to begin with, theres no "right" and "wrong" in a role playing universe. Theres no mistakes. You just play your character the way you want, it doiesn't matter if he is weak or strong (as long as you're able to finish the game).

For exemple, daggerzons are weak characters but i passed a good amount of time playing one. Why ? Because it's fun and i liked the idea of playing an amazon that huntdown stuff using an dagger.

Cleary the Diablo fanbase has changed A LOT since D1 and early D2. People were not concerned about "balance" or being strong or weak. They just wanted to play the game with an character their felt good with. lol Noone passed hours on wiki because it wasn't needed. Who passes hours on wikis before make an baldur's gate character ? Will people pass hours on wiki before they creat their Skyrim toons ? Obviously no.
D3 public changed a lot. They see Diablo as an mmorpg were min/max is more important then role playing. Actually majority of people think role player cannot exist in an game like Diablo (rofl). Character building is something that only exist in the role playing context (i think what you're calling character building is what people from rpgfans usually calls min/max). And everyone knows that roleplaying (thous character building) can only exist with permanent choices.

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As always your podcast is appreciated but it seems that you guys forget the most important thing, your gameplay experience. I know you guys said something but it's too general and not much specific on it. It's too much topic oriented. Give us some deep preview of your experience. With all the bashing, rages etc. give us something new to hear. Because some of us actually cares about how the game plays

From everything they have said, there is little that is different in terms of gameplay from the Blizzcon 2010 build. There really isn't much for them to tell about other than what has changed, which is what they are focusing on.

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@critter - I think a big problem people are having with this concept is that they are thinking every player will be upgrading all of there gear to the next tier level at once and then keeping that until the next tier level is available. This just isn't the case in diablo because of the random attributes. Think of it more like:
Act 1 normal - tiers 1-3 are viable
Act 2 normal - tiers 2-4 are viable
Act 3 normal - tiers 3-5 are viable
Act 4 normal - tiers 4-7 are viable
Act 1 nightmare - tiers 4-8 are viable
Act 2 nightmare - tiers 5-9 are viable
Act 3 nightmare - tiers 5-10 are viable
Act 4 nightmare - tiers 6-12 are viable
Act 1 hell - tiers 7-13 are viable
Act 2 hell - tiers 8-14 are viable
Act 3 hell - tiers 9-16 are viable
Act 4 hell - tiers 10-18 are viable

Really, there's a good chance that 3-10 different tiers types might be useable based on the random stats attributed to them. As mentioned in the cast, I used a nightmare act 1 weapon all the way through act v he'll because of the great stats on it. So it's very possible that gear will still flucuate a lot through the acts with different tiers.

@crusader - given the break down I gave is somewhat accurate, my point is that they need less new tiers available at end game because more overall tiers are possible by that point. If the first 7-8 tiers are available by normal, that gives you a good mix to start the game with. Also, given my breakdown, that still leaves approximately 8 tiers of gear you may find and equip through playing hell. Overall the progress just needs to be quicker at the beginning to keep you going. The same way the level progression is 1-30 on normal, 31-50 on nightmare, and 51-60 on hell. But there will still be more gear options at end game.

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Monk all the way... my personal class order will most likely be
Monk
Demon Hunter
Barbarian
Wizard
Witch Doctor

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I am very, very sad because they gave up on Paladin. He was my #1 choice.
My brother and I play Diablo very often via LAN, and we are both focused on melee combat because it gives us edge of facing demon hordes eye-to-eye, it is more tense, more "personal" , hehehe. He always plays Barbarian, as a main fighter force, and me as his fighter/support companion (besides, i always liked knights in shiny armor whose purpose was to protect innocent lives from evil,hehe)
Now, I don't know... I am not saying that the monk is bad, but, for me, he just doesn't fit in Sanctuary, like a character from the "wrong book", know what i mean?
...It seems that now, there's gonna be 2 barbarian at the same time

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I'm not too thrilled about having Blizzard adventuring to consoles overall. It usually has some kind of impact on the game, which can affect the game negatively. Often it just feels like they are developing with the consoles in mind rather than PCs because of their more "limited" hardware, if you will.

As for D3 I didn't think they would actually begin making a crossover to consoles this late in development. Yet, who says that haven't been working/preparing for it for a long time..

In short, I'm not convinced.