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Quote from Yngvar

The separation of PvE and PvP will probably upset some people, but I have to admit I love it. I do hope, though, that the PvP enthusiasts will get some more room to play around in. The arena I've seen so far seems a bit small. Especially if the character movement speed will be increased by any considerable amount.

I thought it seemed small at first too, but the reality is you don't want to spend minutes trying to find your opponent. D3 isn't going to be a game of complex preparation tactics - you have to just jump into the fray, and I think that's the message they are trying to keep with small arenas. Even in that small space, it felt like there was plenty of maneuverability for those who were skilled at it. I got kited around many times trying to chase down Wizards

Quote from johnnysd

10. I am not sold still on the health ord thing

I just think this is something that is going to be very hard to perfect. I don't know if there's some AI director thing going on here, but it would be nice if they dropped more intelligently. I found the frequency to be annoying at times especially since they get consumed even if you're at full hp, but then don't drop when you could really use them.

Regarding categories for these pages, should we have it setup like this:

• Monsters ->
• Diablo II Monsters ->
• (Abominable, Baboon Demon, Bat Demon, etc)
• Diablo II Super Unique Monsters ->
• (Blood Raven, Coldcrow, Rakanishu, etc)

Quote from PhrozenDragon

For a total of +3 for Hell? Otherwise Treehead doesn't follow that formula.

Tested it a few times, it's not cumulative. He will have 3 minions in NM, and 4 in Hell.

I feel like the Rune Drop information should be rolled up into the table.

(Btw regarding minions, it looks like it's just taking the range as a base number (MinGrp/MaxGrp in SuperUniques.txt) and adding +1 for NM and +2 for Hell)

Quote from Sixen

EDIT: Also, can we get a transparent bg on the Lightning Spire and Reziarfg? As far as Reziarfg goes, is it safe to assume that "Stygian Beast" is a Stygian Fury? ... In which case we can setup a redirect from the Beast page to the Fury page.

The image of Reziarfg was probably pulled off the Arreat Summit - if it's in the data files it's well hidden. I highly doubt they bothered to model it since it was a joke after all. So it's a hack job, but I removed the black.

The "Stygian Beast" was mentioned in the lore about Reziarfg; I think this is different than "Stygian Fury". I don't know if that is enough to merit it's own page, but all we know about the "Stygian Beast" is what's mentioned in that joke.

We should be all caught up on Super Unique images now. I also threw in the ones that have been removed in previous patches in case we want to put those into an easter egg or trivia section.

I would leave out the minion row since the page is focused on the Super Unique it's a little confusing to see more than one monster. It should be sufficient to just mention the number per difficulty.

I think we should just make it into a list with image and name, as is done on Monsters (Diablo II), perhaps move the super uniques from there to the Super Unique page

Also similar to how AS has them. I'm a fan of that simple setup.

Initially I thought it might be nice to have each super unique get their own page, but after reading this thread I'm beginning to see a more condensed approach. Probably what makes the most sense is dividing up the SU's into major and minor ones as Phrozen put it - major being if:

- bosses (Diablo, Baal)
- they are quest related (Blood Raven, High Council)
- encountered on the path of a quest (Bloodwitch the Wild, Coldworm the Burrower)

some players will never see certain SU's in their game progression and can be placed in a table as such, but ones they will see repeatedly I think deserve their own page even if they are cosmetic. For example meeting Coldworm the Burrower would compel me to check if there was anything else important about this SU since it's close to a quest milestone.

We should definitely break up the table into acts (a la Arreat Summit) otherwise we're looking at a gigantic table for one page.

SU's like Creeping Feature have some fun trivia that might get lost. Maybe place a trivia section at the end of each acts' tables?

Edit: or if on a single page, collapsing sections.